VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[Hlextor]

Dylan will no longer be the reason, no blackmail, if we choose to ask Morello for help, and in order to do that it's mandatory that she show Larry her ass. It's a little weird, it means the less prude Sophia is, the easier it is to get rid of Aiden. I'd even go so far as to say the sluttier she is the easier she gets rid of Aiden.

She will most likely use Morello to finish the tasks in a "comfortable way," as L&P once called it. But she apparently has to make a thoughtful decision to do so. Larry? Could be.

What I'm getting at is, if she/we continues the tasks, Dylan may still be the reason in the 4th or 5th task. She will say that to herself as an alibi... but the more she succumbs to Aiden, Dylan no longer makes sense to see him as the reason for blackmailing her. She is then so depraved, that she loves to do the tasks.

 

[roro]

I was wondering about that because you never hear Ellie referenced as going to the same school. But I can't remember what the excuse was because she should go to the same school.

If I remember correctly, they tried to register Dylan to the same school with Ellie, but his grades were bad and he didn't qualify. I believe it is told during the game's introduction, when they're sitting in the airplane on their way to San-Alejo.

 

[hzjujk]

She will most likely use Morello to finish the tasks in a "comfortable way," as L&P once called it. But she apparently has to make a thoughtful decision to do so. Larry? Could be.

What I'm getting at is, if she/we continues the tasks, Dylan may still be the reason in the 4th or 5th task. She will say that to herself as an alibi... but the more she succumbs to Aiden, Dylan no longer makes sense to see him as the reason for blackmailing her. She is then so depraved, that she loves to do the tasks.

"She is then so depraved, that she loves to do the tasks."

Guys, I love it when someone writes sentences like that. The woman is blackmailed, she feels polluted and humiliated at the moment. My / our decisions have brought Sophia this far and will continue to do so. But now someone writes she is "depraved" because at some point she enjoys the sex that has to be done during the chores. We don't want to see that Sophia resists, that's why we lead her deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole, and if she is exactly the person we always wanted and fulfills our wishes then we call the woman "depraved". Folks, I know that this is not a forum that fights for the rights of women but when I read such sentences I throw up - and disagree.

 

[Atton563]

If I remember correctly, they tried to register Dylan to the same school with Ellie, but his grades were bad and he didn't qualify. I believe it is told during the game's introduction, when they're sitting in the airplane on their way to San-Alejo.

I thought it was because Ellie was a cheerleader and her school has the best team in the city.

 

[Kronos405]

On which platform do you play?
Can you post your "persistent" file?

I use PC and I honestly don't know what the persistent file is. Is that just the log where the .exe is?

 

[Bibifoc]

I use PC and I honestly don't know what the persistent file is. Is that just the log where the .exe is?

Just a file named "persistent" you'll find in your "saves" folder.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I thought it was because Ellie was a cheerleader and her school has the best team in the city.

I believe in the scene with Patricia in the park it's mentioned that in terms of athleticism, it's Ellie, then Sophia, Patricia, Dylan then Liam.

So her skills as a cheerleader also were a factor in getting into the ideal school

 

[Kronos405]

Just a file named "persistent" you'll find in your "saves" folder.

lol this is probably annoying for you but it's not letting me post it here or do I just gotta compress it using 7zip to send it here?

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

I believe in the scene with Patricia in the park it's mentioned that in terms of athleticism, it's Ellie, then Sophia, Patricia, Dylan then Liam.

So her skills as a cheerleader also were a factor in getting into the ideal school

I wonder if, in hindsight, it was a missed opportunity for L&P to send Ellie to a different school. I don't mean this as another complaint, just a 20/20 hindsight sort of thing.

 

[Bibifoc]

lol this is probably annoying for you but it's not letting me post it here or do I just gotta compress it using 7zip to send it here?

Damn you're right. An extension is required. You can add a .txt extension for example or you can zip it.

 

[lockerxx]

I wonder if, in hindsight, it was a missed opportunity for L&P to send Ellie to a different school. I don't mean this as another complaint, just a 20/20 hindsight sort of thing.

maybe L&P didn´t do that for plot.aidan tasks

 

[Kronos405]

Damn you're right. An extension is required. You can add a .txt extension for example or you can zip it.

Ok I just zipped it View attachment persistent.zip

 

[Hlextor]

"She is then so depraved, that she loves to do the tasks."

