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what a scary photo. there is a disease called "harelip" or "cleft palate". I hope that there will be no such models in daz3d. although there is something similar in the "Lesson of Passion" - but it looks pretty cute.
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I don't think Lauren suffers from such a disease, but these lips transform all characters in bimbo, IMO.
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There's the Cathy and Andy event afterward. That's why I've been saying Sam wont be giving Sophia a lift home, and it's far more likely that Patricia will be the one giving her a lift.
If Patricia Sophia should really go home at the end of the concert, the story of the Sam event must be told in a rather bumpy manner to give Sam and Sophia time alone. I know you believe the invitation from Cathy forces you to write the story like this, but Sophia may have simply forgotten the invitation, especially since she is in a romantic mood right now. Until a call from Liam reminds her of it again. I find this way much easier to tell than to find a reason for Patricia remaining the chauffeur.
 

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If Patricia Sophia should really go home at the end of the concert, the story of the Sam event must be told in a rather bumpy manner to give Sam and Sophia time alone. I know you believe the invitation from Cathy forces you to write the story like this, but Sophia may have simply forgotten the invitation, especially since she is in a romantic mood right now. Until a call from Liam reminds her of it again. I find this way much easier to tell than to find a reason for Patricia remaining the chauffeur.
I'll agree. If Sophia and Patricia arrive at the bar together, and then go home together, that leaves very narrow window for anything to happen with Sam. If this event is actually a Patricia and Sophia event instead of Sam and Sophia, then ok maybe that makes more sense; but our understanding is that this event exists to advance the relationship with Sam. If Sophia leaves the bar with Patricia without some significant progress with Sam, it's going to feel like like the Sam storyline is spinning its wheels.
 

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If Patricia Sophia should really go home at the end of the concert, the story of the Sam event must be told in a rather bumpy manner to give Sam and Sophia time alone. I know you believe the invitation from Cathy forces you to write the story like this, but Sophia may have simply forgotten the invitation, especially since she is in a romantic mood right now. Until a call from Liam reminds her of it again. I find this way much easier to tell than to find a reason for Patricia remaining the chauffeur.
If the band do get heckled off stage and Sam is upset then maybe Sophia will have to make it up to him another time,whick would defeat the purpose
Another POV from Either Sophia/Sam or even Patricia :ROFLMAO:
 
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If the band do get heckled off stage and Sam is upset then maybe Sophia will have to make it up to him another time,whick would defeat the purpose
Another POV from Either Sophia/Sam or even Patricia
Is your contribution to be understood in such a way that the course of the concert makes a time impossible on its own because Sam is no longer in the mood?
 

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Is your contribution to be understood in such a way that the course of the concert makes a time impossible on its own because Sam is no longer in the mood?
NO...................I am just throwing out ideas while waiting for my render to finish,bad ones I grant you
 
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As familiar as she is with the city and its surroundings, Patricia will never leave Sophia alone there with Sam.
My initial assumption that Sam will drive Sophia home was wrong because that bar :ROFLMAO:

So Patricia will drive Sophia home in her car. Sam behind them, more or less, so far it makes sense.
So, all going to happen around Sophia's house. But where the hell are Ellie and Dylan?

OK, Dylan could "comfort" Christine ;).
 

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As familiar as she is with the city and its surroundings, Patricia will never leave Sophia alone there with Sam.
My initial assumption that Sam will drive Sophia home was wrong because that bar :ROFLMAO:

So Patricia will drive Sophia home in her car. Sam behind them, more or less, so far it makes sense.
So, all going to happen around Sophia's house. But where the hell are Ellie and Dylan?

OK, Dylan could "comfort" Christine ;).
So if Patricia drives Sophia home(or to meet with Liam) the Sam event could happen either before or after meeting up with Liam?
Yes. The concert is just the very ambitious prelude for the actual interesting event. But it's not an "after party"! At least not the way you think of it.
 
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So if Patricia drives Sophia home(or to meet with Liam) the Sam event could happen either before or after meeting up with Liam?

Yes. The concert is just the very ambitious prelude for the actual interesting event. But it's not an "after party"! At least not the way you think of it.
My opinion.
Sophia/Patricia gets home, she's alone, Liam hasn't arrived yet, and she's seeing Sam again. I guess Dylan/Ellie aren't home.
 

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My opinion.
Sophia/Patricia gets home, she's alone, Liam hasn't arrived yet, and she's seeing Sam again. I guess Dylan/Ellie aren't home.
Surely there has to be some contact between them for progression to mean anything.
I had thought that Sophia would meet Liam at cathy's place since there will be drinking so Sam still could give Sophia a life so a taxi back or there would be in order
 

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As familiar as she is with the city and its surroundings, Patricia will never leave Sophia alone there with Sam.
My initial assumption that Sam will drive Sophia home was wrong because that bar :ROFLMAO:

So Patricia will drive Sophia home in her car. Sam behind them, more or less, so far it makes sense.
So, all going to happen around Sophia's house. But where the hell are Ellie and Dylan?

OK, Dylan could "comfort" Christine ;).
The whole reason Ellie might not be there is she has plans with friends. She's already said that.

And Dylan didn't get the invite.
 

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So if Patricia drives Sophia home(or to meet with Liam) the Sam event could happen either before or after meeting up with Liam?

Yes. The concert is just the very ambitious prelude for the actual interesting event. But it's not an "after party"! At least not the way you think of it.
Not an after party means they go home, each on their own.
 
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As familiar as she is with the city and its surroundings, Patricia will never leave Sophia alone there with Sam.
My initial assumption that Sam will drive Sophia home was wrong because that bar :ROFLMAO:

So Patricia will drive Sophia home in her car. Sam behind them, more or less, so far it makes sense.
So, all going to happen around Sophia's house. But where the hell are Ellie and Dylan?

OK, Dylan could "comfort" Christine ;).
Patricia would leave, but only if Sophia and Sam were leaving at the same time. I agree that she would never leave her sister there alone with just Sam as company. But I could see a scenario where Patricia and Sophia are leaving and Sam decides to leave too and offers to give Sophia a ride home. That's the only way it works.

If they all relocate back to the house that just feels boring to me. We have this great new asset, lets use it.
 
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As familiar as she is with the city and its surroundings, Patricia will never leave Sophia alone there with Sam.
My initial assumption that Sam will drive Sophia home was wrong because that bar :ROFLMAO:

So Patricia will drive Sophia home in her car. Sam behind them, more or less, so far it makes sense.
So, all going to happen around Sophia's house. But where the hell are Ellie and Dylan?

OK, Dylan could "comfort" Christine ;).
Was there any indication that Patricia suspected something serious was developing between Sam and Sophia? And Patricia is someone who wants to prevent that? For me it is no problem at all that Sophia lets Sam drive her home if Sam suggests that. And that Patricia has no problem with it. Sam and Sophia are neighbors, the proposal is just effective.
 

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I'll agree. If Sophia and Patricia arrive at the bar together, and then go home together, that leaves very narrow window for anything to happen with Sam. If this event is actually a Patricia and Sophia event instead of Sam and Sophia, then ok maybe that makes more sense; but our understanding is that this event exists to advance the relationship with Sam. If Sophia leaves the bar with Patricia without some significant progress with Sam, it's going to feel like like the Sam storyline is spinning its wheels.
Sophia wore what Aiden told her to and got on a motorbike with him without knowing where they where going to.
Why should this event be any different?
 
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