VN Ren'Py According To Sofia [v0.03.07] [GrimaGrima]

[hoochimama]

A shame that the MC was just fine, when his friend confessed to him, what they did with his gf.

When? Which path?

Respectfully, I tried that path and felt I (the player) merely was being set up for an oblivious NTR track. If I read too much into my interpretation, please set me straight. I enjoyed the renders but could not get past the feeling that on the loyal path the joke was on the player... even some of the narrative text referred to things that only should have occurred on the NTR or NTS paths.

All I see is Sofia being loyal by repeatedly rejecting other guy's advances with no hesitation nor ambivalence about it.

 

[NewGuy2022]

When? Which path?


All I see is Sofia being loyal by repeatedly rejecting other guy's advances with no hesitation nor ambivalence about it.

Not saying you're wrong... ...just conditioned by the genre to look for clues of hidden cheating. Perhaps sometimes I see what isn't there...

 

[Clover23]

+1

 

[grima_grima]

Respectfully, I tried that path and felt I (the player) merely was being set up for an oblivious NTR track. If I read too much into my interpretation, please set me straight. I enjoyed the renders but could not get past the feeling that on the loyal path the joke was on the player... even some of the narrative text referred to things that only should have occurred on the NTR or NTS paths.

Hey! If anything in the loyal path is pointing to the non-loyal paths, then it's most likely a bug (some folks already pointed a couple of bugs like this in the past and I fixed them). The loyal path is meant to be just that, loyal. No hidden agenda behind it, and the main reason I've added it to the game was that people who's not into NTR could still enjoy the crazy stories of Sofia.
So, if you don't mind sharing these points where you mentioned are kind of "blurry", I'll take a closer look. Thanks!
Cheers!

 

[grima_grima]

When? Which path?

In both Cuck routes (Willing and Passive), Mark visits Bob at the office in Chapter 3 Part 1 to "unburden"...

 

[SerasAshrein]

It's strange that I already liked the update, the game keeps getting better and better, and I'm 75% satisfied with the update itself, and the animation is already in the game, and the sounds too, and the update itself is much better than the other two, and I already like that the guy took off Sofia's panties and played with her butt, and it's already clear that the author tried and made the game, and it's already starting that other guys are slowly interacting with her and starting to touch her.

 

[hoochimama]

In both Cuck routes (Willing and Passive), Mark visits Bob at the office in Chapter 3 Part 1 to "unburden"...

Makes perfect sense to me. Those paths are clearly labelled as cuck - in bold contrasting colors - and described as the MC being ok with and turned on by Sofia sexually engaging with others. So of course he'd be ok with it. I don't get the complaint.

If there's a path where I could see him not being ok with whatever's eventually revealed it would be the oblivious path, and even then a NTR reaction might be a tall order compared to a NTS one. Sofia's so adorable that getting mad at her screwing up might feel like getting mad at a golden retriever puppy for peeing on the floor.

 

[grima_grima]

Sofia's so adorable that getting mad at her screwing up might feel like getting mad at a golden retriever puppy for peeing on the floor.

Made me laugh, thanks!

 

[Enlight432]

Edited

 

[grima_grima]

Honestly, I don't play NTR games that have weak logic, but someone close to me insisted I play this one. I did, and now I don't regret it. It was very hot, but I have a suggestion.

While Sofia's actions aren't right, what if you justified them in a way that makes the player doubt whether they're right or wrong?

One way is to add a backstory for Sofia that proves she has a low IQ and mental issues. Personally, I don't like this approach because it would diminish Sofia's value.

But what if you acted on Sofia's own words—the part where she said, "It's not wrong logic. It's just early-stage brilliance"?

For example, when she says spanking isn't cheating, let us hear Sofia's mental/verbal justifications. Justifications that are so interesting they genuinely make the player think and start to doubt, wondering if maybe being spanked by another guy isn't wrong after all...

I don't know if you've ever encountered people like this in real life—people who are so clever they can play with words and logic, making you reconsider something you initially found ridiculous and start to think it might actually be right and perfectly fine.

If you can pull this off, in my personal opinion, the value of Sofia and the game itself will increase. It would attract players who care about seriousness and logic, and the characters would move beyond being one-dimensional.

