VN Ren'Py According To Sofia [v0.03.07] [GrimaGrima]

[grima_grima]

Thanks for your reply (I wasn't expecting to hear from the developer). As mentioned, I'm not an NTR fan but have been conditioned to look for "surprise" NTR clues in so-called loyal paths since some developers seem to work that way these days and I've grown tired of being burnt (the developers "cuck" the reader a bit). As a result, sometimes I see things that aren't there. Here's what I saw that caused me to think that's where you were heading:

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I just downloaded a fresh copy of the game (3.07 this time) and I don't see this occurring so perhaps this is one of the bugs you caught earlier?

Sorry if I read too much into it but that's the impression I was left with. It's a bit long-winded but hopefully made sense.

I'm liking the character development and I can see how you will use Sofia's playful nature to bring Bob out of his shell. Given enough time and development I could see this proceeding to

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but for now I'll be happy to watch them grow together. Thanks for your query.

Yep, I've fixed a few bugs on the Loyal path like the one you pointed out. And if you see anyting like that in future releases, please let me know.

I do plan on adding exhibitionism to the loyal path (most likely as optional), but I'm not so sure about swinging...

Cheers!

 

[grima_grima]

Appreciate your honesty and openness to Sophia's naughty side.

So I chose the willing cuck path (Since I found the Loyalty path a bit boring and at this stage, she is not even using her rule book which is the main point of the game)

I'm also not a fan of the NTR genre (humiliation, blackmail, rape etc.) in general, but I love games where anything can happen.
Having said that, the willing cuck path is pretty good IMO.

Since you are probable not going to play the Cuck path let me give you some insight if you are interested:

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You are doing some very good observation here! Thanks

 

[grima_grima]

the Loyalty path a bit boring and at this stage, she is not even using her rule book which is the main point of the game

I agree that in comparison with the non-Loyal path it feels a bit boring, but I have something coming up that might give it some leverage

And yes, the rulebook makes no sense in the Loyal path, so it doesn't exist...

But I just had an idea about it... What if in the Loyal path she had a different book? Where she would write things like: "When Chris smacked my butt I got so mad at him... And when I told Bob about it, he got so excited that I stood up for myself that we made love so good..." (not exactly like this, but you get the idea)...

I'll see if I will implement this idea or not...

Cheers!

 

[NewGuy2022]

The loyalty route, just seems to be so bland in comparison. She gets angry every time someone crosses the line...and then they have sex. I might be wrong, but you miss a lot of Sophia's personality on this route, with the biggest being no rulebook.

I appreciate the insight. I've been dipping into the cuck routes to see the material that I'm missing. I don't

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Just where my head is at. I'm enjoying the ride.

 

[Alfius]

I appreciate the insight. I've been dipping into the cuck routes to see the material that I'm missing. I don't

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Just where my head is at. I'm enjoying the ride.

A 100% reasonable approach to the game.

My last word on this:

I never was one for semantics, so excuse my if terminology is a bit off.
The difference in this game between cucking and potential future sharing in this game is pretty close IMO. Swinging is obviously not on the cards at this stage as there are no other female characters in the game and no one else has a GF at this stage. I would say the only difference between sharing and cucking is the MC's direct presence. Cucking in this instance is like sharing but with delayed gratification for Bob. His friend's interactions with Sophia are almost like foreplay to the main course between Bob and Sophia later that night.

Not trying to convince you or anything but just explaining my perspective on the game.

 

[NewGuy2022]

A 100% reasonable approach to the game.

My last word on this:

I never was one for semantics, so excuse my if terminology is a bit off.
The difference in this game between cucking and potential future sharing in this game is pretty close IMO. Swinging is obviously not on the cards at this stage as there are no other female characters in the game and no one else has a GF at this stage. I would say the only difference between sharing and cucking is the MC's direct presence. Cucking in this instance is like sharing but with delayed gratification for Bob. His friend's interactions with Sophia are almost like foreplay to the main course between Bob and Sophia later that night.

Not trying to convince you or anything but just explaining my perspective on the game.

No issue; completely agree. Soft cucking in this game (w/o humiliation, etc.) is sharing in abstentia. Voyeurism would be (if Sofia knows she's being watched), too.

