Hey-ho! I'm a little late to the party and Unshi has already covered a whole lot, but I'mma say a thing or two myself also. Cheers all!
This may be too long winded, and I generally lurk. So yeah, I guess I'll do it anyway. Since I do actually feel something for this game.
Nat is easily my favorite character in this odd genre of gaming, you know, porn games. Not just from being a fan of Black Widow from the comics, and loving ScarJo's Widow on the big screen. Though that certainly is a play here. She's a well fleshed out character with an interesting story, but also properly exudes sexiness.
To one of my points, I'm saddened, maybe a little heartbroken to hear her game where she is the prime MC is close to coming to a conclusion. I think this story had great potential to be much more expansive. To add further sting in the wound, AoH's development has been interrupted by so many other things.
I know, you say all these other things, a second game, and numerous mini-novels had no delay in AoH. I'll never get that, so likely no point going round and round over it. But, I can't help myself from doing it. Man hours diverted to this or that is not man hours spent on AoH in my mind. Also, I'll never understand that other co-creators in your crew are incapable of working on AoH. I mean, I've applied for jobs before, I know if I can't do what is required, I don't get the job. It'll generally click in my mind with proper training. If not, someone else what can do what is asked gets the job. However, you never get the job if can not preform the task.
NTR never really grasped me like AoH has. Definite bias towards the comic characters, but even the NTR story it's self just wasn't as appealing. I tried to get into it. This is the proper response, that I hated the rival business owners character. He's supposed to be a slimy jerk. However, I disliked him to the point that I didn't want to see Noami and all of her friends eventually ending up on there knees sucking him off, ect.
Kriem also rubbed me the wrong way, like turning me completely off of the game. Perhaps the character hit too close to home. I just knew too many people just like her, and even had some of that obliviously self destructive nihilism myself back in the day. Yeah, lot of that crew is dead, or homeless, or methed out beyond recognition. There were some good times that were had, but I wouldn't go near the lot of them with a ten foot pole in retrospect. Hell, myself included. I'm not in the best place financially, as direct result of bad choices made during those years. I've only loosely followed the game since Kriem's mini novel. The mini game debacle really further decreased my interests. Sparse content nailed the coffin.
Frankly, I wish NTR hadn't been conceived, and AoH gotten 100% of those man hours. Gotta admit there were some mistakes made with NTR. Anyway, enough negative. I just wish full development had gone to AoH. It would have been great to have more cool characters added, and Nat's cool story widely expanded upon. Elektra was hinted at existing in Bewilderverse. Lara would have been great as a part of Nat's crew.
Mystique was in the banner. She's so awesome and is a bountiful fount of potential to add to a game like this. I mean in the comics she had straight relations, female-female relations, and as a male-female relations. Did she also have male-male relations? I don't know. She's been a groundbreaking character well ahead of her time for sure! You could tap the futa market with her, and it wouldn't be that far of a stretch from the cannon character! You could have some Nat on Nat action, with Mystique shifting into Nat haha! Really, just so many ideas. Sexually aggressive antagonist, occasional ally, you'd never know with her. I could see her and Nat fighting, Nat losing, and Mystique raping her! Tapping further into more edgy fetish markets. Maybe it was a mistake putting her in the banner if you didn't plan on doing anything with her, she's too great of a character for that.
Poison Ivy deserves more time too. Already established in game, but not really living up to her potential. Lurking in the backgrounds mostly, like me on f95 forums.
Anyway, I know little merit is given to posts on a pirate forum. I love the game, if I was better off I'd support, especially now with better pay tiers. Sometimes I earn gift card cash with surveys, but haven't seen any way to pay Patrion through that method, with some kind of gift card. If there was I'd already be a supporter. Glad to see more effort is being made into game content, with this update being 50% larger.
I hope there's plenty more Nat related content coming even after AoH is done. Maybe some copyright wolves in fancy suites and spiffy white shoes have their teeth around your neck and you'd like to have some original content established before they sink their sharp pearly whites in, with the hope you're not decapitated entirely. I can understand that. Still though, I've grown quite fond of your interpretation of Black Widow.
Thanks for your interactions.
