VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Notretsam]

Only someone with an invested interest in incest could think that Dylan would make a better choice for the event than Sam. Sam plays to many of Sophia's weaknesses, but Dylan only plays to fans of incest. That clearly shows when the first chance for Dylan points comes up before we even get to know his character, only that he is Sophia's son.

So the assumption that you're an ardent Dylan and/or incest fan isn't unwarranted, even if completely wrong

that is the thing though, I never said anything about who I wanted Sophia to have sex with, so there was nothing to assume regarding that.

I'm not griping, I was genuinely trying to have a discussion with you. My point was simply that, even if Dylan makes more logical sense than Sam, my read of the situation is that L&P is going to hold off on him and Sophia until the very end of the game. While Sophia has interacted with Dylan in ways that are certainly inappropriate in the past, it wasn't until the jog in the park that she viewed him as something more than her son. Meanwhile she has viewed Natalie and Sam (especially Natalie) with a certain degree of romantic interest from the very beginning. So to me, from a strictly narrative standpoint, it makes more sense that Natalie and Sam would progress further and more quickly than Dylan. Furthermore, from a strictly brass tax standpoint, the advancement of Dylan and Sophia's relationship will continue to be held back because it's the center of the game- once it's achieved the game has little else to offer the player.

I've never had a problem with you before, but this conversation has turned very unpleasant very quickly. If I misunderstood your opinion it was accidental, but I really don't want to clutter this thread with back-and-forths. You will probably have a reply, and that's fine, but I dislike it when other members have tit for tat disagreements and I don't want to engage in one of my own. The last word is yours, I really don't want to engage with you further.

didn't seem you were discussing what I was talking about, you for some strange reason focused on who would have sex with Sophia first and presumed I thought Dylan would when I never even said anything, I just corrected that.

End of the day, I don't really care who has sex with Sophia first, it's who doesn't that interests me more.

 

[Sabertooth__]

Only someone with an invested interest in incest could think that Dylan would make a better choice for the event than Sam. Sam plays to many of Sophia's weaknesses, but Dylan only plays to fans of incest. That clearly shows when the first chance for Dylan points comes up before we even get to know his character, only that he is Sophia's son.

So the assumption that you're an ardent Dylan and/or incest fan isn't unwarranted, even if completely wrong

Now this isn't in support of Notretsam's argument but I disagree with your assessment here of Dylan that he only has any meaning because of incest and nothing without it.

Sophia already has a strong affection for Dylan, all that needs to be done is twist that affection into one filled with sexual desire. For Sam this very affection had to be developed. Hence a reason had to be given for why Sophia would even be remotely interested in Sam. Music was chosen in this regard.
And honestly the only thing that Sam really has is the fact that he is in a rock band which is Sophia's weakness. Other than that he too isn't anything special.

And since you said it makes no sense for Dylan other than for the sake of incest. I would like to raise the question, how does it makes sense for Ellie other than for sake of incest. She has Alyssa, Nathalie, Patricia, Vicky, Marie. From mature women to young women, she has them all as options.

Hence why my opinion.

Most of the times for the Hetero route everyone has one of the 3 choices. Dylan, Sam, Zac. Since their routes are more or less similar, different approaches but still the same. For almost every person either one appeals to them while the other two seem like rivals.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I think Sam will get a "real" scene first. And by that I mean Sophia will actively, and purposely do lewd things with him. Not necessarily a sex scene, probably more like an enhanced and sober version of the hot tub scene. I can see Sam confess his love during their next event, Sophia being touched by him (literally and figuratively) and they end up making out again where she let's him grope her and gropes him back. Before, because of course, someone else shows up and Sam goes diving out the window.

That isn't to say Dylan isn't making progress. He's saw more of Sophia than Sam has overall and done the most lewd non-alcohol induced act at the beach. He's gotten to the point where he can grope her more or less whenever he wants too. I think their next important scene will happen in the bathroom, similar to Ellie's events. I don't have any real reason to think that, but the bathroom seems like a convenient place for some lewd progression.

The bathroom does have a lock for a reason

 

[Old Dog]

I actually think the present hairstyle is perfect. To me that hairstyle has become synonymous with Sophia.
Most creators really wish that they can add features or some distinct traits to a make character recognisable to anyone. That's what the hairstyle does for me in respect of Sophia.
So I would be sad if he changes her hairstyle

There will be a choice to keep the current hairstyle

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

There will be a choice to keep the current hairstyle

A poll like that should require a high threshold to overturn the status quo. Sometimes a plurality of votes is ok, but sometimes a poll needs an absolute majority. But in the case of changing something like Sophia's hair, I think it should require a sweeping majority (like 65%+). It's the kind of thing where "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." Unless the vast majority of players dislike something like Sophia's hair, you shouldn't even consider changing it. So the first poll would be:

"Should we change Sophia's hair?"
Yes
No

If 65% of voters choose "Yes", then you run a second poll that offers different styles. If no single option gets 50% of the vote, then you go to a runoff of the top two choices.

That's how I would conduct it at least.

