VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[hzjujk]

Since the contribution of Randy Klein, who is just as anonymous as L&P and also all other members here, is taken over so uncritically because it fits well to the own opinion, conjures a grin in my face.
I'm not saying that Randy Klein may not know what he's talking about and that he's making valid points, but it's all been said here so many times - so nothing new on that front.
Interesting, however, was the observation of ashitanojoe , namely that the animations in DOL do not exist. Of course, I wonder why L&P felt it necessary to omit the animations there. The reason can only be that the Patreon guidelines prohibit sexual assault or rape. This would mean that L&P is aware of the problematic nature of the scene. That it is not a misinterpretation of some players here and the developer has made the scene exactly, wanted to show it exactly - "a hot scene" with deliberately shown gross sexual assault.
So the Randy Klein post is a double whammy for L&P. There is someone who possibly knows what he is talking about when he criticizes (because he does it professionally??), and much more dangerously, he addresses something that is not even present in the "official" game. No wonder he deletes the post.

 

[palmtrees89]

Since the contribution of Randy Klein, who is just as anonymous as L&P and also all other members here, is taken over so uncritically because it fits well to the own opinion, conjures a grin in my face.
I'm not saying that Randy Klein may not know what he's talking about and that he's making valid points, but it's all been said here so many times - so nothing new on that front.
Interesting, however, was the observation of ashitanojoe , namely that the animations in DOL do not exist. Of course, I wonder why L&P felt it necessary to omit the animations there. The reason can only be that the Patreon guidelines prohibit sexual assault or rape. This would mean that L&P is aware of the problematic nature of the scene. That it is not a misinterpretation of some players here and the developer has made the scene exactly, wanted to show it exactly - "a hot scene" with deliberately shown gross sexual assault.
So the Randy Klein post is a double whammy for L&P. There is someone who possibly knows what he is talking about when he criticizes (because he does it professionally??), and much more dangerously, he addresses something that is not even present in the "official" game. No wonder he deletes the post.

There's absolutely no reason to delete this post when the creator himself is openly talking about his animations. Nothing Randy Klein said is more revealing than anything L&P is saying in his very own announcements and posts on Patreon(except for revealing L&P's very questionable development time of the game). You do realize that L&P published a teaser for his animations, yes? Do we now ignore the fact that L&P came here lying to people about deleting this particular supporters comments, blaming a bug on Patreon? Do we ignore the fact that other people aswell get their comments deleted for simply criticizing development times? You can grin all you want, but much of what Randy mentioned in his comments is not just an opinion, it's straight up facts. Facts L&P is trying to hide by deleting said comments. Again, L&P himself talks openly about his animations, so your arguments for L&P to delete this guys comments are simply not valid.

 

[hzjujk]

There's absolutely no reason to delete this post when the creator himself is openly talking about his animations. Nothing Randy Klein said is more revealing than anything L&P is saying in his very own announcements and posts on Patreon(except for revealing L&P's very questionable development time of the game). You do realize that L&P published a teaser for his animations, yes? Do we now ignore the fact that L&P came here lying to people about deleting this particular supporters comments, blaming a bug on Patreon? Do we ignore the fact that other people aswell get their comments deleted for simply criticizing development times? You can grin all you want, but much of what Randy mentioned in his comments is not just an opinion, it's straight up facts. Facts L&P is trying to hide by deleting said comments. Again, L&P himself talks openly about his animations, so your arguments for L&P to delete this guys comments are simply not valid.

My sand castle does not collapse here. Simply because I have not built one. I take note of your facts, but nothing more. This has nothing to do with my respect for her person, but because this is just a porn game for me, and I let it stay that way. Therefore also the grin.

 

[armion82]

I think after the last update and the marking of the begging of the part 2 of the game. Is finally time for him to start sex scenes. Specially after the last update !

First lesbian sex scene is on PD 15.So probably 2-3 years away.
First and second hetero sex scenes are on PD 16.Maybe 3-4 years away.

My guess
PD 15-1st lesbian-must be Sophia/Patricia.Unless the dev decide to troll us and make it Patricia/her friend
PD 16-1st hetero
PD 16-2nd hetero
-probably one will be Ellie/Logan,after all we will have at least 4 events with Ellie on PD 16
-Sophia/Sam
-or Dylan/any girl except Sophia and Ellie.
PD 16-2nd lesbian-Sophia/Ellie or Ellie/Julia
PD 17-3rd lesbian-maybe the scene we didn't get on PD 16.Sophia/Ellie or Ellie/Julia.
PD 19-4th lesbian-Sophia/Nathalie?Or Sophia/Alyssa?

 

[menatv]

Ok, just played through the 2nd part.

Probably my opinion is similar to others who've played it. Very short update. Though the animations were quite good. And I thought that classroom scene with Jennifer would be worse than it was. No, she really wasn't interested in doing it. But did go along with it. And of course that trope where she wound up enjoying it as she continued to go through with it. As good as the animations are though, I don't think it adds that much to the game. At least as far as the time it apparently takes to add them to version 1.60.

