VN Completed Onhold Abandoned About Sex Games

[Dudush666]

These days, a lot of different fetishes have bred... And that's not very good... And there were a lot of different games in everything, I did not find a single one that would fully correspond to my interests... Although there are 12k games in Latest Updates... And out of 12,000, I would surely find at least 1 that would please me... but... 99.999999999...% of them either: Visual Novels; Onhold, Abandoned, Inprocess; female protagonist, futa/trans, gay, animals, etc. etc... or just crappy "games"... BUT! There are still a great many games that are supposedly Completed, but this is not something that would be true...

Of course, I have already blown my mind about how to learn how to create games myself, but I don’t think it’s so simple and it would hardly be interesting for me to play what I did myself... And I really want to convey a few simple truths to the games creators... Maybe this will clear the mind for the players too...

I don't even know where to start... I'll probably start with my "favorite" Visual Novels... I understand the authors of these creations, it's probably much easier than making a normal game... Pictures and text! Text and Pictures! Sometimes you can add animation or even the illusion of choice... It's best to use pictures from porn, you can't mess around with animation either... Of course, there are interesting things in VN, where there is a choice, there is gameplay... But there are not so many of them...
But I don't understand the players... Why do they consume these crafts?.. Why do they give VN a high rating, why encourage their creation on Patreon?.. If you love to read... Are the pictures in VN better than your imagination when reading erotic porn literature? If you like watching... Are pictures or videos in porn, hentai or 3d porn worse than pictures and animations in VN?..
Sometimes VN is not called VN and that's too bad... When you turn off the VN prefix in advanced search, you still get this shit... Special thanks to the releasers for this...
I sincerely hope that hack-work like VN will sink into oblivion, where it belongs...

I want to grumble about the tags... Also hello to the releasers...
I think many people are looking for games by tags that are interesting to them... And for example, I'm very interested in the anal tag and downloading games with this tag, I expect it to be in the game... But I often met that in the whole game someone was stuck in the ass once and for all... ANAL!!! The same with sleeping sex, where you once felt someone sleeping or even fucked once and that's it... NTR where you are just a cuckold... Loli where loli is a shorty with a 30-year-old face... Etc. etc...
Well, vaginal sex ... how could it be without it ... it's even scary if it's not there! Most likely there are faggots or women with dicks, also faggots, in fact...
I played... "played" VN, which of course was not presented as VN, there were tags like anal, rape, ntr, group sex... I played, I was waiting for all this and it turned out that all these tags in a bad ending games... Tags because of which I downloaded this game at its bad end!!! Fuck!!!

Female heroine... When we start some kind of game where you can create a character, we create a character that looks like us, or who we see ourselves as, or just a character that we like and most likely of the gender of which we are representatives... Playing a lot of MMOs, I saw this... Of course, there were people who jerked off to their female character, but they were clearly not the majority... I'm sure that girls among sex game players are much less than males... So... Why the fuck are there so many female heroines?!? Well, let there be a female protagonist, so to speak... But make it like you are a demon, or an angel, or a parasite, or a sorcerer, or some other stray that corrupts the heroine and forces you to something... Anything you can think of and think through, instead of associating yourself with a female...

Enough for today... I hope someone writes something somewhere... I apologize for my English and for the ellipsis...
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[Dudush666]

Milfy City
I wanted to poop here too, but it already stinks here... but I didn’t donate to this... game... so for me this is just another craft made by someone else... In general, the name itself already repels me, because I don’t like milfs and I don’t want them... I like teens and this game seems to have them, so why this name?.. I love anal and sleeping and a lot of other things... it’s there, but it’s somehow bad... Here you can leave the house, go to school, go to other places, buy something, work somewhere, etc... But even in your house you can’t fuck 3 girls in all the cracks... But no, it’s better to add everything and nothing to finish... If a woman is drunk or on sleeping pills or very tired or sleeping soundly, then you can fuck her and if you are a pervert like the main character here, you will take advantage of this... you will take pictures, you will sniff panties, jerk off with panties, grope a sleeping woman, jerk off and cum on her, play with her pussy and ass, slide your dick across her lips and fuck her... in the ass and mouth... if all this is there, then you can add the sleeping sex tag, but if not, then no... then the same with anal... if in the whole game you fuck only one woman in the ass or even fuck you in the ass as the main character, there is no need to add the anal tag... although who am I telling this to...

