Bane71

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I believe these new posts are from a woman. Best I can tell, a "Carolina". As opposed to "Cordelia", and "Francis". It's curious though that it appears that the only players of late that are having trouble with getting Dylan to win the fight in the park are Russians playing on Android.
:giggle: Buddy, different nicknames, but it's all the same person and he's not Russian. He is probably a resident of one of the Central Asian republics, his terrible Russian language and manner of communication tells me about this. And he is the only one who has problems with Android.
 

hzjujk

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Whatever gives you that idea? If anything, Patricia will be the one dropping Sophia off at Cathy and Andy's apartment
Because the small but possible twist is that Sophia stays with Sam, lies to her husband and he goes to Cathy and Andrew alone. That wouldn't even affect a possible swinger route. All of this has already been discussed a few times here in the forum.
 
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Because the small but possible twist is that Sophia stays with Sam, lies to her husband and he goes to Cathy and Andrew alone. That wouldn't even affect a possible swinger route. All of this has already been discussed a few times here in the forum.
In this case, she may not even lie to her husband, but tell him to go to Katie himself and she will also drive there and they will meet there on the spot.
 

hzjujk

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Look, this is already crossing all the boundaries! I don't understand why you don't like the jumpsuit?!
I don't see any problem with Sam driving Sofia straight to Katie and Andy's apartment. In the outfit in which Sofia was at the concert, she may well come to visit her friends.
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However, I don't understand at all why you don't like Sofia's jumpsuit?
It's not the outfit. But that Sophia has dressed up for this evening. She doesn't look like a prostitute but like a woman who wants to impress someone with her looks. Sam will definitely relate the effort you put in. If Dylan saw Sophia like that he would immediately suspect. Liam might not be that smart, but he would definitely make a comment. The missing bra is just another point.
 

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It's not the outfit. But that Sophia has dressed up for this evening. She doesn't look like a prostitute but like a woman who wants to impress someone with her looks. Sam will definitely relate the effort you put in. If Dylan saw Sophia like that he would immediately suspect. Liam might not be that smart, but he would definitely make a comment. The missing bra is just another point.
That's right, Sofia looks great and somewhat defiant. If you read my other comments on this issue, you will understand my position. I will not repeat the explanations.
 

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For the people complaining that the bar looks a lot rougher then they thought it would be; not appropriate for Sam's little band to play in, not appropriate for Sophia to be dancing round in a (latex) romper.
I... I'm pretty sure that that's the point.
L&P's intention was to bamboozle not just Sophia, but all of us, about how the scene would play out.

Oh No! A rough and tumble biker bar, and with Sophia dressed like she thought she was going to 'disco night at the Sandals Resort bar and grill' - oof, such a situation is sure to make Sophia uncomfortable, might even push her... out of her comfort zone.
Ideal staging for a game about an austere, happily married woman's slow and steady corruption, no?

Also I do hope that L&P changes the wording of his game description on Patreon some day - take out all the references to 'Realistic' and replace it with 'Grounded'. The difference is subtle but significant (and forgivable for someone who's working with English as their second language).
I have a very contrary thought to that. The corruption in this game is supposed to be willfully and not forced. Putting Sophia in an uncomfortable situation is definitely not a way to willingly let her accept the corruption. She needs to be made to feel comfortable with this. Like the scene with Ellie and Jules, Aiden's 3rd task, she was made to feel comfortable, she was given such an environment where she could feel comfortable and let go. So making her feel uncomfortable only works in the opposite direction
 

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The end of October looks like a very real deadline for the release of the update! Unless, of course, something happens that will radically delay the work on the update.
Nah, still looking like mid-November at the earliest, and this is with no delays.
Pct CompleteFactorPct of Update
Created Scenes55%55%30.25%
Rendered Scenes55%25%13.75%
Art edited with PS15%5%0.75%
Programming & Translation0%15%0.00%
Total Pct of Update Completed44.75%
Start Date7/5/2021
Festival of Bullshit (excuses)0
Bullshit Days Consumed so far0
Current # Days of Production (less BS consumed)57
Days remaining in Festival of Bullshit0
Estimated Completion Date11/9/2021

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Bane71

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Nah, still looking like mid-November at the earliest, and this is with no delays.
Pct CompleteFactorPct of Update
Created Scenes55%55%30.25%
Rendered Scenes55%25%13.75%
Art edited with PS15%5%0.75%
Programming & Translation0%15%0.00%
Total Pct of Update Completed44.75%
Start Date7/5/2021
Festival of Bullshit (excuses)0
Bullshit Days Consumed so far0
Current # Days of Production (less BS consumed)57
Days remaining in Festival of Bullshit0
Estimated Completion Date11/9/2021

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Perhaps you are right, I will not argue, because I do not use complex schemes for calculations. :giggle:
 
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Perhaps you are right, I will not argue, because I do not use complex schemes for calculations. :giggle:
This isn't complex, it's completely linear. I'm just drawing a straight line based on what we know up until now. Also, there's no way to account for what the percentages actually mean, either: 5% of a scene could be 5 renders or 25 renders, we just don't know.
 

