VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

[Nata4us]

No he didn't. Not only are you misquoting L&P's post, but not even the one he talks about the first sex on the Filthy route.

L&P has specifically mentioned swingers as a possibility, but no mention at all for hotwife.

Dylan is pretty much certainly not going to be first. His route is the slowest, having the disadvantage of being both male and incest. The women have the advantage in that sex with them is fairly innocuous. It's not like Sophia has to worry about getting pregnant. And as already been discussed, Dylan is likely to be the "climax" of Sophia's corruption, so as I've said, most likely to be last.

Whereas Ellie already has Sophia starting to masturbate in front of her, getting her wet, and frenching. Ellie also already knows Sophia loves oral. And Patricia is the one that Sophia has known the longest and trusts the most. As seen in the Yoga event, Patricia can get Sophia naked without her even thinking about it. Hence why I believe her to be second, mainly because Ellie has more opportunity.

The fact that a girl can be the first in sex with Sofia is undoubtedly, but I still want to find out which of the guys will be the first

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

will the new update come out in december?

definitely not before

I assume earlier than December, but it will be possible to judge for sure when L&P is determined with the number of renders for each event.

even if it decides the number of renders it will not be respected, so .....
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[Alley_Cat]

The fact that a girl can be the first in sex with Sofia is undoubtedly, but I still want to find out which of the guys will be the first

Then that would be Sam. Has the advantage of Sophia liking him (as opposed to say Aiden), and appeals to Sophia's weakness of rock musicians.

 

[Sabertooth__]

In order of who I think will get their chance with Sophia: Ellie, then Patricia, Sam and lastly Dylan. Somewhere in there Nathalie, as part of the GW Threesome. Possibly Cathy and Andy on the swingers route.

Those that aren't in the latest poll (Larry, Bennett, Tyler, Brayden, Kevin, Jason, Haru, Neil etc) are highly likely to not even get a chance to fuck Sophia, let alone be first.

Task #11 and 12 are school days, so it's unlikely Aiden will take Sophia somewhere to fuck her as one of the final tasks. And it's after playable day 19 anyway, so he's unlikely to be first.

About Aiden's task, day 19 is I guess task 8, even though the task can be moderately extreme it definitely won't be sex as most think. So as you say Aiden won't be the first guy. Since task 9 is where a difficult solution is there and no way is L&P going to let Sophia have sex with Aiden before that ( that is if he has even planned to let Aiden have sex with her). It could very well be possible that he doesn't because he mostly enjoys Humiliating her and establishing that he is in a dominat position.

Also since there is no way this game will have non consensual sex and Sophia voluntarily agreeing to have sex with her student, one that she detests and has been disgusted by is very unlikely.

Though another thing that we need consider is that the later tasks (10-12) could be such that even on school days Aiden would ask Sophia to meet in the evening or after school for her task,since the class environment can become very restricting.

 

[Bane71]

even if it decides the number of renders it will not be respected, so .....

Yes, I agree with you on this! Even if the number of renderers is determined, it can change their number during operation, and usually the change occurs in the direction of increasing them. This will undoubtedly lead to a later release of the update. But what can do? This is L&P.

 

[ancienregimele]

About Aiden's task, day 19 is I guess task 8, even though the task can be moderately extreme it definitely won't be sex as most think. So as you say Aiden won't be the first guy. Since task 9 is where a difficult solution is there and no way is L&P going to let Sophia have sex with Aiden before that ( that is if he has even planned to let Aiden have sex with her). It could very well be possible that he doesn't because he mostly enjoys Humiliating her and establishing that he is in a dominat position.

Also since there is no way this game will have non consensual sex and Sophia voluntarily agreeing to have sex with her student, one that she detests and has been disgusted by is very unlikely.

Though another thing that we need consider is that the later tasks (10-12) could be such that even on school days Aiden would ask Sophia to meet in the evening or after school for her task,since the class environment can become very restricting.

