VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Whitekink]

Did you pay attention?
Most of the games and stories that go by popular opinion are destroyed

they does it in storie just show boobs to 18th update in 5 years ago

WTF!?

 

[Bishop Robert]

fair point but the twist was Dylan just wanted Sophia to wear hotter clothes, Aiden took advantage of that and turned it into much more. The twist could've actually played into what we saw at end of the last update where Dylan is wondering how far Sophia will go. Also, the twist does align itself with part of the game where Dylan is OK with Sophia with others, or not.

Oh thats what it was? I thought it was Dylan was working alongside Aiden for both of their equal benefit of fucking her, not him just wanting her to dress hotter and Aiden taking advantage of it.

Didn’t people say patreons were against the idea of the twist?

 

[keefer43]

Sophia's tits' row of magnitude.

That's a lot of magnitude brother

 

[Alley_Cat]

Oh thats what it was? I thought it was Dylan was working alongside Aiden for both of their equal benefit of fucking her, not him just wanting her to dress hotter and Aiden taking advantage of it.

Didn’t people say patreons were against the idea of the twist?

The blackmail as Dylan agreed to was apparently only meant to be the first two tasks - it was Aiden that decided 12 would be better. You can see it in how the third task wasn't even at the school, and was more about Aiden being able to trick Sophia. And the fourth task being much more sinister.

There was at least one patron that supported the Twist, but that I think was more about not changing the story to suit fans more than whether or not they liked that particular storyline.

 

[Notretsam]

Oh thats what it was? I thought it was Dylan was working alongside Aiden for both of their equal benefit of fucking her, not him just wanting her to dress hotter and Aiden taking advantage of it.

Didn’t people say patreons were against the idea of the twist?

yeah, I believe patrons said it made Dylan look bad and L&P agreed, since Dylan is L&P fave character he didn't want that.

 

[tofhdns]

Exactly. He listens to the experts. He doesn't listen to the fans of the team. That would be ridiculous.

The voice that product developers need to hear is the voice of consumers.

A product developer can visit his teacher if he wants to level up his skills, but if he wants to sell more products, he should continue to seek feedback on what consumers are interested in and what consumers want.

 

[GokutheG]

yeah, I believe patrons said it made Dylan look bad and L&P agreed, since Dylan is L&P fave character he didn't want that.

I thought he looked bad based on Ellie's interactions with him. Him creeping on her in the car in front of his family also didn't help. Him groping Sophia on the swing was the final straw for me. I really don't see how the twist could possibly make him look worse and it actually fits his established character.

 

[Alley_Cat]

The voice that product developers need to hear is the voice of consumers.

A product developer can visit his teacher if he wants to level up his skills, but if he wants to sell more products, he should continue to seek feedback on what consumers are interested in and what consumers want.

If we're still talking about the Twist, how many patrons do you think L&P really would have lost if he kept the Twist in the game? And even if he lost everyone that voted for Dylan, how many of them would have been top tier?

 

[SuperPerv96]

Just one small complaint, does Sophia have the sun in her closet? L&P and the lighting thing is getting out of hand

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Thanks for sharing.

i Thought the exact same thing, the lighting in the closet its ridicuslosly bright, i dont know why LP loves to overburn his scenes and also the clouths are so ugly sophia would enever wear any of the cloths that we see in her closet, i mean this house its completely awful, if freking gigantic, yet, Sophia doesnt has a Walking closet, Dylan and Ellie have to share bathrooms (i know its for story reasons), and dont have walkin closets either, i mean they have a 3 storie house, and its everything its ridiculosly small what about the rest of the space? and the interiors are also quite plain, it doesnt makes sense with the Parker Family, bc altho they arent as Rich as Patricia and Carl, they are above the middle class, and their house interiors and spaces are middle class

i mean just look at this mounstruosity

 

[PaxHadrian17]

When I was a Patreon and the twist came out, then L&P talked about what to do about it, I offered two thoughts on Patreon:

* Why not keep the twist, but with a different spin. Have Patricia confess that she put Dylan up to it and it was just to help get Sophia out of her shell.

Dylan doesn't admit to this until Sophia and Patricia corner him and he finally admits that this is true. When Sophia asks him why he did not say anything, he can confess that he was trying to protect his aunt and he had no idea that this would get so out of hand.

This would have solved the twist and raised Dylan's status with his aunt (and likely Sophia as well since he was willing to fall on his sword to protect her sister who is the one who she should be blaming).

Of course - L&P ignores so much of what supporters suggest or offer so why would this idea be any different.

* The other point I made to L&P was to identify a small group of supporters who he fully trusted and run major story points by them.

If he had done this ahead of time, there would not have been the need for the twist - L&P's trust group would have been able to stop him from making such an obvious mistake (turning one of the most popular people in the VN into a bad guy and effectively breaking a major part of AWAM).

I recognize that those who dislike Dylan saw this as the perfect opportunity to get rid of him, but L&P was never going to let that happen since Dylan is a major part of the story (think not just the Dylan/Sophia route which I like but the Dylan cuckold route which I don't like).

 

[Bishop Robert]

i Thought the exact same thing, the lighting in the closet its ridicuslosly bright, i dont know why LP loves to overburn his scenes and also the clouths are so ugly sophia would enever wear any of the cloths that we see in her closet, i mean this house its completely awful, if freking gigantic, yet, Sophia doesnt has a Walking closet, Dylan and Ellie have to share bathrooms (i know its for story reasons), and dont have walkin closets either, i mean they have a 3 storie house, and its everything its ridiculosly small what about the rest of the space? and the interiors are also quite plain, it doesnt makes sense with the Parker Family, bc altho they arent as Rich as Patricia and Carl, they are above the middle class, and their house interiors and spaces are middle class

i mean just look at this mounstruosity
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I asked about it before and Alley_Cat confirmed it to me, the front of house is another thing where it looks like it belongs to a small house but then you take in how the house looks in the backyard and its a mansion. All because of two different assets or whatever.

