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this is one of the flaws for me: lack of planning. but I am seeing this in many developers
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You're assuming that all updates will have the same amount of renders. Some events could have over 50% of renders in a given session (morning, afternoon, night). If we assume that there are about 1000 renders in a given playable day, that would mean around 333 renders per session. It it's 2000 renders per day that figure goes up to 666 and so on and so on. So this first update will give us a ballpark to see where we stand. In theory this should speed his update releases as some events could be very short, not requiring many renders and be more focused on text. But we will see. As a pesimist I don't expect more than two full finished playable days before the Paris Olympics.
IMO, she didn't accept because of Liam's presence. Sam didn't do something extra, instead of his hand he put his lips. Let's point out the reason for Sophia's anger: Sam put her in danger, not because Sam touched/kissed her.
And here we come to the hot point, Sophia wants to stop because of the danger of being discovered and not because of her outright refusal to have a lover.
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And I think the discussion between them, Sam and Sophia, will hit this sore point early on, Sophia will tell him that he needs to stop because someone might find out about them. And the way I see it, Sam will promise her that nothing will get out and that he will never put her in danger again, and their meetings will take place where they can't be found out.
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No Sabertooth__ , we are not going to argue here. I appreciate many of your posts. They are partly written with a certain background knowledge that sometimes makes me suspect that you know quite a lot about the game.Because if the blood runs into my cock, I can no longer think clearly and do not get that somewhere in the house a light turns on ...
Right here you just admitted to what I am saying. You doubt you would be able to control yourself but the married woman who is weak with alcohol still could muster enough willpower to stop it.
The lack of touch which is becoming a bigger factor with each passing day is something you say doesn't matter.
Sophia accepted Sam as a lover at the pool event, maybe not in the real world but in an ideal world where she could. Throughout the storyline there are enough instances where it is mentioned how she is attracted to Sam. Even after so many events with Sam really what had happened before the hot tub event. He got to see an areola, that's all. A lot of the progress when was internal. What we saw was an outburst. Also you agree that a French kiss was the max he should have gotten, apparently that is the max he actually got except for placing his hand on her breast while kissing. After that what happened wasn't allowed by Sophia, and Sophia was upset about it.
There has never been a statement ever that says there can't be a step back. Especially after the dialogue that Sophia really regrets it and wants to put a stop to it. There has not been a single storyline where every event goes beyond what has happened previously everytime.
Without risk there is going to be no progress. Sophia wasn't planning on doing this with Sam, so she would first take safety measures. It happened in the moment. Also I don't understand why this outrage against it.
I didn't see you complain when Nathalie went so far ahead in just one event compared to her previous 3 events ( which is far less than Sam, hardly any actual interaction ). Still it made sense with the way the scenario plays out and how it was Nathalie's intention. Also I never heard people complain when Julia appeared for ONE event with Sophia and in it did far more than Ellie had done and reached the furthest. Even now she is furthest as she actually got in a proper french kiss, had sensory play with Sophia. Played around with her boobs, got Sophia to touch her all over, everything infront of her daughter and all that in 1 event.
One needs to think. That if women in the game are ahead of men and Julia is ahead in the females. Then she is ahead of everyone in the game in just ONE EVENT. This is a case only because Sophia gave into her lust, was extremely turned on, the touches felt good, the kiss melted her completely and did not operate with the logic and sat an thought how much did I let Ellie do to me, what has Patricia, Alyssa etc done to me and based on that I will see how far I allow Julia. Things don't happen that way. If the moment supports, one can even go all the way and still make sense of it.
I know you are not a fan of Sam and neither am I. He is one of my least favourite in the game. You have followed the thread for long and you must know exactly what I feel about Sam's character but here people are unfair and unnecessarily creating an issue where it is not.
Anyways even after all of what I said and the question that I raised about Julia, if you still feel that the storyline makes no sense then you are free to have your opinion. Frankly I don't wanna fight anyone and just want to avoid it and so would like to put an end to this before things get hostile.
