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he will never show his technique and resources, he does not even share the text for translation; let alone his art
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He never said he think you don't know what to tell him (he wasn't even talking to you) so your *** can stop laughing...
People can get confused between renders, that doesn't mean those who produced them have the same skill.
1. Some (if not most) people here read this thread with their smartphone while most people play this VN with a computer. With small screens it's much harder to pay attention to small differences within the renders.
2. Different people have different attention to details. Some people don't care if their favorite show is on SD, and some can't even consider watching it with a non 4k big screen TV.
3. Diminishing returns is a real thing. It's very easy to render a shitty render, it's not that hard to render a good render, but it's very difficult to render a perfect render (no, l&p doesn't deliver perfect renders, no one does...). Look again at your render, do you really compare it to L&P's?
I'm pretty sure L&P can produce equal quality faster than you, but he doesn't. He delivers better quality (I'm sure we can agree on this), with a diminishing returns (Some people wouldn't even notice, it will take more time and not in a linear fashion etc.). So the fact someone can produce a mediocre render (sorry) in 10 minutes doesn't mean L&P can deliver a superb render (no, not all his renders are superb) in 5.
You constantly say there are better artists, well, of course there are, but not many (and in my opinion, not in the fan art thread, sorry). But where's the connection? As was mentioned here before, people are different. I can practice more than Michael jordan, but I'll never beat him 1 on 1 (even though he's in his late 50's and I'm much younger than him). As long as you're not aware of L&P's workflow, all you're doing is assuming he is the Usain Bolt of Daz skill, but he's too lazy/greedy/SomeOtherInsult to show it. That's your assumption and nothing more, so advertising it as the non arguable truth is just stupid...
I said many pages ago there aren't many (if any) lone dev's here that deliver L&P's quality in a significanty faster updates and I stand by this statement (Someone in reply gave a list of games, but none of them has been of better quality and a lone dev and delivered a significantly faster updates). Maybe you can be this dev who delivers better renders in significantly faster updates...
By the way, posting false renders as L&P's, false statements as L&P's and those not so funny anymore (imo) posts about killjoys/old dog having the alpha versions is purely trolling.
That's a beautiful render, but Sophia looks like she's been paste on the couch. Her body should "interact" with the couch (don't know the right word, but you know what I mean). These are the small things that L&P pays attention to (most of the time...) that differs him from others, and that's time consuming.
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This is what I mean as it is a different style of render from L&P,it is a very good render,even if I say so my myself
.Paste on the couch, now that is harsh,but I think the word that you are looking for is sink into the object
After so many years of development this is a noob mistake made by L&P and he should of done better
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I said most of the times. L&P also has some far from perfect renders (in the beginning mostly). Not all his renders are great.This is what I mean as it is a different style of render from L&P,it is a very good render,even if I say so my myself
Paste on the couch now that is harsh,but I think the word that you are looking for is sink into the object
After so many years of development this is a noob mistake made by L&P and he should of done better
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I have few questions:-
1. Why was L&P able to give faster updates in past like half day updates in 2 months sometime even in 45-50 days?
2. Why assume that L&P is doing his best by someone and he is delaying updates by someone else?
3. Why no urgency by L&P words in his response to patrons(or others) to finish the game? Is he dodging the completion of game issue?
4. Why are people not concerned about the completion of game? Is it useless to ponder or discuss it?
5. Why would you trust a developer who has done things against his promises on patron page?
6. Does being very good at creating renders and storyline makes you immune to criticisms?
7. Are some people here fearful that L&P would stop making updates when people question him about his work or discuss it among themselves?
8. Why L&P has shown signs of vanity and low self esteem in his responses here on the site or on patron page?
9. Can't people argue that work could be better done?
10. Is all discussion about his work of no implication as he has reached a certain level of fame and financial security?
LAST QUESTION - this one I will answer here
Are people wasting their time worried too much about the game? Yes
1. Why was L&P able to give faster updates in past like half day updates in 2 months sometime even in 45-50 days?
2. Why assume that L&P is doing his best by someone and he is delaying updates by someone else?
3. Why no urgency by L&P words in his response to patrons(or others) to finish the game? Is he dodging the completion of game issue?
4. Why are people not concerned about the completion of game? Is it useless to ponder or discuss it?
5. Why would you trust a developer who has done things against his promises on patron page?
6. Does being very good at creating renders and storyline makes you immune to criticisms?
7. Are some people here fearful that L&P would stop making updates when people question him about his work or discuss it among themselves?
8. Why L&P has shown signs of vanity and low self esteem in his responses here on the site or on patron page?
9. Can't people argue that work could be better done?
10. Is all discussion about his work of no implication as he has reached a certain level of fame and financial security?
LAST QUESTION - this one I will answer here
Are people wasting their time worried too much about the game? Yes
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How many pigeons are hidden in the picture?
I find this line of reasoning interesting. For how many years have the Cleveland Browns fans suffered? For how many years is the 'dog pound' full of dedicated supporters? Was this the model of realism that L&P truly envisioned?
Just a thought.
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that's where the time went- he sawed the table under Sofia's ass! do you have any idea how hard it is?This is what I mean as it is a different style of render from L&P,it is a very good render,even if I say so my myself
Paste on the couch now that is harsh,but I think the word that you are looking for is sink into the object
After so many years of development this is a noob mistake made by L&P and he should of done better
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Yes..I have a very good idea of hard it an bethat's where the time went- he sawed the table under Sofia's ass! do you have any idea how hard it is?
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Bane71 said:
L&P is not a robot, he is a human, he may make mistakes or a preliminary idea of the scene may not correspond to the result obtained, which leads to alterations and, accordingly, more time to create one scene consisting of 100 renderers, for example.
Working on the creation of AWAM is creative work, like, for example, creating fan art, but for fan art, its creators have much lower requirements, so it is incorrect to compare this work to a direct one.
I suggest an apology to those skilled artists.
L&P is not a robot, he is a human, he may make mistakes or a preliminary idea of the scene may not correspond to the result obtained, which leads to alterations and, accordingly, more time to create one scene consisting of 100 renderers, for example.
Working on the creation of AWAM is creative work, like, for example, creating fan art, but for fan art, its creators have much lower requirements, so it is incorrect to compare this work to a direct one.
Just to support my fellow Python fan, Bane71 you stepped on the rake. There are several artists on the fan art thread that, IMO, are as good or superior to L&P. And I am sure they are not working 11 hours a day on the art. That does not include those that have moved on to other thangs. You are riding the edge of rabid support not your usual reasoned approach.
I suggest an apology to those skilled artists.
In your opinion! I have seen many times where L&P is no better than the most basic fan art poster, He misses things just as anyone else. Improper hang of the clothes, body cut through, floating above the floor or seat, ridiculous hair changes. Have you looked at how long that pony tail was that she had in the basketball game. Where did all that come from? Did she use extensions just for the BBall game? Interactions with the environment have errors as well. He is not fucking Michelangelo and that is any of the time.