 

[Kamishirov]

People like looking at art, you don't go to an art museum and there's a wall with text saying 'bowl of fruit' on it in which you have to imagine the bowl of fruit. Maybe in a pretentious modern art galley it'd happen, (I wouldn't put it past them) but you go there to see art exhibits. The art aids in fleshing out the story being told. Go to the cinema and close your eyes during a movie, you'll find it a better experience if you also watch the movie.

When it comes to tags, yeah, maybe people should be more anal about things and order tags according to their frequency in the work.

People want to play as the female character for a number of reasons, one reason might be that they want to put the character in certain situations, they want the clean cut female knight to get fucked by Goblins specifically. Some people don't want to play as a Sword Art Online Kirigaya Kazuto cookie cutter "hero", they find that absolutely boring. I'm sure a lot of people would prefer to look at a MC with lovely big tits, people don't have to associate themselves and think that they are the character they're playing. Some might care for the character while other people might have a more deviant view.

I wonder if audio books are books?

 

[Dudush666]

Well, do you play normal games?.. if you have a choice, do you choose a girl?.. Here in the game there is gameplay... you understand... you need to do something, choose something, etc... and it’s unlikely that you need instructions to complete this game... but for games this is often not necessary You don't need to do anything here... and you don't need to choose anything... but you need instructions on how to correctly complete this... game... and I understand the reason for this problem... developers don't want to work, but want money...

 

[Kamishirov]

I have played normal games but I don't game that much at all right now if I'm honest, it's slowed down to a crawl.

In fighting games I might pick a female character.

Blaze Fielding from Streets Of Rage as an example.


I'm sure there are a lot of Cammy/Juri fans out there.

 

[Gtdead]

Some thoughts:

1) VNs as art:
Well you pretty much asnwered your own question there, but the simple truth is that VNs are basically a story telling medium with visual and interactive features.

This allows the creator to combine porn and erotic literature in a package where the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. VNs can introduce story telling elements, action segments, game segments.

Their storytelling scope is significantly expanded thanks to images. It also allows for parodies, mimicry of famous settings/ideas etc.

Lastly they are fairly cheap to make compared to a hentai or a rendered game, so there is more leeway for creative thinking. It's way more risky for expensive mediums to break the mold or introduce more fringe elements.

2) About tags:
I agree that tag misrepresentation is a problem. It's a very loose system for a medium that generally lacks formal reviews and categorization, and a lot of games will just add a scene to justify a tag.

However you should keep in mind that tags are pretty much a free forum service which exists as a guideline, not as a rule. The quality of the related content is way beyond what the tag system is about.

Additionally, while it may waste some of your time, assuming that you played a VN solely for a promised fetish, the chances that this "deception" will increase the developer's income is pretty much non existent so generally, the creators of high quality VNs won't waste your time much.

3) Overrepresented genres:
I have to agree that seeing so many rpgm games with female protags is a funny phenomenon. I think the rpgm medium works best for power fantasies so I can't really explain it. On the other hand, the vast majority of them have low ratings, which may indicate that the creators try to exploit a particular genre through some low effort crap for some reason. Perhaps it's money related? People who like these genres are more likely to support?

However, taking a look a bit beneath the surface, things get even more confusing. For example it perplexes me that there are so many harem games with weak male protagonists. To me this seems like a similar issue. Harems are generally associated with men who are leaders and have the means to support all the women, and they generally require a particular setting to work well, with dystopian, adventurous and violent settings being the more "realistic".

So there's obviously something that we both are missing, some piece that would complete the puzzle.

 

[Liquid Tube Technology]

The impression I've gotten upon reading this thread so far is that you're basically just ranting based on your personal preferences. And that's alright to me, because we all need to rant from time to time. But one thing to keep in mind is that what you PERSONALLY want out of a game, or a VN, isn't the same for the next person. The next guy might have a much more lenient attitude toward Visual Novels being perceived as games, as I myself might for example. They might have a much more appreciative stance on the tags being a bit, for the lack of a better term, "trigger sensitive", as I might at times, again, for example.