 

[darji]

The bathroom does have a lock for a reason

this bathroom never had a lock because Liam never fixed it XD

 

[Old Dog]

A poll like that should require a high threshold to overturn the status quo. Sometimes a plurality of votes is ok, but sometimes a poll needs an absolute majority. But in the case of changing something like Sophia's hair, I think it should require a sweeping majority (like 65%+). It's the kind of thing where "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." Unless the vast majority of players dislike something like Sophia's hair, you shouldn't even consider changing it. So the first poll would be:

"Should we change Sophia's hair?"
Yes
No

If 65% of voters choose "Yes", then you run a second poll that offers different styles. If no single option gets 50% of the vote, then you go to a runoff of the top two choices.

That's how I would conduct it at least.

I would also make it for high tier patrons only unless L&P picks wisely

 

[Old Dog]

this bathroom never had a lock because Liam never fixed it XD

The lock was fixed by Liam

 

[darji]

The lock was fixed by Liam

not in my game

 

[Old Dog]

not in my game

Why,what would be the point of not fixing the lock?

 

[darji]

No matter what play through you are on, the lock is fixed. On day 18 by Liam which you will see either after the Yoga event or the Alyssa event.

I have not seen Liam in a long time I think XD

 

[Sabertooth__]

I have not seen Liam in a long time I think XD

I don't know, try once to play the scene after yoga or Alyssa. In both cases we have Liam Changing the locks and a very important evidence of the lock being repaired is that the jaccuzi is working. So if you had the latest Sam scene in the jacuzzi in your playthrough then 100% the lock is also fixed.

Since the Jacuzzi was also taken care of by Liam when he repaired the locks of the bathroom on Day 18

 

[Old Dog]

Most probably because this hair does have limitations. From improving his art pov he could be wanting to change the hairstyle. But ofcourse he must consider if his audience likes the present one or not.

Personally I love it the way it is.
Also one poll should do it. Just give them the present hairstyle and the one he wants to change to. If people still vote in the favour of the present one then that's fine.

He doesn't need a sweeping majority to retain the present one. He needs a sweeping majority to replace the present one.

Because people who choose the new hairstyle will not really be displeased if the present hairstyle wins, however if the existing hairstyle loses by a small margin then Changing it will still not be a good idea.

Edit :- in such a poll it would be better if he mentioned a cut off for REPLACING the current hairstyle, like you mentioned 65% or any percentage he thinks fit.

I do like the hairstyle that Sophia has just now(even with its limitations).

 

[Juliano013]

quando é que a próxima atualização será lançada?

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

How does anyone think this is OK? Nothing but teasing, and teasing sucks and is boring. Lots of yakking, no H scenes. This one could not possibly be worse than it is now. Dev doesn't care, he seems to think this should be a nun simulator. He certainly doesn't care what F95 thinks as he said we are "all leeches", but he doesn't even care what patrons think, even when they leave. I think those he still has, it's kind of like a cult. It's honestly a bad game - all Yakking no sex for 3 - 4 years in. If you think there's ever going to be anything good, you got your brain washed bad.

Then I guess we won't be hearing from you anymore. What a pity. Bye Felicia.

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

A poll like that should require a high threshold to overturn the status quo. Sometimes a plurality of votes is ok, but sometimes a poll needs an absolute majority. But in the case of changing something like Sophia's hair, I think it should require a sweeping majority (like 65%+). It's the kind of thing where "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." Unless the vast majority of players dislike something like Sophia's hair, you shouldn't even consider changing it. So the first poll would be:

"Should we change Sophia's hair?"
Yes
No

If 65% of voters choose "Yes", then you run a second poll that offers different styles. If no single option gets 50% of the vote, then you go to a runoff of the top two choices.

That's how I would conduct it at least.

Bald is beautiful

 

[Armensajo]

Is there a walkthrough for "GOOD WIFE" route only?
Thx,

 

[ancienregimele]

There will be a choice to keep the current hairstyle

That's good to hear.

 

[Ruby Tuesday]

Yeah but she always was ready to make out with Dylan in the Pool but then cockblock Natalie showed up XD

I agree with GingerSweetGirl. I really don't think any unhealthy relationship is ever going to seriously develop between Sophia and Dylan, and actually hope it doesn't for the sake of this game's credibility, what's acceptable and what isn't. Sorry if that's disappointing to some. Despite the impending corruption we all anticipate, Sophia's far too much a of a straight shooter in this respect. What may ruin this game is to see Sophia completely relinquish all sense of morals and restraint we have come to accept from her, even depend on, precisely why so many are drawn to this game. Ok, it might be fun watching her losing them, and there may have been certain temptations toward Dylan, but only in the respect of considering the boy's welfare, which is looking up in any case with distractions from girls his own age and the possibility of something initiating between Dylan and Amber, leading to all kinds of possibilities. All in all, Sophia seems to have far too much on her plate anyway, and I sometimes wonder if this woman needs to take a good rest. But maybe not just yet!!

 

[arifarfi]

noone wants aiden events , dev insist on aiden events.
i dont understand the reason of this.
everybody love dylan and ellie but still there is no event on updates.......