There’s also the kitchen which doesn’t look like something you’d find in this house, unless it was a 2nd kitchen of sorts.

 

[GokutheG]

Why not keep the twist, but with a different spin. Have Patricia confess that she put Dylan up to it and it was just to help get Sophia out of her shell.

Dylan doesn't admit to this until Sophia and Patricia corner him and he finally admits that this is true. When Sophia asks him why he did not say anything, he can confess that he was trying to protect his aunt and he had no idea that this would get so out of hand.

I'm sorry but that sounds like a horrible idea. Why would Sophia be happy with any of them after such a betrayal? Patricia has no need to blackmail Sophia to get her out of her shell just look at the previous events she was able to talk her sister into. The twist only works because Dylan is a horn-dog who only thinks with his dick so when he meets someone who can make it so he can gawk at his mom more often of course he'd take such an opportunity without thinking of the consequences.

 

[GokutheG]

I recognize that those who dislike Dylan saw this as the perfect opportunity to get rid of him, but L&P was never going to let that happen since Dylan is a major part of the story (think not just the Dylan/Sophia route which I like but the Dylan cuckold route which I don't like).

Isn't her relationship with Liam, Ellie and Patricia also important? You can decide not to pursue any of them so what should make Dylan any different?

 

[Lord_Xanatos]

Progress Report Ver. 0.185.

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[palmtrees89]

i Thought the exact same thing, the lighting in the closet its ridicuslosly bright, i dont know why LP loves to overburn his scenes and also the clouths are so ugly sophia would enever wear any of the cloths that we see in her closet, i mean this house its completely awful, if freking gigantic, yet, Sophia doesnt has a Walking closet, Dylan and Ellie have to share bathrooms (i know its for story reasons), and dont have walkin closets either, i mean they have a 3 storie house, and its everything its ridiculosly small what about the rest of the space? and the interiors are also quite plain, it doesnt makes sense with the Parker Family, bc altho they arent as Rich as Patricia and Carl, they are above the middle class, and their house interiors and spaces are middle class

i mean just look at this mounstruosity
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Yeah, this house is easily worth $10.000.000 (well, depending on where you live), but their rooms are tiny. The interior is weird indeed. There has to be like 20 unused rooms inside this house considering most rooms we've seen are the size of prison cells in some countries. That thing is a goddamn castle. Frontyard and backyard look so different that one could think it's not the same house, or different assets are being used.

The closet situation has also been discussed in the off-topic thread yesterday. A house this big with all the luxury (atleast from the outside) should have walking closets, imo.

And yes, L&P is often times overdoing it with the lighting lately.

 

[lockerxx]

Progress Report Ver. 0.185.

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holy shit 10% on animation!!!

 

[rAmSiMaL]

i Thought the exact same thing, the lighting in the closet its ridicuslosly bright, i dont know why LP loves to overburn his scenes and also the clouths are so ugly sophia would enever wear any of the cloths that we see in her closet, i mean this house its completely awful, if freking gigantic, yet, Sophia doesnt has a Walking closet, Dylan and Ellie have to share bathrooms (i know its for story reasons), and dont have walkin closets either, i mean they have a 3 storie house, and its everything its ridiculosly small what about the rest of the space? and the interiors are also quite plain, it doesnt makes sense with the Parker Family, bc altho they arent as Rich as Patricia and Carl, they are above the middle class, and their house interiors and spaces are middle class

i mean just look at this mounstruosity
View attachment 2421959

Just to let you know that in Europe even big houses have small rooms. What for US is big for Europe is XXL…

 

[tofhdns]

If we're still talking about the Twist, how many patrons do you think L&P really would have lost if he kept the Twist in the game? And even if he lost everyone that voted for Dylan, how many of them would have been top tier?

As I said, I did not do site activities when I was a sponsor because I am not familiar with English.

But based on what I did, based on the responses of the users written on the bulletin board here...

Consumers care about a high level of patronage because they want all the information and want to be involved in all the activities.

But give up sponsoring when they feel the risk that no matter how much time goes by, there is no end in sight and that this game may come to a standstill.

A user wrote a story.

"Given that the number of sponsors has increased, but the amount of sponsorship has not increased, the sponsors must have lowered the level of sponsorship."

I suspect that many backers have given up and gone and new backers have filled the vacancy.

I think that's why the amount of sponsorship hasn't changed much compared to the number of sponsors and there are many users who don't know that this game is already five to six years old.

This is why I guarantee that if this game disappears from this site, half the sponsors will be in a year or two.

And if he lose a sponsor who wants a top-ranked character in the polls like Dylan, he can guarantee that the game's developer will lose all of its sponsors.

People are interested in the sub-food only when the main food is satisfactory.
people who are disappointed with the main food are not sitting in their chairs because of the sub-food.

This game developer's activities are business.

There is no long-lasting product that disappoints consumers.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

I asked about it before and Alley_Cat confirmed it to me, the front of house is another thing where it looks like it belongs to a small house but then you take in how the house looks in the backyard and its a mansion. All because of two different assets or whatever.

There’s also the kitchen which doesn’t look like something you’d find in this house, unless it was a 2nd kitchen of sorts.

Front entrance looks more like in a townhouse.

 

[XaGnard]

What is this ?

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After the question was answered, I noticed something else. Why is there a hanger on the floor? Being this careless appears quite unusual for Sophia, i think. Did L&P put this there on purpose, or was this part of some asset he was just using for Sophias bedroom?