There's not much point in establishing a dominant position unless sex is the aim. Frustration is the outcome otherwise & what would be the point of all the tasks? We're talking here about a sexually active individual who's turned on by his teacher. I think the Aiden haters should take the first opportunity to leave the storyline but there'll be yet another get-out for those having second thoughts. L&P has voluntarily painted himself into a corner by saying there'll be no non-consensual sex. Now, that we have the likes of genuine shota present in the VN I fail to see why but he's the boss, so it's his decision. Presumably he finds the latter much less objectionable & controversial?

Up to now the balance of Sophia's trepidation, reluctance & enjoyment has, IMO, been just right. This is where L&P has shown his capacity to write to a good standard, incorporating actual eroticism. He also achieved this level with the Alyssa/Antonio & even the prison visit events IMO. They were the sort of happenings that keep me playing.

It's the question of how far Sophia will enjoy, co-operate or instigate the tasks that concerns me. I really don't want to go down the route of, 'Oh Ares, you're so big & hard, what are you doing....that's naughty,' 'Why can't I stop myself when I know this is so wrong?' 'It's as tho' I'm someone else...' etc. This is not only cliched, it's just not erotic. It's been overdone to the point where it's like a slice of burnt toast served cold, without butter or margarine. This is what I suspect is coming, once Sophia has been "corrupted" enough by working through the tasks.

This is why I'm taking action early to try to break the AWAM habit. It's either blackmail, or it's not. There's no real middle way.
Alternatively, I might just take the Morello option & see what happens.....

 

[Old Dog]

Is there even any word on if we'll see Christine again? There are plenty of details about her that hints at what could be really hot content, like the fact Ellie knows she has heart-shaped pubes. And that her and Ellie go to the same gym that Vicky and Ryan work at.

I've heard that Elena was only there for the scene with Ellie and Jules, but haven't heard anything about Melanie.

I will see what I can find out for you

 

[Old Dog]

Is there even any word on if we'll see Christine again? There are plenty of details about her that hints at what could be really hot content, like the fact Ellie knows she has heart-shaped pubes. And that her and Ellie go to the same gym that Vicky and Ryan work at.

I've heard that Elena was only there for the scene with Ellie and Jules, but haven't heard anything about Melanie.

Christine was the one that the Pygmy Norris was interested in?

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

Even if they have a sister, doesn't mean they will look at her in a sexual way. Plus the sister also has the same upbringing as the kids. Now that she lives outside her understanding definitely must have improved.
It isn't about being childish, they behave the way they do because they don't know anything about this topic but find it really fascinating. The curiosity takes over and they aren't all that old either. They just got a little mature a year or two ago, so curiosity regressing them a little bit isn't something weird. Also they are in the presence of an woman far older and knowledgeable than them plus their teacher. They wouldn't want to act all rash Infront of her.

NAh, I did not accept any of the dialogue or narrative. It was contrived and horrible. He failed, face it. Worst he has done `cuz he was dancing around the subject. Gray's Anatomy!!! All Sophia (the experienced teacher) would have done is grab a copy and case closed. Worst case she grabs a cd of National Geographic from the 20's to 40's and case closed. This whole thrash he went through destroyed the 'class' concept he pushes and it was not just the narrative it was the distorted bodies he was trying to use to thread that needle. No amount of justification will get him out of the fact he earned the SHOTA tag. I did not do that F95 did.

 

[Old Dog]

About Aiden's task, day 19 is I guess task 8, even though the task can be moderately extreme it definitely won't be sex as most think. So as you say Aiden won't be the first guy. Since task 9 is where a difficult solution is there and no way is L&P going to let Sophia have sex with Aiden before that ( that is if he has even planned to let Aiden have sex with her). It could very well be possible that he doesn't because he mostly enjoys Humiliating her and establishing that he is in a dominat position.

Also since there is no way this game will have non consensual sex and Sophia voluntarily agreeing to have sex with her student, one that she detests and has been disgusted by is very unlikely.

Though another thing that we need consider is that the later tasks (10-12) could be such that even on school days Aiden would ask Sophia to meet in the evening or after school for her task,since the class environment can become very restricting.

I agree with you Sabertooth__ as aiden does seem to be more into Humiliating Sophia so we will probably get a sex act but full sex no.