Glad you like AoH my friend! It's always nice to hear. Cheers for saying you enjoy Nat's character so much too, we do put in the effort to make our character stand out and be as full as we can make them (sometimes too full). It's great when people pick up on that and enjoy our efforts, yay! As Unshi said though, fear not, Nat might not be our leading lady on Unshi's side of the content forever (she's still got a few updates in her left!) but she's not going to go away forever either. We put in the time and the love with her, you all have too, and so she'll be apart of stuff we do in the future for sure. Not everything, but she'll be around. Anytime our stories take a turn for the shadowy and the suspicious... you can sit on the edge of your seat and wonder if she'll make an entrance in the next CG... it's more than possible.
To NTR, I'll not do a whole thing here on that specifically since it's got it's own thread/place to discuss, but I do have a few quick points
- Bummer that you didn't like it as much or that much, but that's fair. Its a different kind of story in a different part of our world, so it won't be for everyone, and it does have things that need improving. It's alright though, enjoy what you can and what you like, we still have AoH and more.
- Sal is a shit. I don't like him either, but he is fun to write. I wouldn't worry too much about him, Noe can beat him if you try, just keep that fight alive. She can even cheat and fuck other guys while doing that, and they don't do the whole "Magic big cock" thing to do it.
- Sorry to hear about Kriem and your personal experiences. She is the kind of girl you either like a lot or despise. She's not without her redeeming qualities though, she just needs a woman like Noe to help her, Roy thinks the same.
To the bigger NTR point though, wishing it was never conceived, that's a tricky one you might not want as much as you think. I understand the disappointment that the time away from AoH for it is not something your for, we'll disagree on that respectfully and leave it at that, but let me open up a little something on this actually, it's not a thing most people know.
When Unshi and I came to work together, we were both in difficult places in our lives (relatively that is). I was a fan of AoH from day 1, in large part because of the pun title, and I stuck around to help him out and support him. Eventually we teamed up and started planning NTR, but originally I wasn't at all apart of AoH. I wanted to stay out and enjoy it as a fan. That set up lasted about 8-10 months actually. All of v04-05 were done by Unshi alone without me having a part of it, and v06 was going to be too. He was working on those while I put together all the NTR stuff with his consultations. It was only after he read the early NTR stuff I put together did he really push for me to join AoH too and for use to not compartmentalize, to become beWilder. I jumped in and wrote v06s scenes literally days before release (my first scene was Cat's rescue after Mission 1) because he wanted me to be apart of what he was doing with Nat too. If not for that (and that I wanted to do bad things to Kate in her school uniform), and if not for NTR, it might well be that I never would have joined AoH, or it would have been a whole lot later... so I think NTR existing has helped improve us all around even if it's been a bummer to Nat-oholics in other ways. I believe AoH has only gotten better since we became a team (even if I write a little too much some times).
Anyways, that's a little insider story for y'all. I'm not trying to say people are wrong to like what they like, but sometimes it's interesting to see how things interconnect in ways and to see how the sexy is made.
To AoH again!
Yes, Mystique is a wonderful character and I'm glad we have her. I'll not touch on the theories on her just yet though. We have a special story in mind for her and another lady that would make a great rival for her, but we're not at the point in the story to have it happen yet... and who knows when we'll make it when we are... but we do have smutty ideas to use her more.
Ivy too, is definitely a woman to make more of. It's been a point against us that we painted her in to a corner of being behind the scenes for the most part in the game. She should have been more visible and more fucked by now, but that's something we've learned in retrospect. All we can do now is make sure she has some memorable moments in the future, and depending on the canonical end, she might well be poised to make many more appearance like Nat.
Alrighty, those are my things to add said, cheers again for the supportive words, the feedback and the genrally constructive criticism. It's all good in keeping us going strong! Hope to keep that love for Nat super tight as we keep moving ahead with her and putting her parts to various uses!
Thanks for the info. I have just some a fair bit of page surfing thru this thread and am impressed with the "un spoliers" you have shared throughout.
I just had a quick play with your NTR game and not liking it any where as much as AOH. So new Patrion heading over your way.
Just wondering about the AOH family/series of games. Is there a series of comics etc preceding this AOH: MoAR? Is there a playing/reading order as you have established with NTR series?
Cheers
Thank you kindly also, and thanks for the support too! It's highly appreciated and every bit helps. Just wanted to tag you and say cheers personally myself. Great stuff!
I believe Unshi already laid out the chronology in a post above, but so far all of AoH's media can be enjoyed alone (but are and will be better in the order he gave as we expand the comic some more).
