VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Hlextor]

What a waste.

We should not throw in the towel with Morello! Let's wait for the next day. I think that there might be another surprising story with him later.

 

[Old Dog]

We should not throw in the towel with Morello! Let's wait for the next day. I think that there might be another surprising story with him later.

You could be right mate,there maybe more to Morello/Larry than just sorting out Aiden/Bennett but I have my doubts.
Unless he throws in a curve ball concerning Liam,who has had to do nothing so far as it has all been on Sophia.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

We should not throw in the towel with Morello! Let's wait for the next day. I think that there might be another surprising story with him later.

You could be right mate,there maybe more to Morello/Larry than just sorting out Aiden/Bennett but I have my doubts.
Unless he throws in a curve ball concerning Liam,who has had to do nothing so far as it has all been on Sophia.

we will know everything in 2050

 

[Angmir]

To be clear, I DO NOT want a "housewife finds a prince" story, in fact I think the FW story will culminate in an extremely dark ending that will leave Sophia with nothing.

And speaking of Don Morello, I think he's the best example of a missed opportunity. He's a male character that hits all the important notes. He's attractive, interesting, and could foreseeable corrupt Sophia in new and interesting ways. You're right that every single corruption game has the same tropes, old men, hobos, blackmail, etc. Why can't one use a good looking, age appropriate, interesting man? Presumably a character like Don Morello could gain a special influence over Sophia that the others couldn't. That's why it's such a shame that he's likely only a minor character. A "indecent proposal" situation would have been fantastic in this game because it could have worked very differently than any of the other corruption storylines. As an example, instead of Sophia inadvertently or reluctantly being corrupted like she is in every other storyline, Sophia could be seduced by Morello's lifestyle and charms. In the process of this seduction, Sophia would overestimate her position, give up more of herself, and in the end receive nothing of comparable value- the whole time damaging her relationship with Liam.

I'm just spitballing an idea. The point is that Morello could have represented an entirely different way to corrupt, degrade, and humiliate Sophia. Where is it written that every single character in these types of games needs to be below the FMC on the social hierarchy in order for the FMC to be corrupted? L&P claims that he wants to do things differently from classic porn games. Well, this was an opportunity to be different and L&P has instead decided that, after months of preparation, the only use for this character is to play a bit part. What a waste.

You are right.

But notice that "Indecent Proposal" scenario is mostly female-only fantasy ;-

Man simply dont really dig this trope too much. (well I guess some small number of NTR self-humiliation fans there exist) I personaly am lukewarm to this kind of scenarios. Some men do actualy hate them, as they make them feel inadequate and belitled when confronted by a truely atractive, powerfull and confident man. Seeing the girl with loosers, flawed and ordinary men beeing easier to stomach.

In the end - again - the problem is - this is (like 99,9% of all of them) male audience centered game, made by a man.
;-)

I do feel sorry that it leaves you and other hetero women somewhat dissatisfied, but that's how it is.
Just try to enjoy the corruption parts, and maybe even the Morelo storyline will turn out to be more catered to your tastes. Who knows, maybe it will evolve into a route where Sophia becomes Mistress of the Mafia.

 

[Old Dog]

we will know everything in 2050

Sometime next year we should know the answer

 

[Sabertooth__]

You are right.

But notice that "Indecent Proposal" scenario is mostly female-only fantasy ;-

Man simply dont really dig this trope too much. (well I guess some small number of NTR self-humiliation fans there exist) I personaly am lukewarm to this kind of scenarios. Some men do actualy hate them, as they make them feel inadequate and belitled when confronted by a truely atractive, powerfull and confident man. Seeing the girl with loosers, flawed and ordinary men beeing easier to stomach.

In the end - again - the problem is - this is (like 99,9% of all of them) male audience centered game, made by a man.
;-)

I do feel sorry that it leaves you and other hetero women somewhat dissatisfied, but that's how it is.
Just try to enjoy the corruption parts, and maybe even the Morelo storyline will turn out to be more catered to your tastes. Who knows, maybe it will evolve into a route where Sophia becomes Mistress of the Mafia.

How is an indecent proposal "NTR self humiliation" . I am a guy and have watched tons of such scenarios with debt clearing and mafias involved in porn aspect and I think this idea by GingerSweetGirl is actually great and interesting, a nice take on the scenario. Rather than blackmailing and coercing Sophia to do things to clear the debt it would be better to go with an approach where Sophia gets enamoured by this lifestyle of Morello and misunderstands her position.
You are just projecting your personal likes on the entire male fanbase.

He wants to make this different and much more towards realism. In reality a woman squandering everything just to get dick is something only possible in a porn movie. Every guy to grace the scene will not have an intimate scene with Sophia and this is not your typical corruption game where anything goes.

 

[armion82]

Well there is 99% probability that the update will come in November.

This will be a real challenge for the non nutters.

I doubt that there will be so many sex scenes in the update
Anyone taht want anything going from HJ,BJ,TJ to sex,anal and threesome should check 2 other games that will have an update next month-BADIK and SU.

