VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[CSK92]

Its a novella of erotic, perhaps. After all the time, it is kind of clear that the game was never intended to be a sex game. Its a game about dialogs and innuendo and choices.
I think the dev was more ambitious than what can be delivered. To me the tags are all confusing because if you look at incest, you will not find much on it.
The black mail part is mostly a tease without any action. So you are waiting for over 6 years to get some action.
I think there are some games that want to tell a story, a real story but are lost in a direction. So you end up with lots of dialogs to support an outcome.
Not sure if there is a scene for the museum, but i said yes, lets meet up. Never happened.
To me, the game is a let down. If it ever will be finished, it will probably not have a lot of sex.
Even the story ark with the mafia boss could have been something, but it seems that mafia bosses are actually nice people. Very understanding people. So no luck there.
Again, some teasing but thats about it. But i realized early on that i am not the audience for that game. Especially if you are looking for some fapping action. So maybe its fine after all.

Welp, You answered all of my many other reasons LOL

 

[ancienregimele]

That does concern me after he did say that no rape would be in the game, but IMO that scene clearly played out like rape to me. It wasn't kicking, screaming, or kidnapping rape, but it still fits the definition.

I don't think it was L&P's intention to portray a rape. He even introduced that old cliched element of the recipient 'enjoying' the experience. I saw it as a scene in which Sophia could get an idea of her own likely fate, if she continued with the tasks & provide a definite justification, in her mind, for seeking help from the Mafia. What could possibly commend this course of action otherwise?

 

[Alley_Cat]

May I advise to the developer that a DOG model be created? I'm experiencing trust issues with Sophia's family because she doesn't have a pet. I understand that it may take him a year to complete it, but fuck it, it will give it a realistic approach like animation.

Don't know about a dog, but in a conversation with Alyssa Sophia admits to liking cats, but Dylan is allergic.

Given that PD 19 = Tuesday, and Alyssa next appearance in the game is that Tuesday, and L&P himself describs this as a "lesbian sex(ual)" scene, and finally that Alyssa won't have appeared in game for approx 6-7 days (from memory) and thus will have missed a lot of the faster corruption that other potential LI's will have received in that time as the speed of corruption has noticeably increased in the last couple of days. For all those reasons I am convinced that it is Sophia and Alyssa.

In fact I think all SIX of those sex / sexual scenes will involve Sophia, albeit potentially spread across many different routes (so you will need multiple saves to get them all. Otherwise L&P could have talked about the "first " hetero sex scne to be the one in the last update of Jenn and Andre / Aiden.

So any sex scenes between the likes of Ellie/Logan and Ellie/Julia should be additional bonus scenes and not the six scenes that we expect include Sophia. That is assuming we can still take L&P's statement last November 2021 at face value.

Alyssa is due to return on PD17, which is a Tuesday. PD19 is a Thursday

is lesbian path any good?

The Ellie/Patricia content is far ahead of anything on the Dylan or Sam routes

 

[mulerider]

She goes there only if she completed the 4th task.
Then there are 2 previous events that *could* influence what is gonna happen in this event with Aiden:

1. whether she intervene or not in the bonus scene
   • day20_Sophia_prevented_Andre_Aiden_having_sex_with_Jen (intervene) or
   • day20_Sophia_saw_Aiden_Andre_with_Jen_having_sex (stay out of this)
   • not clear why he chose to use 2 different variables when the two are mutually exclusive but I diverge...
2. whether she asks help to Morello or not (and based on the previous choice that could include Jennifer, who is not there)
   • day20_Sophia_asked_Don_Morello_for_help

André will be still pissed for the slap, Aiden for the possible intervention during the bonus event.

The first one *could* probably set the tone of some dialogues, the second one will probably determine the outcome of the event especially if Morello's boys show up. And for example the choice it is mentioned to proceed with the meeting or not might be conditioned to the fact that she has an ace up her sleeve with Morello. Pure speculation but it's just to give an example of how they can influence this event.

Now it seems that this could be the 5th task, something could happen if she decides to meet them.
Or, as usual, Aiden may ask something to have fun with the others and then give her a task for the next time either in school or elsewhere. At the moment everything is open.

It's listed as "meeting Aiden", so it could go either way, he didn't listed it as "5th task" to avoid spoilers or it's just the meeting with some "side action".

I agree, this meeting can go alot of different ways. For myself I don't have that completely unrealistic
Morello in any of my routes. So I'm looking at ......

Sophia dressed like that

No help to show up

Andre pissed of about slapping him, and maybe more pissed off if Sophia interfered
with their threesome/rape

Aiden not alone, it's him, Andre, and 7 others

If, and that's a BIG "IF", if L&P tries to make this meeting even 10% realistic,
there is no way Sophia can leave this meeting in a good way

 

[Talcum Powder]

Some do, I'm aware, but in the end it was sex with a strong element of coercion, IMO, which I base on the lack of any physically strenuous fightback. It was treading a fine line.

