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"But then I question why Ellie would be upset that Logan cheated on her. At the Ellie/Julia event, Ellie even admits that she's finding guys less appealing. And during the next shower, that she only really dates the popular guys for her image and isn't as interested in the sex as much as portrayed. She's still technically a virgin" Alley_Cat

It's the only positive I foresee coming out of this event a reconnection between Dylan and Ellie. In round about ways, you and I are saying the same thing. You're saying Ellie is finding men "less appealing," and dates popular boys. Whereas I have said (somewhere before) that Ellie is into charismatic bad boy types who are a bit older which none of this describes Dylan. Here I think the developer has done a job in that Sex and emotions are not separate considerations for Ellie.

Am hoping in this next event something changes Ellie mindset with boys and discovers her heart is safer with the likes of Dylan than that of Logon. The scene of Ellie/Dylan where Dylan saves Ellie's pictures was the moment they made a truce between each other, and the scene of Ellie/Dylan at the swing was acknowledging the other... though, the Ellie/Dylan at the cafe was a total miss.


If I had to put a $20 on a bet of what comes out in the next release, besides a lot of eye candy, Ellie gets turned on having Dylan looking at her and she discovers Dylan isn't a bad guy and worth a second look. Perhaps a little jealous attention is motivating Ellie too. Fortunately, Ellie's character to be rather impulsive to swing fasted toward a Dylan relationship then Sophia
You really think that Ellie will have that much of a change of heart towards Dylan? She almost tried to kill him! We're not saying the same thing at all.

I'm saying, at least as far as the Ellie route is concerned, Dylan's not even worth consideration. Especially since he's her brother. If there was anyone that Ellie might be more flexible with her dating rules about, it's Sam.
 

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You really think that Ellie will have that much of a change of heart towards Dylan? She almost tried to kill him! We're not saying the same thing at all.

I'm saying, at least as far as the Ellie route is concerned, Dylan's not even worth consideration. Especially since he's her brother. If there was anyone that Ellie might be more flexible with her dating rules about, it's Sam.
I'd normally agree with you 100%, but things have changed and I am no longer sure about anything anymore...
 
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How many hot moms are really out there in real life? By that I mean a mom who has 2 teenage kids but is always the hottest woman wherever she goes. I've seen some attractive moms but I can't remember a time when I saw a mom with two teenagers who was so hot that I wanted to fuck her. Maybe if there were more hot moms like Sophia than the teenage son lust/incest trope would be more common than it is now. Most people immediately think of their own mom when it enters the mind and go, yuck, disgusting, no way, etc. How can we truly know unless we had a mom like Sophia in real life and maybe the son lusting after mom would be more common?
There are more Milf's now than thirty years ago. With the health craze and more options for women to stay fit and get firm after giving birth. Most men with hot wives don't realize the prize they have in a woman who is brilliant, sexy, interesting, and attractive . So, now there are more MILF'S, thank the heavens for these women and I pray the woman I marry will become a MILF.
 
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Tried to kill him?!! She gave him viagra!! She probably got a peek of Dylan soft getting out of shower, she wanted to see it fully erect!
What I'm saying is that the project is so far off of what we signed up for, that you might even be actually not incorrect with your interpretation...
 
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As one of those "beating" on the upcoming update, yeah, the idea had a lot of potential. I just expect it to be wasted, much like I was saying with L&P's decisions regarding Emma.

But then I'm one of those who think any storyline that doesn't advance Sophia with either Liam, Dylan, Sam, Ellie or Patricia is a waste of time. At this point, mainly the Dylan branches and the side jobs.

And this update, as the "bonus" storyline, by definition only has Sophia in a minor role. Catching Ellie smoking, for example.
Maybe another beach day for all, Amber, Neil, Sam, and Julia....Alyssa and Zac, Carl and Patricia, Liam, Ellie, and Dylan. Christine and Emma. Sophia's mother and Father, would be a good set up, for Ellie to lure Dylan to the nude beach and Sophia has to go into nude beach, naked of course, to retrieve him.....Ellie is in trouble!!!!
 
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Tried to kill him?!! She gave him viagra!! She probably got a peek of Dylan soft getting out of shower, she wanted to see it fully erect!
Viagra is a drug that increases blood pressure. That's its mechanism of action. Standard initial dose is 25-50mg. Now depending on what size pill they gave him, he could have had 200-300 mg.

It was incredibly reckless of Ellie, but characters have been doing dumb during Dylan events since the Prologue, so it's really par for the course.

And I did say almost.
 
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So based on all the teasers we've got and every single one of them showing one of the ladies taking a piece of clothing off. I think there is a game of some kind going on, that is crystal clear I feel.

I'm wondering if the game is each woman has to decide to take a piece of clothing off or not, if they don't, they're eliminated. The game keeps going till there is one left and the fact Dylan is there makes the game even more daring, which would explain why Christine invited Dylan to what is clearly meant to be a ladies-only night.