I personally choose the games/VN's I play based on some of the very things that you've mentioned and blamed above in your posts. For example, I might be looking for a decent VN to play, and might come across something. This game might come with tags that I personally don't like, such as "male domination", "rape", "corruption", "cheating", or whatever. But more often than not, those terms might be used in a "loose" manner so to speak, and/or are also avoidable, in which case I'd be more comfortable with the notion of going forward to trying those games out. In fact, sometimes I feel a bit put off when these "kinks" aren't avoidable. I have played games, or one might refer to them as visual novels with some game elements (typically utilizing the sandbox format), where the sex themes follow the provided tags too closely for my liking, thus forcing me to skip through nearly EVERY sex scene quickly just so that I can continue to enjoy the story as a whole. But then I try not to whine at length about things like that, because I understand some people are indeed into these kinks. Plus, I knew the risks and still went ahead and played those simply based on my own wishful thinking that some of the tags could be avoidable, so in the end it's nobody's fault but my own if I end up not liking them.

When I do start complaining about certain aspects about these games (and I do complain a lot, trust me!), however, it does seem to come out as a form of ranting, which essentially is directed at the current system, or the social climate itself, rather than at the individual game developers themselves. This is because there still are developers out there who have created games that I can really enjoy. Even when some of the elements within these games might not be to my liking exactly, (such as the characters having big boobs in my case), if there are also other elements that line up with my personal preferences and thus overshadow the things I may perceive as "not desirable", then I might likely enjoy the playing experience in a more general, broader sense. For me, there have been many games like that. Some are straight-up VN's, others with some sandbox, point-and-click, combat type situations. To me, the latter are "game" enough.

But this is exactly the moral of the story here. In everything, there are a lot of things that you as an individual might find as "mediocre", and then there are a handful that you find to be "really good", while there may also be those that fall in between the two. To be fair, there are also many that you may find to be "pretty bad" as well, but if your general outlook is to focus on what you don't like, then you'll always be disappointed. Had I focused on the breast size aspect alone for example, then I wouldn't have been able to enjoy Leap of Faith, or Now & Then, or Once in a Lifetime. But I cite those as some of my favourite games because of the stories, how charming the romantic interests are, and the way I've been able to "self-insert" as the MC. I can let slide the fact that the MC of Leap of Faith looks older than someone in his twenties, or the fact that the MC of Once in the Lifetime can be too horny for his own good sometimes, or the penis of Now & Then's MC is way huge, because there are other aspects that help overshadow those things, enough to where I can actually really get into the stories and have a marvelous time experiencing them.

 

[Dudush666]

Pale Carnations [Ch. 4 Update 3] [Mutt & Jeff]

Chapter 4 Update 3... The “game” is in second place in terms of rating on the site... out of 15k games... and it’s not finished... 8 gigs...
I don’t understand people who love VN... Isn’t it better to read books or watch videos??? Games should have gameplay!!! If I’m not interested, and I wasn’t interested, then I don’t read what the characters are chatting about, but simply rewind the entire text, only when making a choice I try to understand what they’re talking about... How do people choose a game... Probably by pictures and tags, and by rating too (although apparently this is not an indicator at all)... The pictures here seem to be okay, and the tags are normal... And so you look at pretty girls and on the tags and you think that with these girls they will do what is indicated in the tags... But I didn’t notice any anal here and group sex too... But I saw a lot of kissing, sucking tits, licking pussies and hugging... Fucking romance... Pissing romance... Shitty romance... Is this a porn game or some kind of light romantic erotica??? It seems that in erotica there is no bukkake or pissing on girls... What is this then??? Are games made by virgins or what??? If a woman agrees to sex, then you don’t need to suck tits and lick pussy, you can fuck her right away... So this “game” is not about sex, but telling some kind of crazy story...
I liked one girl, 2 more or less, I didn’t like the rest at all... And why are they so old?.. Okay, one is 19, the other is 22, the rest are 32, 34, 36, 46, 54... You saw the author women 54 years old?.. Do you think they look like this?.. Milf hunters are another disease of game makers... It is clear that everyone has their own fetishes, but not everyone loves milfs...
Well, how can you evaluate this?.. The game is unfinished, the author’s fetishes are not to my taste, the tags that I fell for are absent or exist in a minimal amount, I didn’t like this story, and in general I hate VN... Bad... 2 stars... out of pity only...

 

[Dudush666]

Some thoughts:

1) VNs as art:
Well you pretty much asnwered your own question there, but the simple truth is that VNs are basically a story telling medium with visual and interactive features.

This allows the creator to combine porn and erotic literature in a package where the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. VNs can introduce story telling elements, action segments, game segments.

Their storytelling scope is significantly expanded thanks to images. It also allows for parodies, mimicry of famous settings/ideas etc.