It was non-consensual sexual intercourse. In other words, a rape. It’s not a fine line. It’s a big fat line and the scene crossed it with plenty of room to spare.

i’m not putting a moral judgement in whether it’s ok to have that in the game or condemning anyone for their like or dislike/disgust. But don’t give us that “fine line” bullshit.

 

[mulerider]

Some do, I'm aware, but in the end it was sex with a strong element of coercion, IMO, which I base on the lack of any physically strenuous fightback. It was treading a fine line.

I and my wife both would agree that sex though blackmail/coercion is a fine line, yes she could have said "NO",
granted her little brother might have gotten beaten, but she still could have said NO

 

[coffeeaddicted]

Welp, You answered all of my many other reasons LOL

Glad to be of service.
Though i think the game is nice but only for teasing. Mostly. I am probably not into erotic, at least not in a game.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

I and my wife both would agree that sex though blackmail/coercion is a fine line, yes she could have said "NO",
granted her little brother might have gotten beaten, but she still could have said NO

But we don't know if it was going to be a simple beatdown by Aiden. If you replay the scene or look at the screenshots, Aiden said, "I may forget to call someone." Morello claims that Aiden's uncle put some of his men behind bars. So what does Aiden have on Jenny's bro that after she said no, then it went to let us get this over. Was she trying to keep her brother out of jail, and Aiden is using that as Leverage? Either way, she could have said No again, but we already know Aiden's history and his lust for power and control, and his uncle's God-like power with the legal system to keep him out of trouble.

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[Dr.SigmundFap]

I don't think it was L&P's intention to portray a rape. He even introduced that old cliched element of the recipient 'enjoying' the experience. I saw it as a scene in which Sophia could get an idea of her own likely fate, if she continued with the tasks & provide a definite justification, in her mind, for seeking help from the Mafia. What could possibly commend this course of action otherwise?

IDK if that was his intention, but IMO that's how he opened the scene up with rape. It could also give more insight into how Aiden is perceived in her eyes, as you have suggested. But, you can also skip that scene and go to the Morello too to stop Aiden, which as a reader, the bonus scene becomes irrelevant at that point.

If the bonus scene was to play a proper role in Sophia's glimpse into her future with Aiden, I think it shouldn't have been a skippable scene and should have been part of the 4th task.

 

[Talcum Powder]

I and my wife both would agree that sex though blackmail/coercion is a fine line, yes she could have said "NO",
granted her little brother might have gotten beaten, but she still could have said NO

What decade are you living in? Jen said no two or three times before Aiden put the pressure on. So it was a no.

 

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[SophiawantsSam]

Friends can anybody pls give me dylan and ellie saved files... i didnt played it

Thanks advance

 

[mulerider]

What decade are you living in? Jen said no two or three times before Aiden put the pressure on. So it was a no.

you are 100% correct, then Aiden blackmail her about her brother, then she said yes,
but she still could have said no and left but she didnt, it's a fine line

 

[FluffyBunnyCarrotStick]

I mean the scene was rape. There shouldn't even be a discussion on it. She was being blackmailed. As soon as the act starts, that's rape. What happens during that process doesn't negative the fact that she was doing this against her will. It's almost like saying, "Well, the girl got wet, therefore, no rape!" It's kind of an absurd argument tbh. I'm not judging the addition of this content either way, but it is what it is.

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

That does concern me after he did say that no rape would be in the game, but IMO that scene clearly played out like rape to me. It wasn't kicking, screaming, or kidnapping rape, but it still fits the definition.

Also dont forget the attempted rape by the subway thugs, where she barely got away from them with the pepper spray, so i wouldnt put anything past him & we already know Aiden cant even control Dr Dre during Jens rape

 

[Talcum Powder]

Legally Jenny can claim that as rape and actually win the case. But what is causing the rift about the scene is something else. Because there are also things that show Jenny was just as much into it as the others. Ofcourse you can't prove that in law.

But these are the evidences from the scene which make it a bit ambiguous or as is being said, treading a fine line.

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Jennifer herself was interested in Andrew's dick. Ofcourse it is just a fantasy, doesn't mean she should actually do it.

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Just one minute. However we are told in the scene that 1 minute has passed quite a while back before Aiden decided to join. Now the question is if this was all against Jenny's will. Why didn't she stop it herself. It wasn't like she asked Andre to stop after a minute and he didn't.

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Jennifer was in ecstasy and there are few more dialogues in the scene emphasizing that she was also turned on and enjoying this.

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She even assisted Andre in stripping her, is it the sign of a girl being forced to do this completely against her will.

In the end, The way things initiate are clearly around rape, however Jennifer's behaviour, actions , expressions throughout the scene all convey the contrary. And just so no one misunderstands, I agree that legally this will be rape. However what Jennifer is feeling from this and her participation is also reflecting a contrary scenario. Hence why we see the opinions on the scene vary.

Wow. It’s a fantasy game and the scenario isn’t really happening to a real person, fine. But jeezus christobal if your opinion is ambiguous get your fucking head examined.

Teenage daughter comes home from school and explains that scenario, do you honestly think anyone but a retarded pig is going to shrug and say “eh, fine margins.”
What the fuck.