ShabbyCrabby

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Hopefully today the update will release unless I missed something and they delayed it.

Last I knew they said 13th September!
 

SiriusBlack

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They used to do that way back. There was a voting and they decided to do the patches more spaced out with more content.
Didn't know that, that's enteresting!

I doubt that. Looking at stuff like Summertime Saga the frequency of releases dosent seem to be that important for success.
I think its mostly the fetish. Eroge itself are a pretty small niche in the west, NTR games are a niche in a niche. That massively limits the amount of possible supporters.
The fetish surely has a lof of importance, i just thought that a frequent release would help people who supports every few months, just to play the game every 2-3 updates. Surely it won't change a lot, but if they're doing as patrons voted, it's just chitchatting :)

Do you thing the patch will come out today/this weekend?
 

desmosome

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I doubt that. Looking at stuff like Summertime Saga the frequency of releases dosent seem to be that important for success.
I think its mostly the fetish. Eroge itself are a pretty small niche in the west, NTR games are a niche in a niche. That massively limits the amount of possible supporters.
I think female protagonist NTR is closer to the cheating genre than classic NTR. You need at least dual protagonist point of view to really bring out the pain lol. It's a shame most 2D games get less support than 3D ones even though creating 2D art is way more expensive. It's a miracle summertime saga makes that much. I really don't see how it does so well.
 

Terix3

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NTR tag is bloated as it stands for all three types - netorare, netorase and netori, and then netorare can be the "pain" route or the "fun" one. There is no real desire to clean up the naming from what i can tell and west audience for most part associates NTR with netorare-pain version - i would say mostly due to hanime. Meanwhile the term started as "dangerous" or "extreeme cheating" + corruption, thats how i have encountered it. I think cheating is not that much of a niche for west audience and think they should relay more on that tag then NTR.

All I know is, these guys are doing 12-16 scenes per month while there are milkers like Geeseki who earn the same or Redamz/DarkCookie doing 1-4 scenes per half a year+ This is why I loath all people who support these...It's not just alansya chronicles, there are other devs working hard but not receiving much attention taffy tales, charao girl, meh list is very long, keep pouring money where you shouldn't and whenever something unfair happens to yourself complain how world is unfair. Karma.
They are at least still making their own stuff, there are some modders on patreon that basically repuprose stuff but the repacks take the cake - flashbangz with 2k+ ppl and 5$ lowest tier ... like wtf.
 

SiriusBlack

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I think female protagonist NTR is closer to the cheating genre than classic NTR. You need at least dual protagonist point of view to really bring out the pain lol. It's a shame most 2D games get less support than 3D ones even though creating 2D art is way more expensive. It's a miracle summertime saga makes that much. I really don't see how it does so well.
Imho 2d >>> 3d games. I also can't understant that absurd amount of money that STS does. We talked about that months ago and someone (i think it was LawsuitIncoming) said they are good at advertising and sponsoring the game. STS is a fun game and i enjoyed it the first time i played, but every update is like "wtf, i waited 6 months for this?". Fleeting Iris has at least 2 scenes that completely fucks my mind every update, it's unbelievable :D
 

Zellemate

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Really hope the game will come out today, but I'm pretty skeptical.
They have behind with the CG´s for some time, and I think they still are...
Hoping for the best of cause :D !
 

Terix3

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I hate being right in this case but there is like no chance for it to release today. It will be half of miracle if we will get update today with how much delay there will be.
I have huge problem with how they handle it , you provide date you keep the date or you give update within that time. Meanwhile for them couple days delay is not even worth mentioning, date go up and there is no info nothing, maybe in two days they give update.
 

JasDoc

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I hate being right in this case but there is like no chance for it to release today. It will be half of miracle if we will get update today with how much delay there will be.
I have huge problem with how they handle it , you provide date you keep the date or you give update within that time. Meanwhile for them couple days delay is not even worth mentioning, date go up and there is no info nothing, maybe in two days they give update.
Yep, however every update is massive (16 scenes? It's like 4-5 updates of any other game here) and a delay isn't longer than a week. In comparison with majority of developers, they are very reliable and hard-working.
 

Terix3

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Yep, however every update is massive (16 scenes? It's like 4-5 updates of any other game here) and a delay isn't longer than a week. In comparison with majority of developers, they are very reliable and hard-working.
I don't deny that, i love their work. But it is such a simple thing to keep people updated and it makes you look ...far more reliable?
 

JasDoc

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I don't deny that, i love their work. But it is such a simple thing to keep people updated and it makes you look ...far more reliable?
For sure, they should be more transparent about the deadline. If they need more time, they should just give info about that.
 
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Qianke

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For sure, they should be more transparent about the deadline. If they need more time, they should just give info about that.
Hey man, why don't you go to other reads like Summertime Saga and tell them that? I think you are much more needed there.
 

Zellemate

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I hate being right in this case but there is like no chance for it to release today. It will be half of miracle if we will get update today with how much delay there will be.
I have huge problem with how they handle it , you provide date you keep the date or you give update within that time. Meanwhile for them couple days delay is not even worth mentioning, date go up and there is no info nothing, maybe in two days they give update.
I'm a patreon myself and I completely agree, I would rather have them set a date(like today) and then be 110% sure they can deliver. Like it should be out in the afternoon, not 00:00 some weird time zone to give them 6 hours extra.
I do expect them to deliver when they give themself a new deadline with 14 days extra to work with.
(I am however very skeptical). We will have to wait and see, I do belive in the team :p
 

noctred

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Give dates you're sure you can meet or don't give dates at all. If you give a date you think you can meet but then it starts looking like you won't be able to, let your customers know in advance, not the day of expected release.

It really is that simple.
 
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Qianke

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Just because a different game is worse doesn't make their point any less true, this is a pretty shitty argument.
Maybe it doesn't, but this is still annoying that some people can get away with everything and some need to always stand on their toes. These devs are already scraping by and doing their best, there is no need for someone to nag them for ETAs. If there is a person with enough energy to do that, they should invest them in the proper place. I understand though, if you nag about sleaziness of SummertimeSaga dev you get banned since he is in "friendly" terms with management of the site so no one is willing to go there and speak truth haha. In this regard I am mistaken indeed.
 

Terix3

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Maybe it doesn't, but this is still annoying that some people can get away with everything and some need to always stand on their toes. These devs are already scraping by and doing their best, there is no need for someone to nag them for ETAs. If there is a person with enough energy to do that, they should invest them in the proper place. I understand though, if you nag about sleaziness of SummertimeSaga dev you get banned since he is in "friendly" terms with management of the site so no one is willing to go there and speak truth haha. In this regard I am mistaken indeed.
You are wrong about our intentions or at least mine. I never asked them about ETA and i forgive them all delays. But i'm not blind and i can see there they are lacking and i will talk about it hoping they can improve. Especially when something is this easy to "fix".
In case of SummertimeSaga i just couldn't care less how it is doing so whats the point in suggesting anything there?


Well things don't look too bad, it won't be out on 13th but they are pushing it forward. So hopefully tomorrow.
 
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