Lastly they are fairly cheap to make compared to a hentai or a rendered game, so there is more leeway for creative thinking. It's way more risky for expensive mediums to break the mold or introduce more fringe elements.

2) About tags:
I agree that tag misrepresentation is a problem. It's a very loose system for a medium that generally lacks formal reviews and categorization, and a lot of games will just add a scene to justify a tag.

However you should keep in mind that tags are pretty much a free forum service which exists as a guideline, not as a rule. The quality of the related content is way beyond what the tag system is about.

Additionally, while it may waste some of your time, assuming that you played a VN solely for a promised fetish, the chances that this "deception" will increase the developer's income is pretty much non existent so generally, the creators of high quality VNs won't waste your time much.

3) Overrepresented genres:
I have to agree that seeing so many rpgm games with female protags is a funny phenomenon. I think the rpgm medium works best for power fantasies so I can't really explain it. On the other hand, the vast majority of them have low ratings, which may indicate that the creators try to exploit a particular genre through some low effort crap for some reason. Perhaps it's money related? People who like these genres are more likely to support?

However, taking a look a bit beneath the surface, things get even more confusing. For example it perplexes me that there are so many harem games with weak male protagonists. To me this seems like a similar issue. Harems are generally associated with men who are leaders and have the means to support all the women, and they generally require a particular setting to work well, with dystopian, adventurous and violent settings being the more "realistic".

So there's obviously something that we both are missing, some piece that would complete the puzzle.

15,000 “games” here... and about 70% of them are just garbage... well +-... abandoned, on hold, half-finished or really garbage... A person who wants a porn game wants a porn game... If a person needs romance or something like that... I think it needs to be looked elsewhere...

The admins here several times deleted my ratings for games, for some reason... Although I just wanted to evaluate the game, and not review it... They have time for that, but to add the VN prefix where there is none, or remove unnecessary tags, they just won’t think of it... Regarding the harem, etc... To write a sensible story, you need to be a writer, to write the characters, come up with a story, etc... And the game makers here are unlikely to combine everything necessary... As for me, a harem is good, but not interesting... It’s much better, for example, to live in a house with girlfriends/sisters, peep, do dirty tricks, corrupt and then get the fruits from it...

I know what’s missing... More precisely, what prevents you from playing a normal porn game... It’s the greed and stupidity of the developers... And of course there are a lot of fetishes... If everything was based on ordinary girls, then everything would be cool... but there are also gays, trannies, animal hunters, etc., etc....

 

[Dudush666]

The impression I've gotten upon reading this thread so far is that you're basically just ranting based on your personal preferences. And that's alright to me, because we all need to rant from time to time. But one thing to keep in mind is that what you PERSONALLY want out of a game, or a VN, isn't the same for the next person. The next guy might have a much more lenient attitude toward Visual Novels being perceived as games, as I myself might for example. They might have a much more appreciative stance on the tags being a bit, for the lack of a better term, "trigger sensitive", as I might at times, again, for example.

I personally choose the games/VN's I play based on some of the very things that you've mentioned and blamed above in your posts. For example, I might be looking for a decent VN to play, and might come across something. This game might come with tags that I personally don't like, such as "male domination", "rape", "corruption", "cheating", or whatever. But more often than not, those terms might be used in a "loose" manner so to speak, and/or are also avoidable, in which case I'd be more comfortable with the notion of going forward to trying those games out. In fact, sometimes I feel a bit put off when these "kinks" aren't avoidable. I have played games, or one might refer to them as visual novels with some game elements (typically utilizing the sandbox format), where the sex themes follow the provided tags too closely for my liking, thus forcing me to skip through nearly EVERY sex scene quickly just so that I can continue to enjoy the story as a whole. But then I try not to whine at length about things like that, because I understand some people are indeed into these kinks. Plus, I knew the risks and still went ahead and played those simply based on my own wishful thinking that some of the tags could be avoidable, so in the end it's nobody's fault but my own if I end up not liking them.

When I do start complaining about certain aspects about these games (and I do complain a lot, trust me!), however, it does seem to come out as a form of ranting, which essentially is directed at the current system, or the social climate itself, rather than at the individual game developers themselves. This is because there still are developers out there who have created games that I can really enjoy. Even when some of the elements within these games might not be to my liking exactly, (such as the characters having big boobs in my case), if there are also other elements that line up with my personal preferences and thus overshadow the things I may perceive as "not desirable", then I might likely enjoy the playing experience in a more general, broader sense. For me, there have been many games like that. Some are straight-up VN's, others with some sandbox, point-and-click, combat type situations. To me, the latter are "game" enough.

