VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Deleted member 1034595]

I’m sure the painting class will happen again. Anyone have any idea on what sort of pose or scenario L&P will go for?

 

[Talcum Powder]

Ideas are always welcome but try and at least try be a little bit realistic

So you're saying my desire to see Dylan with the ball gag and in the stocks, pants around his ankles, getting tag-teamed in the ass by the massive horse-phallus-strapons of Marie and Emma, both in full dominatrix getup (including leather cat-woman masks) while Ellie and Sophia, in lab coats and wearing huge grins on their faces, take copious notes as Liam orgies out with Patricia, Alyssa, Nathalie, and Neil in the corner under the crucified Aiden (replete with crown of thorns), seven pigeons plucking his flesh, has no place in this forum?

WTF dude. Cancel culture at its worst.

 

[Deleted member 2183629]

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[hzjujk]

regardless of what will happen in those 3 mutually alternative events, I'm now wondering what are the different paths for each of them:

• Sophia/Dylan and Emma/Dylan are quite obviously alternative as the moment Sophia hooked up Dylan with Emma the Dylan route ended
• What about Dylan/Ellie though? we know that:
  • The previous bonus story (helping with the laptop, PD11), from the walkthrough:

• So it is still in the FW route, but under which other condition?
• Is there a path in which Dylan is not pursuing Sophia other than the Emma's?
• In the boarding school path, according to the walkthrough you need to fulfill the 2nd task. So in this case it happens only if she drop the 3rd task? But then there is another Dylan/Ellie event before the evening one which is in turn alternate with a boarding school path event. So I'd say no...
• Maybe it only depends on the points that Dylan has? Below a certain threshold he cannot go further with Sophia and the story goes on with Ellie?
• Or the Ellie/Dylan event in the at noon will have a required choice that precludes the other events in the evening?

So many questions... Anyone?

I do not think that you will part ways with Sophia / Elli or Sophia / Dylan now. This is not (yet) necessary at this point in time. It will probably be like the Alyssa / Elli election. (If you choose Alyssa you just have less Elli content only.) Sophia's thoughts and feelings will be interesting if she just watches. This could actually influence the future course of the game. Also with the possibility of Sophia / Emma.

 

[Old Dog]

So you're saying my desire to see Dylan with the ball gag and in the stocks, pants around his ankles, getting tag-teamed in the ass by the massive horse-phallus-strapons of Marie and Emma, both in full dominatrix getup (including leather cat-woman masks) while Ellie and Sophia, in lab coats and wearing huge grins on their faces, take copious notes as Liam orgies out with Patricia, Alyssa, Nathalie, and Neil in the corner under the crucified Aiden (replete with crown of thorns), seven pigeons plucking his flesh, has no place in this forum?

WTF dude. Cancel culture at its worst.

ERM ERM ERM ERM

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

NAh, I did not accept any of the dialogue or narrative. It was contrived and horrible. He failed, face it. Worst he has done `cuz he was dancing around the subject. Gray's Anatomy!!! All Sophia (the experienced teacher) would have done is grab a copy and case closed. Worst case she grabs a cd of National Geographic from the 20's to 40's and case closed. This whole thrash he went through destroyed the 'class' concept he pushes and it was not just the narrative it was the distorted bodies he was trying to use to thread that needle. No amount of justification will get him out of the fact he earned the SHOTA tag. I did not do that F95 did.

Sophia wasn't allowed to bring in any text books to use for the class. The mother was adamant about that and checked to make sure Sophia wasn't sneaking in any books.

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

Sophia wasn't allowed to bring in any text books to use for the class. The mother was adamant about that and checked to make sure Sophia wasn't sneaking in any books.

National Geo ain't a text book and Gray's Anatomy is a reference for Med school. It is not a text book. In either case it is again a contrived scenario by L&P as even the most ardent home school programs use tons of text books. Hell, she could have brought in a book of Michelangelo's collected works (Mom could not deny the painter of the Sistine or sculptor of David) and gotten perfect imagery to use for the discussion.