Your point about the absence of any other women is well taken, probably because of how the developer planned the game, I guess. He still has the option to bring in hard teasing (exhibitionism) where the guys can look but not touch (especially if they don't understand the rules) and still keep things on the loyal path... Just me thinking out loud again.

 

[Dimitry710]

The worst thing you can do is let random people tell you how to make your own video game. Obviously, there are comments you can take into account, but when you listen to everything a random person on the internet tells you, it's your end.
And there are dozens of games that have fallen into this trap.
And they didn't end up well. Good luck with your project.

 

[Alfius]

The worst thing you can do is let random people tell you how to make your own video game. Obviously, there are comments you can take into account, but when you listen to everything a random person on the internet tells you, it's your end.
And there are dozens of games that have fallen into this trap.
And they didn't end up well. Good luck with your project.

100 % agree with this statement

 

[cloudshoutarou]

amazing game till far, the oblivious path is hot!

 

[hoochimama]

The worst thing you can do is let random people tell you how to make your own video game. Obviously, there are comments you can take into account, but when you listen to everything a random person on the internet tells you, it's your end.
And there are dozens of games that have fallen into this trap.
And they didn't end up well. Good luck with your project.

The poll should really help put things in perspective.

 

[TerraMagica]

When the story will be about halfway done, it's almost certain that my first choice will be the passive cuck route, as it seems the closest to my taste in this genre.

The problem with the willing cuck route: So far I can only talk about what I've read on this thread, but it seems on this path Sofia's acts will be massively under the MC's control, and her most decisions will based on the MC's consent. I like NTS but I still prefer if Sofia has her own will, and not just follow our "orders". I prefer if she is independent, self-determined, and makes her own choices without being manipulated by us. But there's some chance I'm wong about this path, and the MC just only arranging the situations for her, and then he steps back and allows things to unfold.. In this case this path will be fun for me as well.

About the oblivious route: This path will be more of about the "betrayal", which is a bit closer to me, but as I know, the MC will never find out about Sofia's adventures, and he will never catch her during in the act. So in this case the saying also applies in practice, what you don't know, it doesn't hurt. So acutally it's like our couple just living their own life, without any (NTR) conflict.

As I said I haven't played yet, so there's a chance my statements about the paths are totally wrong.. But in this case hopefully the dev will corret me.

 

[grima_grima]

When the story will be about halfway done, it's almost certain that my first choice will be the passive cuck route, as it seems the closest to my taste in this genre.

The problem with the willing cuck route: So far I can only talk about what I've read on this thread, but it seems on this path Sofia's acts will be massively under the MC's control, and her most decisions will based on the MC's consent. I like NTS but I still prefer if Sofia has her own will, and not just follow our "orders". I prefer if she is independent, self-determined, and makes her own choices without being manipulated by us. But there's some chance I'm wong about this path, and the MC just only arranging the situations for her, and then he steps back and allows things to unfold.. In this case this path will be fun for me as well.

About the oblivious route: This path will be more of about the "betrayal", which is a bit closer to me, but as I know, the MC will never find out about Sofia's adventures, and he will never catch her during in the act. So in this case the saying also applies in practice, what you don't know, it doesn't hurt. So acutally it's like our couple just living their own life, without any (NTR) conflict.

As I said I haven't played yet, so there's a chance my statements about the paths are totally wrong.. But in this case hopefully the dev will corret me.

Sofia is not under Bob's control. Depending on the path, Bob can try to influence her to do more stuff, but in the end, it's all up to her (and the player, in some situations).

Anyway, maybe you should give it a try. The game is short at the moment, and you could play all the routes to feel their differences (in some cases, they're very subtle)

Cheers!

 

[TerraMagica]

Sofia is not under Bob's control. Depending on the path, Bob can try to influence her to do more stuff, but in the end, it's all up to her

I'm glad if that's the case.

Anyway, you convinced me to not wait any longer, and give it a go soon. But I still think you should reconsider at least the oblivious path. I mean the MC should be given the chance to at least have some idea about Sofia's (secret) progress with another guy.
I'll give you the most simple idea, like a poker night, where the MC can accidentally catches Sofia and one of his buddy as they playing with each other's feet under the table at the middle of the game. This would give Bob the opportunity to experience feelings such as jealousy, excitement, or being shocked, etc. making the whole (Netorare) plot more effective.