I like the idea of Sofia using her own logic to justify the things she's doing. Her rulebook is part of that. In her mind, if she has something written, it's valid and true.

But I think it would not be easy to find logical and valid arguments for her to let one of her boyfriend's friend to play with his finger inside her ass (or other things that may escalate in the future)... I'll take that into account for future chapters, though. If I manage to find the proper explanation, I'll use it

Thanks!

 

[grima_grima]

Damn... Sofia is so adorable...

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[_Berto_]

I'm usually skeptical of gen AI stuff, but the animations are actually decent! What are you using to generate them?

 

[grima_grima]

I'm usually skeptical of gen AI stuff, but the animations are actually decent! What are you using to generate them?

I'm glad you liked it, but I assure you that for each half-decent animation, there's a ton of weird ones I have to generate
I may share the weird ones or the funny ones eventually.
And I'm using ComfyUI to generate them.

 

[Alfius]

Just want to tell the dev I love his game.

I'm not really an NTR (Or Cucking/sharing) fan but sharing/cucking games like this one and from another developer, (Dimajio333 - sorry for namedropping), shows that love is sometimes more than just sex. I'm sure that is not really the intention, but in this game you never get a feeling that Sophia does not truly love Bob. The teasing really spices up their sex life.

Of course, that can change in future and maybe you will have a full NTR route later on, but at this stage I'm wonderfully in love with Sophia. Her rulebook is hilarious!

I do question the loyalty route. I know there are some passionate anti-NTR players, but the premise of the game is that rulebook of Sophia, where she keeps on shifting the goalpost. Loyal Sophia... I guess is faithful, but in the process, she lost most of her fun and playfulness. I do question silently by myself, not wanting you to remove it or anything like that, why you added the loyalty route....shhhh.

 

[grima_grima]

Just want to tell the dev I love his game.

I'm not really an NTR (Or Cucking/sharing) fan but sharing/cucking games like this one and from another developer, (Dimajio333 - sorry for namedropping), shows that love is sometimes more than just sex. I'm sure that is not really the intention, but in this game you never get a feeling that Sophia does not truly love Bob. The teasing really spices up their sex life.

Of course, that can change in future and maybe you will have a full NTR route later on, but at this stage I'm wonderfully in love with Sophia. Her rulebook is hilarious!

I do question the loyalty route. I know there are some passionate anti-NTR players, but the premise of the game is that rulebook of Sophia, where she keeps on shifting the goalpost. Loyal Sophia... I guess is faithful, but in the process, she lost most of her fun and playfulness. I do question silently by myself, not wanting you to remove it or anything like that, why you added the loyalty route....shhhh.

The Loyal route is to allow non-NTR players to taste a bit of Sofia. And I will add exclusive content on the Loyal path in the future... But yes, the main objective of the game was to have Sofia discovering herself sexually... But I'm not giving spoilers at this point.

Thanks for the review and for the feedback!

Cheers!

 

[NewGuy2022]

Hey! If anything in the loyal path is pointing to the non-loyal paths, then it's most likely a bug (some folks already pointed a couple of bugs like this in the past and I fixed them). The loyal path is meant to be just that, loyal. No hidden agenda behind it, and the main reason I've added it to the game was that people who's not into NTR could still enjoy the crazy stories of Sofia.
So, if you don't mind sharing these points where you mentioned are kind of "blurry", I'll take a closer look. Thanks!
Cheers!

Thanks for your reply (I wasn't expecting to hear from the developer). As mentioned, I'm not an NTR fan but have been conditioned to look for "surprise" NTR clues in so-called loyal paths since some developers seem to work that way these days and I've grown tired of being burnt (the developers "cuck" the reader a bit). As a result, sometimes I see things that aren't there. Here's what I saw that caused me to think that's where you were heading:

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I just downloaded a fresh copy of the game (3.07 this time) and I don't see this occurring so perhaps this is one of the bugs you caught earlier?

Sorry if I read too much into it but that's the impression I was left with. It's a bit long-winded but hopefully made sense.

I'm liking the character development and I can see how you will use Sofia's playful nature to bring Bob out of his shell. Given enough time and development I could see this proceeding to

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but for now I'll be happy to watch them grow together. Thanks for your query.