We're just discussing our "different" points of view. And clearly I'm biased with not liking Sam as a character. Subjectively, that's not an asset. I know that myself.
"Right here you just admitted to what I am saying. You doubt you would be able to control yourself but the married woman who is weak with alcohol still could muster enough willpower to stop it."
What I meant by that is that she (L&P) can't let it get to that point from the beginning. At most a French kiss. And then stop! Enough! She was only slightly tipsy after all
"Even after so many events with Sam really what had happened before the hot tub event. ..A lot of the progress when was internal. "
We don't know much about that now currently, do we? Maybe we'll find out more in the next event. And sure, I don't know if my guesses with fingering, HJ, etc really show up.
Logically, she should be mad at Sam for putting her in such distress. Also in regards to Liam catching them both.
Hopefully there isn't another bottle of champagne sitting around somewhere or she asks for an apple juice and he brings her again a cocktail.
I agree, I didn't see any problems with Julia/Ellie at the pool with Sophia. Whereas the event with Nathalie did make me frown a bit. The event with Julia was written more comprehensibly than the one with Nathalie. I can't describe it exactly, but the way Sophia reacted to Nathalie before the massage was not quite relatable to me.
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At this level I think we can portray Sophia. A woman who doesn't know herself sexually. Sex is very important to her, though she doesn't recognize it, and the pleasure caused by sex overrides her principles, blocks any other judgement.
She is not a slut, yet , but the intensity of sexual pleasure is that of a slut, it overwhelms her and overrides all other judgement.
Life in a cold city hasn't exposed her to temptation, and with Liam she hasn't climbed too far up the ladder of sexual pleasure.
Interesting that so far she has been the passive side, "suffering" the attacks of perverts, but I think L&P will make her "understand" her needs
She is not a slut, yet
, but the intensity of sexual pleasure is that of a slut, it overwhelms her and overrides all other judgement.Life in a cold city hasn't exposed her to temptation, and with Liam she hasn't climbed too far up the ladder of sexual pleasure.
Interesting that so far she has been the passive side, "suffering" the attacks of perverts
, but I think L&P will make her "understand" her needs 
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Sophia does San AlejoAt this level I think we can portray Sophia. A woman who doesn't know herself sexually. Sex is very important to her, though she doesn't recognize it, and the pleasure caused by sex overrides her principles, blocks any other judgement.
She is not a slut, yet
Life in a cold city hasn't exposed her to temptation, and with Liam she hasn't climbed too far up the ladder of sexual pleasure.
Interesting that so far she has been the passive side, "suffering" the attacks of perverts
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She wouldn't have accepted those advances from Sam even if Liam was not there. Because just an event earlier when Nathalie proposed something outright sexual she flipped. Had Sam actually tried to go down on her or kiss her breasts it would have definitely knocked Sophia out of the mood, into reality.
As of now she doesn't want a lover, as you have also said in your next message she is confused about what she really wants. The binds of a husband and children prevent her a lot.
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I generally am open to different perspectives but recently the way the thread is with people getting offended over any disagreement, I just didn't want to debate any further.No Sabertooth__ , we are not going to argue here. I appreciate many of your posts. They are partly written with a certain background knowledge that sometimes makes me suspect that you know quite a lot about the game.
We're just discussing our "different" points of view. And clearly I'm biased with not liking Sam as a character. Subjectively, that's not an asset. I know that myself.
"Right here you just admitted to what I am saying. You doubt you would be able to control yourself but the married woman who is weak with alcohol still could muster enough willpower to stop it."
What I meant by that is that she (L&P) can't let it get to that point from the beginning. At most a French kiss. And then stop! Enough! She was only slightly tipsy after all
"Even after so many events with Sam really what had happened before the hot tub event. ..A lot of the progress when was internal. "
We don't know much about that now currently, do we? Maybe we'll find out more in the next event. And sure, I don't know if my guesses with fingering, HJ, etc really show up.