 

[Angmir]

How is an indecent proposal "NTR self humiliation" . I am a guy and have watched tons of such scenarios with debt clearing and mafias involved in porn aspect and I think this is idea by her is actually great and interesting, a nice take on the scenario. Rather than blackmail it would be better to go with an approach where Sophia misunderstands her position.
You are just projecting your personal likes on a the entire male fanbase.

He wants to make this different and much more towards realism. In reality a woman squandering everything just to get dick is something only possible in a porn movie. Every guy to grace the scene will not have an intimate scene with Sophia and this is not you typical corruption game where anything goes.

Having you wife sell herself to a man that seems superior to you in every way (more successful, handsome, confident, getting away with everything he wants), and seeing how your wife enjoys it - that is super humiliating for any man.

So men who enjoy this type of scenario immersive themself into the husband role are into that.
Ofc you can look at it from 3rd person perspective and not immerse yourself in it. But then it is just one of many NTR scenarios. If that is your thing, then by all means.

I am just saying it is not very popular thing among guys. Especialy those who are not into NTR at all. This kind of people usualy hate good looking, successful men in the games compleatly, if they can't play from the perspective of such man.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

we will know everything in 2050

That might be too soon. I'm going to go with 2051.

 

[farrah]

That might be too soon. I'm going to go with 2051.

CyberAWAM2077

 

[Angmir]

But who even said about thinking from Liam's perspective. Sophia having sex with street side thugs and old men is also super humiliating if thought from Liam's perspective, even more Dylan's perspective since she is his mother but we don't. It is Sophia's perspective we follow and look at, other people's perspective don't matter in every scene unless L&P explicitly makes a scene showing their perspective, like he did for Dylan and Liam in one event each.

This was about "Immoral Proposition". And kind of men that possibly would like that movie very much.

There seems to be missunderstanding. I just giving up reasons why, the game focuses more on the "ugly bastards"/teen boys than atractive/successful men.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

I don't care which year, just that I should be alive by the time I get to see it

.......... That was a joke.

 

[Sabertooth__]

I found this today and I believe the Germans here need to answer what is the truth. Maybe L&P himself could give an insight.



Ps - I just wanted to share this meme with the Germans, since I don't know any on my social media, I thought this is the only place.

 

[keefer43]

You are right.

But notice that "Indecent Proposal" scenario is mostly female-only fantasy ;-

Man simply dont really dig this trope too much. (well I guess some small number of NTR self-humiliation fans there exist) I personaly am lukewarm to this kind of scenarios. Some men do actualy hate them, as they make them feel inadequate and belitled when confronted by a truely atractive, powerfull and confident man. Seeing the girl with loosers, flawed and ordinary men beeing easier to stomach.

In the end - again - the problem is - this is (like 99,9% of all of them) male audience centered game, made by a man.
;-)

I do feel sorry that it leaves you and other hetero women somewhat dissatisfied, but that's how it is.
Just try to enjoy the corruption parts, and maybe even the Morelo storyline will turn out to be more catered to your tastes. Who knows, maybe it will evolve into a route where Sophia becomes Mistress of the Mafia.

OK, I am Morello/Larry in any Indecent Proposal setting - that is fine with me.

 

[Hlextor]

I found this today and I believe the Germans here need to answer what is the truth. Maybe L&P himself could give an insight.

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Ps - I just wanted to share this meme with the Germans, since I don't know any on my social media, I thought this is the only place.

I don’t know the meaning with … „to bath with friends is normal in Germany” uhm maybe?

John Wick (Keanu Reeves) plays a short role in the Netflix Movie „SpongeBob Schwammkopf: Eine schwammtastische Rettung“

Not my cup of tea

 

[hmc15]

I don’t know the meaning with … „to bath with friends is normal in Germany” uhm maybe?

John Wick (Keanu Reeves) plays a short role in the Netflix Movie „SpongeBob Schwammkopf: Eine schwammtastische Rettung“

Not my cup of tea

Spongebob is everyone cup of tea ! XD

 

[anthonycork80]

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[palmtrees89]

I found this today and I believe the Germans here need to answer what is the truth. Maybe L&P himself could give an insight.

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Ps - I just wanted to share this meme with the Germans, since I don't know any on my social media, I thought this is the only place.

Unfortunately, it's not. I personally wouldn't mind if it would include only my female friends, though.

 

[swaghaver9000]

When's the next update due?

 

[hzjujk]

You're talking about the jogging event? That was by far better than the previous events with Dylan and Sophia? I mean, his behavior towards Sophia was, in my opinion, relaxed towards his mother. Starting with the scene where Sophia asks him to join her for a jog. One PD earlier, we wouldn't have had a choice whether he went jogging with her or preferred to lie lazily on the sofa. I think he would not have left this chance to go jogging with her. And also the conversation itself was - as far as I can remember - very adult and not the usual needy behavior of Dylan.

Very grown up? No, rather not? The only difference was that Dylan no longer had any shame to admit his sexual preferences towards his mother. And that makes him, no not more grown-up, more relaxed in dealing with women and especially with Sophia. But you are right when you mention that the dialogues no longer seem so terrible and Dylan no longer appears to be a complete idiot.