But this is exactly the moral of the story here. In everything, there are a lot of things that you as an individual might find as "mediocre", and then there are a handful that you find to be "really good", while there may also be those that fall in between the two. To be fair, there are also many that you may find to be "pretty bad" as well, but if your general outlook is to focus on what you don't like, then you'll always be disappointed. Had I focused on the breast size aspect alone for example, then I wouldn't have been able to enjoy Leap of Faith, or Now & Then, or Once in a Lifetime. But I cite those as some of my favourite games because of the stories, how charming the romantic interests are, and the way I've been able to "self-insert" as the MC. I can let slide the fact that the MC of Leap of Faith looks older than someone in his twenties, or the fact that the MC of Once in the Lifetime can be too horny for his own good sometimes, or the penis of Now & Then's MC is way huge, because there are other aspects that help overshadow those things, enough to where I can actually really get into the stories and have a marvelous time experiencing them.

For me everything is easy and simple to the point of disgrace, I am a man and I like women, a woman has 3 holes so that I can be satisfied...

If you make a game, a game and not tell some kind of story, then when it comes to sex in the GAME, I probably rightly expect that as a player I will decide how the sex will happen... or am I wrong?..

Well, everything is correct... There should be variability, so that the player can choose how everything should be, and not just watch how the characters themselves start fucking and everything else...

Big real breasts are not a problem... well, let them be... but a huge udder and a huge ass are already an ugliness and I don’t want to play like that at all... I look for games...

I look at the screenshots and tags... I see that the screenshots are attractive to me and the tags correspond to my fetishes... And then I download and play the game... And only when I understand that the tags were only to attract attention, I start it’s fair to be angry... As I already wrote somewhere... Take the usual VN with romance and so on, where there is only a kiss, hugs and, say, a handjob... But you can add a bad ending to the game, where the main character, a man, is animatedly raped in the ass while he sleeps. .. And now you can add a few new tags... animation, rape, anal, sleeping... And why not, right?..

I'm clicking on the Latest Updates, Weighted Rating, and damn the first 18 VN games... or Ren'Py, which is most likely also a VN... But on this site there is a game much better than the fucking VN, but they have lower ratings... Games where there is some then the choice, some kind of gameplay, turns out to be worse than the stinking narration of an idiotic story...

Using a platform for creating games to tell some kind of mediocre, vulgar story... this is a perversion...

 

[Dudush666]

People like looking at art, you don't go to an art museum and there's a wall with text saying 'bowl of fruit' on it in which you have to imagine the bowl of fruit. Maybe in a pretentious modern art galley it'd happen, (I wouldn't put it past them) but you go there to see art exhibits. The art aids in fleshing out the story being told. Go to the cinema and close your eyes during a movie, you'll find it a better experience if you also watch the movie.

When it comes to tags, yeah, maybe people should be more anal about things and order tags according to their frequency in the work.

People want to play as the female character for a number of reasons, one reason might be that they want to put the character in certain situations, they want the clean cut female knight to get fucked by Goblins specifically. Some people don't want to play as a Sword Art Online Kirigaya Kazuto cookie cutter "hero", they find that absolutely boring. I'm sure a lot of people would prefer to look at a MC with lovely big tits, people don't have to associate themselves and think that they are the character they're playing. Some might care for the character while other people might have a more deviant view.

I wonder if audio books are books?

There is literature, there is cinema, there are games... VN is nothing and everything at once... cheap crap... And I would with great pleasure forget about the existence of this crap if all VN were marked like this and there would not be one among them normal games...

And VN is not an art... Would you call a child’s daub on a canvas or the playing of a guitar/violin by someone who doesn’t know how to play an art?.. I don’t think so... Do you think these developers are good at everything?.. Absolutely not...

The heroine is a woman... let it be... but say that you are a demon or a parasite or a sorcerer or someone else who controls her and forces her to do different things... isn’t that better?.. of course it’s better, but almost no one does that. .. there are only women who need to be controlled... and I’m not interested in playing a whore... I want to fuck whores, not manage them...

There is no need to justify the idiocy of the developers...