 

[NewGuy2022]

The Loyal route is to allow non-NTR players to taste a bit of Sofia. And I will add exclusive content on the Loyal path in the future... But yes, the main objective of the game was to have Sofia discovering herself sexually... But I'm not giving spoilers at this point.

Thanks for the review and for the feedback!

Cheers!

One option for the non-NTR crowd (I'm a member, BTW) could allow consensual expansion of the couple's boundaries through shared experiences. Sofia seems to be the extrovert of the couple so if she "brings Bob along", so to speak, she might show him that he enjoys wider kinks but doesn't realize it yet: exhibitionism, teasing others, etc. So long as it's done from a place of love, communication, and mutual respect of the partners' boundaries it can be a fun thing to watch (no shaming, humiliation, or cheating). Perhaps instead of Sofia discovering herself, she might help Bob discover himself... ...to the couple's mutual enjoyment. Watch out for the quiet ones.

Personally I get the impression that Sofia isn't ditzy or stupid; she's brilliant and has others fooled into thinking she's just a bimbo. She might actually be pulling some significant strings that folks aren't watching.

Watching her tease Bob's three friends without actually allowing them to get anywhere with her then walking over to share herself with Bob in front of them... ...or celebrating the experiences later with Bob could lead to some explosive sex scenes. The tension for the three friends who get so close but never quite get the prize could be pretty powerful.

But none of this could work without trust and respect.

A bit heavy perhaps for a light game but... ...we anti-NTR folks aren't all boring.

 

[TonyMurray]

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I haven't been back to check it, but that was brought up when the previous (0.2) update came out and dev said he would fix it. I'm sure he's posted a notification of the corrected version, so it should be sorted in the new 0.3 download. Same with a bit of dialogue about the clothing store worker who groped her - I think that was changed to show her getting mad at him and getting a discount as an apology, rather than him just giving her a discount for having a nice butt.

Edit, found it:

I've fixed these issues from Chapter 1:

Loyal path: the narrator does not mention that she liked when Chris slapped her ass, just says she liked it when Bob did it:
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And Sofia gets mad at the pajama store:
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I appreciate all the feedback! I know these are small things, but they help the game to become better

These fixes will be available when Chapter 3 Part 1 is released in early November.

Cheers!

 

[NewGuy2022]

I haven't been back to check it, but that was brought up when the previous (0.2) update came out and dev said he would fix it. I'm sure he's posted a notification of the corrected version, so it should be sorted in the new 0.3 download. Same with a bit of dialogue about the clothing store worker who groped her - I think that was changed to show her getting mad at him and getting a discount as an apology, rather than him just giving her a discount for having a nice butt.

Edit, found it:

Figured that something like that had happened. Thanks!

 

[Alfius]

One option for the non-NTR crowd (I'm a member, BTW) could allow consensual expansion of the couple's boundaries through shared experiences. Sofia seems to be the extrovert of the couple so if she "brings Bob along", so to speak, she might show him that he enjoys wider kinks but doesn't realize it yet: exhibitionism, teasing others, etc. So long as it's done from a place of love, communication, and mutual respect of the partners' boundaries it can be a fun thing to watch (no shaming, humiliation, or cheating). Perhaps instead of Sofia discovering herself, she might help Bob discover himself... ...to the couple's mutual enjoyment. Watch out for the quiet ones.

Personally I get the impression that Sofia isn't ditzy or stupid; she's brilliant and has others fooled into thinking she's just a bimbo. She might actually be pulling some significant strings that folks aren't watching.

Watching her tease Bob's three friends without actually allowing them to get anywhere with her then walking over to share herself with Bob in front of them... ...or celebrating the experiences later with Bob could lead to some explosive sex scenes. The tension for the three friends who get so close but never quite get the prize could be pretty powerful.

But none of this could work without trust and respect.

A bit heavy perhaps for a light game but... ...we anti-NTR folks aren't all boring.

Appreciate your honesty and openness to Sophia's naughty side.

So I chose the willing cuck path (Since I found the Loyalty path a bit boring and at this stage, she is not even using her rule book which is the main point of the game)

I'm also not a fan of the NTR genre (humiliation, blackmail, rape etc.) in general, but I love games where anything can happen.
Having said that, the willing cuck path is pretty good IMO.

Since you are probable not going to play the Cuck path let me give you some insight if you are interested:

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