VN Ren'Py Accord [v0.3d] [Messiah]

[FutaSeekerInParadise69]

I get what you're saying about the sub path, but I see it a bit differently. While you are right that there's no reason for Mia to trust Valerie over Red Mia, the sub path (so far) is about wanting to be free of Red Mia. So even though Valerie admitted to being the reason why she awakened, Mia now sees submitting to her as the only remaining option to achieve that goal.
It's not that Mia trusts Valerie to not rape her, she knows full well that Valerie's "treatment" involves sex but she's willing to endure that in order to protect her friends and family from Red Mia. That seems to be the point of the sub path, to give up control to Valerie in order to stop Red Mia from taking over completely and possibly harming the people Mia cares about.

Is it possible that Valerie might end up doing the exact same thing to Mia's friends and family that she's trying to prevent Red Mia from doing? Yes, of course.. It's easy for us to see that that's the case. But just as you think Red Mia is the lesser of two evils, Mia herself probably thinks Valerie is the lesser of two evils, due to the situation she's in. Red Mia might not rape her, but she will go after Mia's friends and family, so she basically sacrifices herself to not let that happen.

Because of how we're being shown that Mia feels like she's out of options, the direction of the sub path so far does make sense to me, both from a narrative perspective but also from a gameplay perspective. Because choosing the dom path means giving in to Red Mia (who really is just a highly dominant version of herself), and by doing so basically keeping control. The sub path would then of course have to be about Mia giving up control to someone else, otherwise there would be no reason for there to be a sub path in the first place.
You could say that the sub path could just be about Mia submitting to other people instead of Valerie, but then there would still be the problem of Red Mia slowly taking over. Because of that and everything we've seen so far, it makes more sense for Mia to submit to Valerie since she thinks it might be the only way of "locking away" Red Mia. Whereas taking on a more submissive role with other people wouldn't really serve any narrative purpose at the moment.

That's my take on it at least.

As far as the dom path goes... Well I agree with you, but you already knew that since you've read my message so there's not much else to say about that.

That's a fair perspective on the sub path, but I'd like to point out that Mia does have another option that involves submitting to Valerie: the blackmarket pills that Valerie said she took to suppress herself. Whether or not that was a lie is up in the air considering how she's as out of control as Red Mia, but it's not confirmed, so Mia could have approached Valerie for help in getting those blackmarket pills. Then, Valerie uses sex as payback/payment since Mia raped Monique twice, which will plant the seeds of brainwashing until it's revealed that the pills existed or not.

 

[MessiahXx]

Played the update it was definitely a hot one. I love that dev/s tried to do a real "fight scene" and not just 2 imgs with some text lol. It was pretty cool, honestly they are quite rare to find in AVN especially in 3d ones. I knew that little sh1y was the one that did smt to MC lol.
Happy to see I was right to follow this one. I wonder though, is there more to the plot or will dev pause it for now to focus on relationships advancements? Valerie seemed to be the breach for a bigger plot. Idk, it seemed like she was part of smt bigger. I just wonder if overall we'll have a bigger plot or will it be more a retrospection and self healing plot.





THX

There are some bigger things going on, but I'm going to focus on characters for now.

 

[Balbaar]

That's a fair perspective on the sub path, but I'd like to point out that Mia does have another option that involves submitting to Valerie: the blackmarket pills that Valerie said she took to suppress herself. Whether or not that was a lie is up in the air considering how she's as out of control as Red Mia, but it's not confirmed, so Mia could have approached Valerie for help in getting those blackmarket pills. Then, Valerie uses sex as payback/payment since Mia raped Monique twice, which will plant the seeds of brainwashing until it's revealed that the pills existed or not.

But she did approach Valerie in order to get those pills, that was the reason Mia called her in the first place.

Spoiler: During the call

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The reason the sub path plays out the way it does is because Valerie convinces Mia that she's too far gone for "any drug" to help her, that's exactly why Mia thinks submitting to her is now her only remaining option. There is no need for Valerie to demand sex as payment for the pills, since she already got the result she wanted.

 

[FutaSeekerInParadise69]

But she did approach Valerie in order to get those pills, that was the reason Mia called her in the first place.

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The reason the sub path plays out the way it does is because Valerie convinces Mia that she's too far gone for "any drug" to help her, that's exactly why Mia thinks submitting to her is now her only remaining option. There is no need for Valerie to demand sex as payment for the pills, since she already got the result she wanted.

I wouldn't have trusted Valerie to be convinced that Mia is too far gone because Mia hasn't even tried those blackmarket pills to be sure.

 

[Johan_0000]

But she did approach Valerie in order to get those pills, that was the reason Mia called her in the first place.

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The reason the sub path plays out the way it does is because Valerie convinces Mia that she's too far gone for "any drug" to help her, that's exactly why Mia thinks submitting to her is now her only remaining option. There is no need for Valerie to demand sex as payment for the pills, since she already got the result she wanted.

Can we rly trust Val though lol. I wouldn't take her word for it. Don't forget that she was the one who awakened Mia's rapist self lol.

Only thing I find dumb, is Mia not taking those pills when she went to Val the 1st time. If you don't want to use them, fine. Don't, but atleast keep them in case of emergency... No instead she prefered acting like a dumb sh1t, not taking them and go back to Val later to beg for some. That's the only thing I find pretty idiotic abt the whole situation.





THX

 

[Gosh i love dominic]

Anyone can upload the new progress report, just the text, the images aren't necesary

 

[Balbaar]

I wouldn't have trusted Valerie to be convinced that Mia is too far gone because Mia hasn't even tried those blackmarket pills to be sure.

That's fair, I'm not saying you should like or agree with the way Mia handled it. I'm just explaining why things played out the way they did, and why it makes sense to me that Valerie is the one she ended up submitting to.

Can we rly trust Val though lol. I wouldn't take her word for it. Don't forget that she was the one who awakened Mia's rapist self lol.

Only thing I find dumb, is Mia not taking those pills when she went to Val the 1st time. If you don't want to use them, fine. Don't, but atleast keep them in case of emergency... No instead she prefered acting like a dumb sh1t, not taking them and go back to Val later to beg for some. That's the only thing I find pretty idiotic abt the whole situation.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to imply I trust Valerie. I'm only explaining why Mia felt like going along with her was the only remaining option in that moment.
I mean, looking at Valerie's actions and behaviour it seems very unlikely that she's only doing this because she has Mia's best interest at heart. So far it seems pretty straightforward what she's after, so no I don't trust that she has good intentions.

Should Mia have taken the pills in the first place? Yea she should have, I agree with you on that one. She was being very stubborn and now it came back to bite her in the ass. Personally I didn't mind her making that mistake because it helped in setting up the scenario we saw at the end of this update, but I can see why you'd feel differently about that.

 

[Envy*]

Finally, submission from Mia !

 

[krazlix]

submission will finish as a full NTR, there is only one futa

 

[Hornygrl]

sub path is amazing

 

[aattss]

I'm a fan of games that mix futa and ntr, yet they're not that common, so the Sub path interests me. Though I might check out the Dom path at some point to get more context.