I've always thought this event was designed to help Ellie accept Dylan more in a sexual way, or at the very least accept Sophia with Dylan when she finally finds out about them.

I can't deny that would be a great idea and a fun event, this thought certainly got me more interested in the next update, hope I'm right.
 

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I've always thought this event was designed to help Ellie accept Dylan more in a sexual way, or at the very least accept Sophia with Dylan when she finally finds out about them.
Three years ago I would have laughed you out. In this new era of "A Wife, Mother, Son, Daughter, Brother, Family, Friends And Others", I'd say... it's not impossible. Nothing seems to be. Even my joke about a horse from Patricia's ranch...

So, why not take a shortcut and, instead of progressing paths for the second and third most popular character, throw them into one new path? Vox populi (patronorum), vox Dei...
 
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Three years ago I would have laughed you out. In this new era of "A Wife, Mother, Son, Daughter, Brother, Family, Friends And Others", I'd say... it's not impossible. Nothing seems to be. Even my joke about a horse from Patricia's ranch...

So, why not take a shortcut and, instead of progressing paths for the second and third most popular character, throw them into one new path? Vox populi (patronorum), vox Dei...
I still think the event should be a sleepover that Ellie arranged at their home, so we at least see Sophia but if I'm right, then guess it makes more sense to have it at Christine's home, as no way Ellie would arrange Dylan to be involved in the game.

If I'm right, it does fit in with a wife and mother name, as it may play a part in helping Ellie accept Dylan with her mother Sophia.
 

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You really think that Ellie will have that much of a change of heart towards Dylan? She almost tried to kill him! We're not saying the same thing at all.

I'm saying, at least as far as the Ellie route is concerned, Dylan's not even worth consideration. Especially since he's her brother. If there was anyone that Ellie might be more flexible with her dating rules about, it's Sam.
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Your logic is correct about Ellie as to whom she ought to end up with. However, two things to consider, first The Blue Pill poisoning at the beach was a prank--yes a bad one that is dangerous. Sadly, a lot of pranks are not well though through and people die. And in this case, I don't think Ellie intended to kill Dylan. Second, Sophia is in the way of a Sam/Ellie route. Between Sam and Dylan, Sam's feelings are the most honest while Dylan is an opportunist. A special consideration is the developer themself; it just seems the developer is going to force a Dylan/Ellie relationship--one way or the other.

As to Dylan being a brother-- well Sophia is the mom. Hard to square one taboo relationship with another. From a logistical point of view does anyone want more time spent making a Sam and Ellie route? It's not possible but with so many story threads being killed, the odds are not favorable.
 

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Your logic is correct about Ellie as to whom she ought to end up with. However, two things to consider, first The Blue Pill poisoning at the beach was a prank--yes a bad one that is dangerous. Sadly, a lot of pranks are not well though through and people die. And in this case, I don't think Ellie intended to kill Dylan. Second, Sophia is in the way of a Sam/Ellie route. Between Sam and Dylan, Sam's feelings are the most honest while Dylan is an opportunist. A special consideration is the developer themself; it just seems the developer is going to force a Dylan/Ellie relationship--one way or the other.

As to Dylan being a brother-- well Sophia is the mom. Hard to square one taboo relationship with another. From a logistical point of view does anyone want more time spent making a Sam and Ellie route? It's not possible but with so many story threads being killed, the odds are not favorable.
Sophia isn't in the way of the Sam branch of the Ellie route. Sophia's been pushing it, at least twice already during the showers if you're playing both Sam and Ellie routes. It's through Sophia recommending Sam instead of Logan that we learn that Ellie doesn't date younger guys. Which excludes Dylan.

And on the Sam route, after the concert there's the option to pick Ellie up at the beach after Logan abandons her. So at this point Ellie learns that Sam is a rock musician, and has a car. Don't know what it was like when you were younger, but in my area friends with cars had prestige. Which fits in nicely with Ellie's need to look good and be popular.

A Sam branch also neatly fits into the same model of Sophia's LIs - the good guy, the bad guy, and the lesbian route. In Sophia's case it's Sam, Dylan (and by extension Aiden), then Ellie and Patricia (whose routes are so intertwined you may as well consider then one). In Ellie's, it's Sam, Logan, then Jules.

On the other hand, there's nothing on the Ellie route of Sophia suggesting Ellie pursue Dylan. Only that she stop calling him names like troll, gnome, goblin, etc. You don't even need to be playing the Ellie route to play the bonus storyline. And with the bonus storyline now being mutually exclusive to the Sophia/Dylan branch, there's little chance of Sophia suggesting Dylan pursue Ellie.

Not going to weigh in on whether or not the Sam branch should be scrapped - only that as a Jules fan, I'm not going to be playing it.
 
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