Logically, she should be mad at Sam for putting her in such distress. Also in regards to Liam catching them both.
Hopefully there isn't another bottle of champagne sitting around somewhere or she asks for an apple juice and he brings her again a cocktail.
I agree, I didn't see any problems with Julia/Ellie at the pool with Sophia. Whereas the event with Nathalie did make me frown a bit. The event with Julia was written more comprehensibly than the one with Nathalie. I can't describe it exactly, but the way Sophia reacted to Nathalie before the massage was not quite relatable to me.
About the French kiss, in all honesty neither of us can say with utmost certainty, it was not just the alcohol but the desire for the touch. The whole thing is a matter of what the person is feeling in that moment and if feels too nice to stop. I just base that it was acceptable as the dialogues convey the message that she is loving all these intimate touches and is letting go of herself.
I too am really curious to see how L&P will handle the next Sam Sophia event. It was posted here from his comments section on the patron page the next Sam and Sophia event will also be very hot, which is a direct contradiction to Sophia's thought at the end of the event.
Now whether he spoke in context of the Sam Sophia event itself is not known since no characters were mentioned but the person who posted said it was Sam Sophia. And if it's true how will he write the event where Sophia starts of with wanting to stop this and ends with something more sexual. I just hope she is not shown as a needy slut but there some logical development leading to it.
The first thing Liam should do to ensure his wife stays loyal is get rid of the wine bottles in the house. They are his real enemy.
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Get rid of the wine bottles in the house and buy her an Antonio or two
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3 Antonio's with Alyssa at the controlls(Sophia is tied down),that should get rid of any excess energy that Sophia has
Sicne she couldn't handle Antonio on the 2nd lowest level
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As far as I know... and I haven't asked much about Sophia/Sam here because I don't really want to know anything and - current status - I'm not playing this path anymore either... it will continue where the last event left off. First she will scold him and tell, it won't go on like that.
I think Sam will then show his innocent and shy face again
, will talk his head off, reminds her of beautiful past times... and that will make her soft for further sexual acts...Yeah, hopefully she won’t shown as a needy slut.
It would be also interesting to know where the event takes place. Probably not a second music lesson after all... they can drive somewhere with his car....
She has already accepted this
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If Nat had continued, Sophia didn't seem capable of saying no
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L&P told westpod to stop creating fan-art for AWAM. Or maybe that's the joke and I didn't get it.
I'd even go as far to say that westpod's DAZ skills are superior to L&P's (probably why he didn't want him to create fan-art in the first place). But yeah, someone with the same skillset would easily be able to create scenes for L&P. Even if it was "only" the scene creation/rendering for 2 of the 10 updates for PD13, that would already be huge in terms of time savings.And I agree, to me it doesn't make much sense to wait out until next year to contact an artist, and the way this post on Patreon was written is just very vague in general. L&P will "try" to look for a skilled artist and "discuss" with them how to speed up the scene creation? Like..what? That sounds kinda weird to me, and the rest of this post makes it even harder for me to believe that he's actually gonna try to find anyone to help developing his game.
He said it a long time ago and nothing came out of it. Hell, he even mentioned it a couple months ago in this here thread, and if I remember correctly, he also said that there's apparently nobody up for the task. But now, all of a sudden, he's gonna "try" and look for a skilled artist? Bogus.
I personally won't believe it before I see it. But hey, I heard wonders do happen every ~2000 years or so.
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Again the play with her breasts at this point is because she is lost in the kiss. She is too lost to care. To suck her somewhere else would require breaking this pleasure and this gives her time to think.She has already accepted this
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If Nat had continued, Sophia didn't seem capable of saying no
We can truly never say what would have happened but things are as they stand and Sophia was not happy about what he did to the point where she regrets even allowing anything.
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And it will be the first time she is sober with him. Damn! Reading this makes me think she's an alcoholic.