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

Christine was the one that the Pygmy Norris was interested in?

No! Christine is a psychotic car that is gonna run the pygmy down!!! Sorry, just me wishing out loud.

 

[Old Dog]

No! Christine is a psychotic car that is gonna run the pygmy down!!!

YAY Happy days

 

[Alley_Cat]

There's not much point in establishing a dominant position unless sex is the aim. Frustration is the outcome otherwise & what would be the point of all the tasks? We're talking here about a sexually active individual who's turned on by his teacher. I think the Aiden haters should take the first opportunity to leave the storyline but there'll be yet another get-out for those having second thoughts. L&P has voluntarily painted himself into a corner by saying there'll be no non-consensual sex. Now, that we have the likes of genuine shota present in the VN I fail to see why but he's the boss, so it's his decision. Presumably he finds the latter much less objectionable & controversial?

Up to now the balance of Sophia's trepidation, reluctance & enjoyment has, IMO, been just right. This is where L&P has shown his capacity to write to a good standard, incorporating actual eroticism. He also achieved this level with the Alyssa/Antonio & even the prison visit events IMO. They were the sort of happenings that keep me playing.

It's the question of how far Sophia will enjoy, co-operate or instigate the tasks that concerns me. I really don't want to go down the route of, 'Oh Ares, you're so big & hard, what are you doing....that's naughty,' 'Why can't I stop myself when I know this is so wrong?' 'It's as tho' I'm someone else...' etc. This is not only cliched, it's just not erotic. It's been overdone to the point where it's like a slice of burnt toast served cold, without butter or margarine. This is what I suspect is coming, once Sophia has been "corrupted" enough by working through the tasks.

This is why I'm taking action early to try to break the AWAM habit. It's either blackmail, or it's not. There's no real middle way.
Alternatively, I might just take the Morello option & see what happens.....

The point of power is power. It doesn't matter how it is exercised, only that it is. That's why the tasks don't need to be extreme as we've been told they won't be. That Aiden can repeatedly tell Sophia what to do and her voluntarily do it is all the satisfaction he really needs. He already has Jennifer (likely at his beck and call), so the only real point of the tasks is to have power over an authority figure.

"Like a slice of burnt toast served cold, without butter or margarine" sounds a lot like how I describe the Aiden/Dylan route on occasion: like eating cardboard or packing peanuts.

Christine was the one that the Pygmy Norris was interested in?

"That Dylan is interested in" really doesn't narrow it down, considering that can include Sophia, Amber, Patricia, Marie, maybe Claire, Ellie, and perhaps now Emma. Christine is the blonde that goes to the beach with Ellie and Jules, with a star tattoo near her crotch.

 

[Old Dog]

The point of power is power. It doesn't matter how it is exercised, only that it is. That's why the tasks don't need to be extreme as we've been told they won't be. That Aiden can repeatedly tell Sophia what to do and her voluntarily do it is all the satisfaction he really needs. He already has Jennifer (likely at his beck and call), so the only real point of the tasks is to have power over an authority figure.

"Like a slice of burnt toast served cold, without butter or margarine" sounds a lot like how I describe the Aiden/Dylan route on occasion: like eating cardboard or packing peanuts.


"That Dylan is interested in" really doesn't narrow it down, considering that can include Sophia, Amber, Patricia, Marie, maybe Claire, Ellie, and perhaps now Emma. Christine is the blonde that goes to the beach with Ellie and Jules, with a star tattoo near her crotch.

OK.
Sophia/Ellie talked about Christine when they showered together and Sophia thought that Christine liked Pygmy but Ellie shot her down.Is that better?

 

[Alley_Cat]

OK.
Sophia/Ellie talked about Christine when they showered together and Sophia thought that Christine liked Pygmy but Ellie shot her down.Is that better?

And that it would be like Wonder Woman dating Mr Bean. Yep, that's Christine.

 

[Old Dog]

And that it would be like Wonder Woman dating Mr Bean. Yep, that's Christine.

