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Sagf

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So basically L&P added wrinkles under her eyes and made her skin a bit rough to make her look older. Thats a very specific change he made. Intresting.
*I'd prefer him to focus more on the story & quick update release, which is never ever gonna happen*
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Yeah, I prefer the story to move forward instead of wasting time in a skin tone, besides Sophia had already some changes, want more? should focus on releasing the updates quickly
 
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Sagf

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So basically L&P added wrinkles under her eyes and made her skin a bit rough to make her look older. Thats a very specific change he made. Intresting.
*I'd prefer him to focus more on the story & quick update release, which is never ever gonna happen*
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May be worse, just some freckes were added to the skin, I like the new clearer skin but I don't see the point, it should be left like that to move on with a good story, it's taking so long, could be faster
 

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Nobody would have noticed her new skin tone that much anyway, I still like her face, ok
Wonder why the dev thought to introduce this seemingly minuscule change this far into the development phase? :unsure: I mean, I can certainly appreciate the attentiveness to the model's details and all...but I feel as if there might be more pressing updates to address (i.e., main plot/story, scripting events, etc)....

But Sophie always has a pretty alluring face nonetheless, I guess adding more freckles gives her face more substance in a sense? Perhaps less "plasticy/shiny" in appeal?
 

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Let LP play around with this model upgrading thing until he's bored. He might be seriously putting effort into editing, or he might just be teasing you :p

Anyway, I have no interest in a lesbian storyline. Who would want to eat dessert while the main course is still not served :cautious:
Plenty of people - me for one.

You guys that dismiss the lesbian storylines seem to forget that Ellie has almost as many fans as Dylan. There were even times during the last poll that she was in the lead.

Which makes me wonder how the votes would turn out if a poll was done after the next Ellie event.
 

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Plenty of people - me for one.

You guys that dismiss the lesbian storylines seem to forget that Ellie has almost as many fans as Dylan. There were even times during the last poll that she was in the lead.

Which makes me wonder how the votes would turn out if a poll was done after the next Ellie event.
I'm interested in Sophia, line up everyone and have them with Sophia, lesbian, straight, group. If Sophia is involved, I'm happy.

I'm half-joking here, I don't think Sophia would go as far as a group.




I know there many complaints about the model and the messing around with Sophia, but remember, the last event with the party was pretty great. It might not be needed what L&P is doing but it might end up being pretty great in the end.

This VN requires extreme patience, like massive layers and layers of extreme patience, it's not like we don't all know that. Still think AWAM some day in the future is going payoff bigtime.
 

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Is there any word on why the Progress Update says Sophia/Ellie, but the events appear to be Sophia/Sam?
 

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Is there any word on why the Progress Update says Sophia/Ellie, but the events appear to be Sophia/Sam?
Some hope that the Sophia/Ellie event takes place in Sophia and Liam's bedroom and that Sam can watch through his telescope from his room across the street and masturbate the entire time.
 

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Some hope that the Sophia/Ellie event takes place in Sophia and Liam's bedroom and that Sam can watch through his telescope from his room across the street and masturbate the entire time.
I don't recall any theories like that, although it does make a little sense. I've suspected for a while that some of setup for the Sam branch of the Ellie route would occur during these morning events.

I am curious, though, why L&P isn't more open about the branch existing at all. I seem to be the only one talking about it.
 

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Is there any word on why the Progress Update says Sophia/Ellie, but the events appear to be Sophia/Sam?
The major event is Sophia/Ellie. They wake up and have a short conversation while doing their morning chores. Then Sophia either waits for Sam to do the cello class or goes to Robinsons house. The cello class will be relatively quick and Sophia will meet again with Ellie and the main event will unfold… In this release we will most likely see all three morning events (i.e. Short Ellie, Short Sam, Long Ellie).

At least this is my understanding :)
 

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The major event is Sophia/Ellie. They wake up and have a short conversation while doing their morning chores. Then Sophia either waits for Sam to do the cello class or goes to Robinsons house. The cello class will be relatively quick and Sophia will meet again with Ellie and the main event will unfold… In this release we will most likely see all three morning events (i.e. Short Ellie, Short Sam, Long Ellie).

At least this is my understanding :)
Which is evidently not the case, since all three teasers so far refer to the Sam event on PD13.
 

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Which is evidently not the case, since all three teasers so far refer to the Sam event on PD13.
You're reading too much into the pictures. If the first images refer to anything at all it is to the events of the night before that Sophia deeply regrets. I think the only thing Sam can contribute to this day is that Sophia can relax a little during Chello class and push away her feelings of guilt.
 

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You're reading too much into the pictures. If the first images refer to anything at all it is to the events of the night before that Sophia deeply regrets. I think the only thing Sam can contribute to this day is that Sophia can relax a little during Chello class and push away her feelings of guilt.
Assuming that you play those scenes. I think what threw me is that there's nothing on the Ellie route for Sophia to regret.

Didn't particularly occur to me that the teasers might refer to events on the Dylan route for an Ellie event, but that is probably my mistake, since Dylan does have a way of sneaking into events.
 
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Assuming that you play those scenes. I think what threw me is that there's nothing on the Ellie route for Sophia to regret.

Didn't particularly occur to me that the teasers might refer to events on the Dylan route for an Ellie event, but that is probably my mistake, since Dylan does have a way of sneaking into events.
Sophia would actually have a lot to regret on the Ellie route! But since L&P obviously feels the same way as you, that lesbian sex (even with your own daughter) is neither adultery nor taboo-breaking, if you only play Sophia on the purely lesbian route, Sophia can go into this event carefree.
But this also means that you miss a lot of context during your playthrough.

And Dylan doesn't sneak in, he was there from the start, even if you did your best to ignore him. (I'm intentionally misunderstanding you here!) ;)
 

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It makes sense if the two short events lead into the main Sophia/Ellie event.

I've said before in the thread that the small event with Sophia/Ellie will be them talking about Logan and why Ellie either broke up with him or why she forgave him. I figure the choices you made the day before will factor into the dialogue, and either Sophia or Ellie will be flustered due to events with Dylan the night before, the other will pick up on it.

I think Ellie will go out but will arrange to go somewhere later with Sophia. Sam will visit as he knows no one home but Sophia will shut him down, and nothing happens. If there was some kind of plot twist regarding Dylan and Sam's paths, this be a perfect moment for it but I suspect it be nothing more than maybe a quick flash or promise of something later.

The main Sophia/Ellie event can be anything as it's Saturday, they could go anywhere but I wonder if it be another massage event that follows the previous one up, or maybe Ellie has dance class and we finally see a follow-up to that. Unlikely but maybe Julia tags along and it is a follow-up to Julia/Ellie at the pool with Sophia.

You would figure eventually L&P start to follow up on some past events and maybe add some plot twists as we all know he did have one in the past.
 
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