Definitely would have expected more after all this time. I can deal with that as long as the updates are quicker. Which I hope they will be from here on out. Really also hope that it will be much simpler to start from a prior save than some of the hoops you have to jump through to play from that save with this update.

 

[armion82]

Here, you just 'killed' Emma (R.I.P.)

Did you miss the part Dylan/any girl except Sophia and Ellie?
We are sure she is not in first lesbian sex scenes.
I doubt she can be in second or third lesbian sex scenes.
Or at least if L&P values his patrons.

 

[Hotcoupleeasy]

Same argument same positions after every update. Every one has the right to have his own opinion about the game . But there is one fact that we all should know that this game was designed from the beginning to be an erotic slow building story with realistic approach. Requesting sex is out of context and against the basic theme of this game . Sex must come in the right time . The game is full of eroticism ( lesbian, mom son , teacher students etc).
Let's be patient and let's enjoy this unique game which has the best renders and the best story line .
I am sure starting from next update the game will be ( hot ).

 

[CSK92]

Same argument same positions after every update. Every one has the right to have his own opinion about the game . But there is one fact that we all should know that this game was designed from the beginning to be an erotic slow building story with realistic approach. Requesting sex is out of context and against the basic theme of this game . Sex must come in the right time . The game is full of eroticism ( lesbian, mom son , teacher students etc).
Let's be patient and let's enjoy this unique game which has the best renders and the best story line .
I am sure starting from next update the game will be ( hot ).

LOL

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

Next generation will see that.

In their final days maybe..

 

[CSK92]

6 years and still practically no porn in a porn game. I don't understand why people are still supporting this. Is it just the sunk cost, or what?

I supported it because of the erotism. I quit supporting because of Dev. And there many reasons.

 

[THE KING54646]

Milky Momma Will come soon

 

[THE KING54646]

I supported it because of the erotism. I quit supporting because of Dev. And there many reasons.

I supported it because of the porn. I quit supporting because of Fuking time. And there many reasons.

 

[keefer43]

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Nice Beaver - you know you don't get to say this very often despite our well established community here.

 

[CSK92]

I think after the last update and the marking of the begging of the part 2 of the game. Is finally time for him to start sex scenes. Specially after the last update !

If he starts going straight to sex scenes. This game or the dev story is ruined. Its supposed to be about eroticism, slow corruption, slow burn. The issue is the slow development updates and now those long update cycles have even less content. The game itself was a terrific slow burn. Probably the best one out there, but now it looks like developer burn out.

If I was newbie here. I would give this game 5 stars, but after all the above stated issues. Its more of a 3 star and falling more and more with each delay.

 

[MaliPizdek]

next update we see Sophia's puss puss
will Aiden touch it?? or maybe even...

 

[holymoly35cb]

does anyone have a walkthrough to get Emma to tutor Dylan?

 

[Turret]

Same argument same positions after every update. Every one has the right to have his own opinion about the game . But there is one fact that we all should know that this game was designed from the beginning to be an erotic slow building story with realistic approach. Requesting sex is out of context and against the basic theme of this game . Sex must come in the right time . The game is full of eroticism ( lesbian, mom son , teacher students etc).
Let's be patient and let's enjoy this unique game which has the best renders and the best story line .
I am sure starting from next update the game will be ( hot ).

And another poster not getting the main issue: A slow burn game does not mean that the update and development cycle have to be glacial! There are more slow burn games storywise on F95, but they are on an acceptable or even quick update schedule! Nobody around here for longer than 5 minutes believes anything L&P says and an ETA of game copletition somewhere in the 2050s(!) is nothing but a bad joke!

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

next update we see Sophia's puss puss
will Aiden touch it?? or maybe even...

next update Aiden explains the new task and sophia has to choose. stop. if I were L&P I would do nothing else and I would just release the update immediately to try the new update function

 

[FullyAnimated]

next update we see Sophia's puss puss
will Aiden touch it?? or maybe even...

Hope not. Want Sophia's first hot scenes, besides Liam, with someone she likes - ie Sam- rather than becoming somebody's fucktoy.

 

[coffeeaddicted]

I supported it because of the erotism. I quit supporting because of Dev. And there many reasons.

Its a novella of erotic, perhaps. After all the time, it is kind of clear that the game was never intended to be a sex game. Its a game about dialogs and innuendo and choices.
I think the dev was more ambitious than what can be delivered. To me the tags are all confusing because if you look at incest, you will not find much on it.
The black mail part is mostly a tease without any action. So you are waiting for over 6 years to get some action.
I think there are some games that want to tell a story, a real story but are lost in a direction. So you end up with lots of dialogs to support an outcome.
Not sure if there is a scene for the museum, but i said yes, lets meet up. Never happened.
To me, the game is a let down. If it ever will be finished, it will probably not have a lot of sex.
Even the story ark with the mafia boss could have been something, but it seems that mafia bosses are actually nice people. Very understanding people. So no luck there.
Again, some teasing but thats about it. But i realized early on that i am not the audience for that game. Especially if you are looking for some fapping action. So maybe its fine after all.