 

[TM | Twisted Games]

For somebody who doesn't like VNs, you spend a great deal of your time playing and then whingeing about them. Can't be great for your blood pressure.

 

[Dudush666]

For somebody who doesn't like VNs, you spend a great deal of your time playing and then whingeing about them. Can't be great for your blood pressure.

There is a game Chloe 18 Fake Family... it is written that it is a VN... but there is gameplay and different choices, like... And several more games worthy among the VN... That's the only reason I'm letting the VN surprise me right now.. But in most cases, these “games” annoy me... Not because I personally don’t like this or that... But because it’s just a mockery of common sense... In 90% of cases, VN is not a game at all, but just pictures and text... A stupid narration of some stupid story in which you take no part... or take minimal part... and that's half the trouble... There are also tags... which are no less annoying than VN ... There is a game... not VN, supposedly... and there are tags anal, rape, group sex, etc.... as far as I remember... and the rating is great... Well, I think the game is good ... I start playing, go through this game and it turns out that this is practically a VN and all the tags that I fell for are only in the bad ending... And what should I have said then?.. Many thanks to the author or releaser?.. I can rant about VN and other gaming garbage for hours, so I'll stop for now...

 

[Deleted member 6560996]

15,000 “games” here... and about 70% of them are just garbage... well +-... abandoned, on hold, half-finished or really garbage... A person who wants a porn game wants a porn game... If a person needs romance or something like that... I think it needs to be looked elsewhere...

The admins here several times deleted my ratings for games, for some reason... Although I just wanted to evaluate the game, and not review it... They have time for that, but to add the VN prefix where there is none, or remove unnecessary tags, they just won’t think of it... Regarding the harem, etc... To write a sensible story, you need to be a writer, to write the characters, come up with a story, etc... And the game makers here are unlikely to combine everything necessary... As for me, a harem is good, but not interesting... It’s much better, for example, to live in a house with girlfriends/sisters, peep, do dirty tricks, corrupt and then get the fruits from it...

I know what’s missing... More precisely, what prevents you from playing a normal porn game... It’s the greed and stupidity of the developers... And of course there are a lot of fetishes... If everything was based on ordinary girls, then everything would be cool... but there are also gays, trannies, animal hunters, etc., etc....

One day I just wonder why there's no adult games, and I found Parental Love. After playing it, I just can't believe because it was brand new genre to me. Then, when I search parental love again, I found other adult games and websites, this site is included.

Well, I was playing mom-son aunt-nephew incest games like there's no tomorrow! Then, the thing is happened... When I search for another incest game that is suitable for my kinks, I can't find anymore. Even if I can find, it's probably v0.001 and get abandoned after a few months or just cuck shit.

So, you can cry all day long here why 15.000 shitty "game" exist while most of them garbage or just take the goddamn red pill and move on.

 

[Dudush666]

One day I just wonder why there's no adult games, and I found Parental Love. After playing it, I just can't believe because it was brand new genre to me. Then, when I search parental love again, I found other adult games and websites, this site is included.

Well, I was playing mom-son aunt-nephew incest games like there's no tomorrow! Then, the thing is happened... When I search for another incest game that is suitable for my kinks, I can't find anymore. Even if I can find, it's probably v0.001 and get abandoned after a few months or just cuck shit.

So, you can cry all day long here why 15.000 shitty "game" exist while most of them garbage or just take the goddamn red pill and move on.

you know... I can eat, I can sleep, I don't think about it all the time, I have other hobbies besides porn games... but when you step on shit, you just move on or swear and wipe the shit on the grass for example ?.. I want to share my indignation and maybe crap something together with someone...

 

[Liquid Tube Technology]

For me everything is easy and simple to the point of disgrace, I am a man and I like women, a woman has 3 holes so that I can be satisfied...

I think it's clear you and I want different experiences from these forms of entertainment. You want three holes. I want stories and the self-immersive experience. You want porn games. I want games/VN's that also have some adult elements. You don't have to keep complaining about the genre that doesn't satisfy you. Just focus on the ones that do and enjoy those.

If you make a game, a game and not tell some kind of story, then when it comes to sex in the GAME, I probably rightly expect that as a player I will decide how the sex will happen... or am I wrong?..

If you're talking about a sex game strictly, where there is no actual storyline to it, and your sole objective is to control your character in how the sex should happen, then you're right. But I haven't really played VN's that are like that to be honest, mostly because that's not what I look for in these things. The ones I've enjoyed experiencing typically have at least passable storylines and different endings based on the decisions made.