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Nah, still looking like mid-November at the earliest, and this is with no delays.
Pct CompleteFactorPct of Update
Created Scenes55%55%30.25%
Rendered Scenes55%25%13.75%
Art edited with PS15%5%0.75%
Programming & Translation0%15%0.00%
Total Pct of Update Completed44.75%
Start Date7/5/2021
Festival of Bullshit (excuses)0
Bullshit Days Consumed so far0
Current # Days of Production (less BS consumed)57
Days remaining in Festival of Bullshit0
Estimated Completion Date11/9/2021

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I like it!
Can't wait to drink beer at the festival!!!
 

hzjujk

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Richtig, Sofia sieht toll und etwas trotzig aus. Wenn Sie meine anderen Kommentare zu diesem Thema lesen, werden Sie meine Position verstehen. Ich werde die Erläuterungen nicht wiederholen.
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Habe ich schon. Und das war meine Antwort. :)
Oh yes, and Cathy would notice Sophia's afterglow immediately. I have learned in my life that women have a sixth sense for each other.
 
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This isn't complex, it's completely linear. I'm just drawing a straight line based on what we know up until now. Also, there's no way to account for what the percentages actually mean, either: 5% of a scene could be 5 renders or 25 renders, we just don't know.
I understand, my friend, but naively I continue to hope that the update will be released at the end of October, because my birthday is at the end of October!
And I would have liked your posts, but I reached the limit. :)
 
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hzjujk

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I have a very contrary thought to that. The corruption in this game is supposed to be willfully and not forced. Putting Sophia in an uncomfortable situation is definitely not a way to willingly let her accept the corruption. She needs to be made to feel comfortable with this. Like the scene with Ellie and Jules, Aiden's 3rd task, she was made to feel comfortable, she was given such an environment where she could feel comfortable and let go. So making her feel uncomfortable only works in the opposite direction
That's how I see it too. Corruption means throwing one's moral and ethical values overboard for a short-term benefit. And that voluntarily! A forced sexual event does not increase Sophia's corruption. Of course, some will say that Sophia could enjoy the "rape" but that goes far beyond reality.
 

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For the people complaining that the bar looks a lot rougher then they thought it would be; not appropriate for Sam's little band to play in, not appropriate for Sophia to be dancing round in a (latex) romper.
I... I'm pretty sure that that's the point.
L&P's intention was to bamboozle not just Sophia, but all of us, about how the scene would play out.

Oh No! A rough and tumble biker bar, and with Sophia dressed like she thought she was going to 'disco night at the Sandals Resort bar and grill' - oof, such a situation is sure to make Sophia uncomfortable, might even push her... out of her comfort zone.
Ideal staging for a game about an austere, happily married woman's slow and steady corruption, no?

Also I do hope that L&P changes the wording of his game description on Patreon some day - take out all the references to 'Realistic' and replace it with 'Grounded'. The difference is subtle but significant (and forgivable for someone who's working with English as their second language).
I think everyone understands what L&P is attempting, there's just disagreement if it's the right approach. The idea of pushing Sophia out of her comfort zone is good, the debate is whether this would be a step too far. Stepping out of your comfort zone is a gradual thing where you (or those that are corrupting you) slowly crank up the intensity. Crank it up too quickly though and the person can regress back deeper into their comfort zone. So if this is truly a biker bar, that would be too much of an escalation in some people's eyes.

Personally though I don't think L&P is going to make the bar that rough. I don't think his intention is some crazy sketchy biker bar. Instead I think this will be a dive bar that happens to have bikers at it. Sophia will feel out of place, but nothing too severe. Still though, letting a kid's garage band play at your dive bar is just stupid.

And maybe the word "grounded" would be better.
 

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The end of October looks like a very real deadline for the release of the update! Unless, of course, something happens that will radically delay the work on the update.
If I recall it took him nearly 20 days for coding and translation So at currrent rate he is heading for end of October w/Creation and rendering while still needing some Photoshop and the Code/translation. I am thinking best at end of November. Still better than January.
 
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