I will try and find out for you when her next event is.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

Yes, I agree with you on this! Even if the number of renderers is determined, it can change their number during operation, and usually the change occurs in the direction of increasing them. This will undoubtedly lead to a later release of the update. But what can do? This is L&P.

in fact we can not do anything, but we should find a way to prevent users from writing every 3 pages: when does the next update come out?

 

[dolfe67]

The point of power is power. It doesn't matter how it is exercised, only that it is. That's why the tasks don't need to be extreme as we've been told they won't be. That Aiden can repeatedly tell Sophia what to do and her voluntarily do it is all the satisfaction he really needs. He already has Jennifer (likely at his beck and call), so the only real point of the tasks is to have power over an authority figure.

"Like a slice of burnt toast served cold, without butter or margarine" sounds a lot like how I describe the Aiden/Dylan route on occasion: like eating cardboard or packing peanuts.

Well said, domination is not always self sexual pleasure

 

[Sabertooth__]

NAh, I did not accept any of the dialogue or narrative. It was contrived and horrible. He failed, face it. Worst he has done `cuz he was dancing around the subject. Gray's Anatomy!!! All Sophia (the experienced teacher) would have done is grab a copy and case closed. Worst case she grabs a cd of National Geographic from the 20's to 40's and case closed. This whole thrash he went through destroyed the 'class' concept he pushes and it was not just the narrative it was the distorted bodies he was trying to use to thread that needle. No amount of justification will get him out of the fact he earned the SHOTA tag. I did not do that F95 did.

Firstly not once did I say that his writing for the scene was convincing or good. The way the children behaved is a possibility in reality is what I say, the way Sophia behaved very very unlikely. The scene could definitely have been written better but I guess he had a writer's block and couldn't come up with a good way to climb the mountain of initiating nudity in the classes.

Also I am not trying to saying that the shota tag is wrong. The game should have 100% but people making it such a negative thing is what I don't like. The other kinks in the game are also not vanilla but kinda depraved. But then judging and ruining the fun for people who like the fetish is wrong completely.

And once again I would mention the boys are 15-16 so means the oldest boy is around 6-8 months younger than Dylan. No one on the thread has a problem with Dylan and Sam because they accepted and made themselves believe that it isn't wrong, that they are big enough. If people never said a word at the beginning when he looked like a little boy along with Sam, I don't understand this sudden outrage.

 

[Sabertooth__]

There's not much point in establishing a dominant position unless sex is the aim. Frustration is the outcome otherwise & what would be the point of all the tasks? We're talking here about a sexually active individual who's turned on by his teacher. I think the Aiden haters should take the first opportunity to leave the storyline but there'll be yet another get-out for those having second thoughts. L&P has voluntarily painted himself into a corner by saying there'll be no non-consensual sex. Now, that we have the likes of genuine shota present in the VN I fail to see why but he's the boss, so it's his decision. Presumably he finds the latter much less objectionable & controversial?

Up to now the balance of Sophia's trepidation, reluctance & enjoyment has, IMO, been just right. This is where L&P has shown his capacity to write to a good standard, incorporating actual eroticism. He also achieved this level with the Alyssa/Antonio & even the prison visit events IMO. They were the sort of happenings that keep me playing.

It's the question of how far Sophia will enjoy, co-operate or instigate the tasks that concerns me. I really don't want to go down the route of, 'Oh Ares, you're so big & hard, what are you doing....that's naughty,' 'Why can't I stop myself when I know this is so wrong?' 'It's as tho' I'm someone else...' etc. This is not only cliched, it's just not erotic. It's been overdone to the point where it's like a slice of burnt toast served cold, without butter or margarine. This is what I suspect is coming, once Sophia has been "corrupted" enough by working through the tasks.

This is why I'm taking action early to try to break the AWAM habit. It's either blackmail, or it's not. There's no real middle way.
Alternatively, I might just take the Morello option & see what happens.....

We have different views on this is all I can say. For you domination includes sex for me it does not. For me it is all about establishing the control and it comes from things as small as what to wear, what to eat, whether one is allowed to speak or not, TPE etc.

Aiden can establish that control by even asking Sophia to go in an alleyway fuck a guy for the last task, that would be a lot better display power than he himself doing it. Again just my opinion