This drives home the failure now of a "game with class". If he has to contrive BS situations to achieve his goals he is not classy but, just like all the other games. With the one exception, it is taking freaking forever to 'put out' (pun intended) product. The Classy went away on last update for this very scene in any one of a number of ways. IMO.

I find "A Mother's Love" and "Where the Heart Is?" (Katie cracks me up, some of the best low brow humor out there.) are way ahead on classy and story line. IMO.

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

in fact we can not do anything, but we should find a way to prevent users from writing every 3 pages: when does the next update come out?

But, it kinda functions as a page break.

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

Hozy7717 said:

Oh wow! what an amazing game! I hope the dev updates it regularly

Prepare to suffer and put ice cubes in your panties

Pantyhozy!

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

National Geo ain't a text book and Gray's Anatomy is a reference for Med school. It is not a text book. In either case it is again a contrived scenario by L&P as even the most ardent home school programs use tons of text books. Hell, she could have brought in a book of Michelangelo's collected works (Mom could not deny the painter of the Sistine or sculptor of David) and gotten perfect imagery to use for the discussion.

This drives home the failure now of a "game with class". If he has to contrive BS situations to achieve his goals he is not classy but, just like all the other games. With the one exception, it is taking freaking forever to 'put out' (pun intended) product. The Classy went away on last update for this very scene in any one of a number of ways. IMO.

I find "A Mother's Love" and "Where the Heart Is?" (Katie cracks me up, some of the best low brow humor out there.) are way ahead on classy and story line. IMO.

Perhaps I should have been more clearer. Sophia wasn't allowed to bring in ANY books, reference materials, CDs, signs, TV shows, video tapes, actors, mimes, sock puppets, or even freaky electric boogaloo dance moves on account of the mother. If you had paid attention to the classy storyline you would have read that.

 

[Talcum Powder]

Perhaps I should have been more clearer. Sophia wasn't allowed to bring in ANY books, reference materials, CDs, signs, TV shows, video tapes, actors, mimes, sock puppets, or even freaky electric boogaloo dance moves on account of the mother. If you had paid attention to the classy storyline you would have read that.

Right, under such constraints the only option, obviously, was to give hand jobs to children. There would be no sense in recommending some text books for the mother to review and approve, because, you know, hand jobs.

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

Perhaps I should have been more clearer. Sophia wasn't allowed to bring in ANY books, reference materials, CDs, signs, TV shows, video tapes, actors, mimes, sock puppets, or even freaky electric boogaloo dance moves on account of the mother. If you had paid attention to the classy storyline you would have read that.

As I said "CONTRIVED". This is the failure that moved him out of classy. Not just the art the entire BS he had of this scenario. Total fail. No more classy. Thrown out with the bath water. After this he is just tossing together renderings.

 

[mad_hungarian]

Right, under such constraints the only option, obviously, was to give hand jobs to children. There would be no sense in recommending some text books for the mother to review and approve, because, you know, hand jobs.

hahaha, motherfucker you made me spew my coffee! haha

 

[Talcum Powder]

hahaha, motherfucker you made me spew my coffee! haha

Glad to be of service.

 

[Talcum Powder]

I honestly do believe there was a way for L&P to get that second side job up to the point where she actually would give hand jobs to the disciples, and maybe even go further. That would of course take a hell of a lot of time and a hell of a lot of scenes told over a hell of a lot of playable days so the relationship and group dynamic could evolve, not just so that the disciples' curiosity could grow over time, but also their boldness and confidence - which would run in parallel with all the other events in her life contributing to her own awakening, curiosity, and comfort.

On the one hand, that we got "there" so quickly could be chalked up to lazy writing and poor story telling. But honestly, even L&P knows his patreon supporters aren't going to tolerate 2nd Side Job events one through six (and that's being generous, more like eight or nine, minimum) to build out a foundation that could plausibly support this type of action. So he knows he can't justify the time investment and he knows he can't focus on what is called, in-game, a side job to the detriment of major characters and major events that progress the major storylines. So he's left with the challenge of how to keep all things at roughly the same stage of progress across all paths. (Roughly, not exactly).