I look for games...

Games. Got it. That means you should probably shift your focus away from VN's. You're talking to a guy that often plays VN's with walkthroughs to ensure he gets the ending he wants. Yep, that's me, lol.

I look at the screenshots and tags... I see that the screenshots are attractive to me and the tags correspond to my fetishes... And then I download and play the game... And only when I understand that the tags were only to attract attention, I start it’s fair to be angry...

I personally look at the screenshots more than the tags. What I actually pay attention to is the plot summary. That, and people's reviews and related posts to a degree. The rating can also help to a degree as well. Honestly, it's the combination of all of those things that help me make the decision as to whether or not I want to play something.

Take the usual VN with romance and so on, where there is only a kiss, hugs and, say, a handjob... But you can add a bad ending to the game, where the main character, a man, is animatedly raped in the ass while he sleeps. .. And now you can add a few new tags... animation, rape, anal, sleeping... And why not, right?..

Wait, are we talking about a VN that has a slow-progressing story, or a game that has bad ending? Or, are you using the terms "VN" and "game" interchangeably now?

I'm clicking on the Latest Updates........

Well, one thing I avoid doing is playing VN's/games that haven't already been completed. I'd rather wait until the project is actually finished before I start playing it, so that I wouldn't have to wait months for a new update to become available. For this reason, I actually don't mind the "abandoned" stuff, because those might as well be sort of "pseudo-completed" since the likelihood of further updates coming in is slim. That doesn't mean I've lost hope on some of those ("A.O.A Academy" and "Our Fate - A new Family" are too good to be left unfinished in my opinion), but at least I've been able to experience some good stories. And, once again, "good" is subjective here.

 

[Dudush666]

I think it's clear you and I want different experiences from these forms of entertainment. You want three holes. I want stories and the self-immersive experience. You want porn games. I want games/VN's that also have some adult elements. You don't have to keep complaining about the genre that doesn't satisfy you. Just focus on the ones that do and enjoy those.



If you're talking about a sex game strictly, where there is no actual storyline to it, and your sole objective is to control your character in how the sex should happen, then you're right. But I haven't really played VN's that are like that to be honest, mostly because that's not what I look for in these things. The ones I've enjoyed experiencing typically have at least passable storylines and different endings based on the decisions made.



Games. Got it. That means you should probably shift your focus away from VN's. You're talking to a guy that often plays VN's with walkthroughs to ensure he gets the ending he wants. Yep, that's me, lol.



I personally look at the screenshots more than the tags. What I actually pay attention to is the plot summary. That, and people's reviews and related posts to a degree. The rating can also help to a degree as well. Honestly, it's the combination of all of those things that help me make the decision as to whether or not I want to play something.



Wait, are we talking about a VN that has a slow-progressing story, or a game that has bad ending? Or, are you using the terms "VN" and "game" interchangeably now?



Well, one thing I avoid doing is playing VN's/games that haven't already been completed. I'd rather wait until the project is actually finished before I start playing it, so that I wouldn't have to wait months for a new update to become available. For this reason, I actually don't mind the "abandoned" stuff, because those might as well be sort of "pseudo-completed" since the likelihood of further updates coming in is slim. That doesn't mean I've lost hope on some of those ("A.O.A Academy" and "Our Fate - A new Family" are too good to be left unfinished in my opinion), but at least I've been able to experience some good stories. And, once again, "good" is subjective here.

I'm already tired of repeating, there is such a VN as Chloe 18 fake family... There you move around the house, communicate with the residents/fuck them, go to a large map, move around it, also choose where to go, choose who to play with, choose what to do in school, you choose who and where to fuck... But there is also another “game” without the VN prefix, Braveheart Academy... Good rating, good tags, good screenshots... But as it turned out, this is an ordinary VN and the tags for which I I only played in the bad ending... Therefore, I admit that even among the VN there can be a good game... Because among the regular games I have already watched everything interesting for me...

Any game has a plot, if it’s not some kind of sex simulator... Chloe 18 fake family has a plot and Braveheart Academy too, they all have it... Do you think the creators of VN are good writers?.. I absolutely don’t think so ... I don't even want to think about it now...