Guys, I love it when someone writes sentences like that. The woman is blackmailed, she feels polluted and humiliated at the moment. My / our decisions have brought Sophia this far and will continue to do so. But now someone writes she is "depraved" because at some point she enjoys the sex that has to be done during the chores. We don't want to see that Sophia resists, that's why we lead her deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole, and if she is exactly the person we always wanted and fulfills our wishes then we call the woman "depraved". Folks, I know that this is not a forum that fights for the rights of women but when I read such sentences I throw up - and disagree.

Hey, bleib mal locker Landsmann! That's just a guess. You seem to have forgotten that I'm not writing the story. It's just my personal reflection on how things might go with Sophia. Du kannst aufhören zu kotzen.

 

[nexer]

On the first task it was obvious, on the other two Aiden asked if she liked it. He seems interested to get an answer. And I think he will.

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[ancienregimele]

The other choice is that Sophia increasingly actually enjoys the tasks and takes control of how the tasks run and who she interacts with. Sophia is not dominated, she dominates. But that's also something that blackmail fans won't like.

I would hate it so much that I'd stop playing the route. Better to end it via the Don. Dominatrix-lite is something I hope we never see with Sophia. "Feisty" women have been a cinematic trope for 30+ years & it's become predictable, badly-written, charmless & boring. It feels obligatory & a way of compensating for the previous 70 years, IMO. (I had my doubts on this score when she got to keep the bike leathers but I suppose some role-play with Liam wouldn't "hurt" too much).

Those who want Sophia to be less on the receiving end of other people's attentions could find a way forward if she were to be the one initiating a relationship, or a development in an existing one. Sophia choosing when to be more assertive seems more in keeping with the realism aspect to me. There are already hints of this in the narrative.

 

[ancienregimele]

And, I like what @GingerSweetGirl said about the school events feeling disconnected from the rest of the story

It's not completely disconnected. If you play the scene with Sophia & Alyssa in the cafe, Alyssa informs Sophia that Zac has told her about her friend's braless look in class. Sophia's reaction is nice.

 

[Talcum Powder]

It's not completely disconnected. If you play the scene with Sophia & Alyssa in the cafe, Alyssa informs Sophia that Zac has told her about her friend's braless look in class. Sophia's reaction is nice.

I was thinking more like events at the school could be more tied into the daily lives of others rather than referred to outside of it and after.

And it’s a fair point about Ellie going to a different school - totally unnecessary. Just put her in the “Honors Program” which many American High Schools feature, especially those having more upper middle class students. Hell, put the soccer team and the cheerleading squad at the same school too: shots of Ellie annoyed that she has to cheer when Dylan scores or something. (I know that American soccer teams, school based or otherwise, don’t usually have cheerleaders at the games, but nor do Americans tune in for Super Bowl Saturday so whatever).

 

[ancienregimele]

His goal is to dominate her, not necessary to fuck her. He can get off on the power of control, make her do what he wants without even touching her.

I still can't, after the many posts I've made on the subject, get my head round him not wanting to fuck her. Aiden is a 17-18 heterosexual lad, who's also a nasty piece of work. Ask yourself what men want & what they think about every minute of every day, especially when they're young. What thought appeared in the head of every hetero student the first day that Sophia walked into the class, assuming realism was present?

Now, Aiden has some power over a beautiful, sophisticated older woman. It's a fantasy come true, regardless, or perhaps because of, the evil methods he employs. If he didn't want to fuck her, he would, IMO, be one of the strangest hetero male characters in any game I've ever played. That he does want to do more than just have her obey him in a robot-like manner has already been shown in task 3.

Folks, it's easy & has been referred to in several posts. If you don't like coercion & blackmail in your games, just hit the delete button as recommended above, or use the get-out option associated with task 4. If you decide to stay, expect things to escalate & don't feel guilty about the choice. Sophia will get some enjoyment from the tasks, unlike the situation in some other games. As I've said before, I read murder mysteries but I don't think it makes me admire or wish to emulate the perpetrator.

I don't like a lot of things in games or stories. If it becomes too much, I stop playing, or find a way round them as I do with the incest in AWAM. Alternatively, I just ignore it & play forward.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

Cool. nexer did the research. So he has stated in his post what exactly happened.

What research was that? Au Naturel wasnt present on patreon. They demanded PS to remove it from his library everywhere else or change the content of the comic to not have incest, even though it was outside of patreon. It's as simple as that. What do you think happens if Patreon finds out LP is using their platform to distribute forbidden content according to their rules?

And please dont give me a smooth brain answer on how DoL doesnt break any rules, I'm not in the mood of wasting time to teach basic stuff.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

Somebody needs to tell Patreon this is incest with pixels, not people!

Apparently their community guidelines fuck you if you dont follow them outside of patron too lmao. That's some cyber police shit.