The solution he went with wasn't reflective of his stated intent:

"I’m trying to fuse art and eroticism, combined with a slowly developing story full of lust and passion, to create an aesthetic, realistic adult game."
- Lust & Passion​

What's especially ironic about it, though, is that his statement of intent begins with a derision of the very crutches he's now leaning on to prop up certain elements of his story that can't stand on their own:

"After seeing so many lower-quality adult games, where the primary goal is to show as much skin or as many h scenes as possible right from the beginning, without any good story or character development ... I've decided to develop my own ambitious, realistic, detail-oriented, quality-focused adult game"
- Lust & Passion​

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

I honestly do believe there was a way for L&P to get that second side job up to the point where she actually would give hand jobs to the disciples, and maybe even go further. That would of course take a hell of a lot of time and a hell of a lot of scenes told over a hell of a lot of playable days so the relationship and group dynamic could evolve, not just so that the disciples' curiosity could grow over time, but also their boldness and confidence - which would run in parallel with all the other events in her life contributing to her own awakening, curiosity, and comfort.

On the one hand, that we got "there" so quickly could be chalked up to lazy writing and poor story telling. But honestly, even L&P knows his patreon supporters aren't going to tolerate 2nd Side Job events one through six (and that's being generous, more like eight or nine, minimum) to build out a foundation that could plausibly support this type of action. So he knows he can't justify the time investment and he knows he can't focus on what is called, in-game, a side job to the detriment of major characters and major events that progress the major storylines. So he's left with the challenge of how to keep all things at roughly the same stage of progress across all paths. (Roughly, not exactly).

The solution he went with wasn't reflective of his stated intent:

"I’m trying to fuse art and eroticism, combined with a slowly developing story full of lust and passion, to create an aesthetic, realistic adult game."
- Lust & Passion​

What's especially ironic about it, though, is that his statement of intent begins with a derision of the very crutches he's now leaning on to prop up certain elements of his story that can't stand on their own:

"After seeing so many lower-quality adult games, where the primary goal is to show as much skin or as many h scenes as possible right from the beginning, without any good story or character development ... I've decided to develop my own ambitious, realistic, detail-oriented, quality-focused adult game"
- Lust & Passion​

In the UK that would be called Delta Hotel = Direct Hit. In the US we call it a Shack.

 

[Troy9000]

will the new update come out in december?

June 25th 2026 at exactly 3:39 am

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

Right, under such constraints the only option, obviously, was to give hand jobs to children. There would be no sense in recommending some text books for the mother to review and approve, because, you know, hand jobs.

I didn't say hand jobs would have been the next go to solution, just what was stated at the beginning of the storyline.
t3alqdansam said that she should have brought in books or reference materials. I wasn't sure if he understood why she couldn't.

 

[Talcum Powder]

I didn't say hand jobs would have been the next go to solution, just what was stated at the beginning of the storyline.
t3alqdansam said that she should have brought in books or reference materials. I wasn't sure if he understood why she couldn't.

which fully supports his use of the word contrivance.

 

[Alley_Cat]

So you're saying my desire to see Dylan with the ball gag and in the stocks, pants around his ankles, getting tag-teamed in the ass by the massive horse-phallus-strapons of Marie and Emma, both in full dominatrix getup (including leather cat-woman masks) while Ellie and Sophia, in lab coats and wearing huge grins on their faces, take copious notes as Liam orgies out with Patricia, Alyssa, Nathalie, and Neil in the corner under the crucified Aiden (replete with crown of thorns), seven pigeons plucking his flesh, has no place in this forum?

WTF dude. Cancel culture at its worst.

If you want to see that, request it in the fan art thread. It's only in this thread that some of us might point out the unlikelihood of that kind of content being in the game. Especially if you're trying to be humorous and I've missed the point