Yes, there is no friend to the taste and color... I can accept VN, if you are doing something there, you need to seduce the girl, using the skills that you yourself developed and of course choosing how to fuck the girl... Well, that shit where you just hold down the ctrl key, where the characters start fucking on their own... it’s better to read a book or watch a movie...

 

[GNVE]

When it comes to tags, yeah, maybe people should be more anal about things and order tags according to their frequency in the work.

This legit made me laugh...

The admins here several times deleted my ratings for games, for some reason...

Based on what you write in this thread I can imagine several reasons. Kink shaming is frowned upon for instance...
You sound very frustrated that you are not king of the world and not everyone caters to you personally. That the whole world is against you or something. This whole thread makes you sound like some kind of angsty teen who is frustrated that he is not the centre of the universe.

You are not forced to be on this site. You are not forced to play the games/VNs/Kinetic Novels. If this is not for you than go enjoy other things.

 

[Dudush666]

This legit made me laugh...


Based on what you write in this thread I can imagine several reasons. Kink shaming is frowned upon for instance...
You sound very frustrated that you are not king of the world and not everyone caters to you personally. That the whole world is against you or something. This whole thread makes you sound like some kind of angsty teen who is frustrated that he is not the centre of the universe.

You are not forced to be on this site. You are not forced to play the games/VNs/Kinetic Novels. If this is not for you than go enjoy other things.

What genius thought of mixing a game rating with its review?.. I didn’t want to do any reviews, but I need to write at least 200 characters, it seems... And if I don’t like something, I need to swallow it?.. but how? freedom of speech, etc.?

Yes, I am the king of all kings, kiss my feet... You get personal and try to imagine something about me... I can do that too, you know... For example, you are a forty-year-old virgin who has never even stood next to a girl, but you want this romance and you find it in VN...

There are sites where there are only VN, and there are VN where there is gameplay and some kind of choice... Therefore, I am looking for something to play even among VN... And if you like to read and watch, watch and read, then watch and read... Watch videos, read books, why do you even bother with games... And if this topic is not for you, then what the hell are you doing here?..

 

[Liquid Tube Technology]

I'm already tired of repeating, there is such a VN as Chloe 18 fake family... There you move around the house, communicate with the residents/fuck them, go to a large map, move around it, also choose where to go, choose who to play with, choose what to do in school, you choose who and where to fuck... But there is also another “game” without the VN prefix, Braveheart Academy... Good rating, good tags, good screenshots... But as it turned out, this is an ordinary VN and the tags for which I I only played in the bad ending... Therefore, I admit that even among the VN there can be a good game... Because among the regular games I have already watched everything interesting for me...

Any game has a plot, if it’s not some kind of sex simulator... Chloe 18 fake family has a plot and Braveheart Academy too, they all have it... Do you think the creators of VN are good writers?.. I absolutely don’t think so ... I don't even want to think about it now...

Yes, there is no friend to the taste and color... I can accept VN, if you are doing something there, you need to seduce the girl, using the skills that you yourself developed and of course choosing how to fuck the girl... Well, that shit where you just hold down the ctrl key, where the characters start fucking on their own... it’s better to read a book or watch a movie...

I have read positive things about the Chloe 18 series. I doubt I'd actually play those because I generally stick with the male MC stuff, but the thought has occurred before. So, I'm not saying "never" to that idea. Braveheart Academy has been on my radar for a while now, though. In fact, I may give it a try soon. I'm guessing that I'll likely enjoy the playing experience more than you did, based on my preferences.

Again, what's good or bad writing is all subjective. Personally, I think there are some good writers of VN's out there. DriftyGames did a fantastic job with "Leap of Faith", and "Now & Then" by ILS Productions is also really good. Ptolemy's "Alexandra" is actually not too shabby at all either. I feel like there are VN's that have storylines good enough to be made into TV series, or films (considering some of today's TV series and movies leave a lot to be desired). But, that's my PERSONAL opinion. The next guy might completely disagree, and I have absolutely no control over that. The only thing you can do is to appreciate the VN's/games you actually enjoy.

Reading is good, and so is watching movies. It may be because I generally focus on the 3D stuff, but VN's, to me, are something else entirely. They offer a similar experience to reading comicbooks, but the visual is in 3D and many of those also come with audio which is a plus. I'm not particularly after the porn aspect of it. I'm more interested in the story and whether or not I can "self-insert" so that I can experience the story from the MC's perspective. I prefer the romantic, vanilla stuff with a likeable (but not spineless) male MC for this very reason.