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Maybe not a problem but it is something to be cautious about. I was quite sad that the molester scene and waiter ended up happening in toilet and we had quite a few of those already. If a beach scene will end up in toilet again i'm gonna flip out XD.

If you can't create backgrounds to make scenes feel more distinct then maybe use the RPGM map more. I know some scenes have pixel art that is only visible for a second and the start of scene. You could hide the image mid scene here and then to show the place actions is happening. Like during the molester toilet scene show the guys changing places on rpgm map. During the Las Noches we get that as image hides when Robert enters the toilet. But what would be even better? You know how their table is next to wall and there is black area to the left? what if toilet happened to be there ? So they can bang and behind the wall. Also don't teleport Ayame but have her walk there.
Well - Perhaps, its a matter of personal opinion IMHO. If you are a patreon then I would recommend you to talk to Starke directly about it, like if you are not satisfied with the scenes. Best way to reach him is Discord!
I will try to copy your examples to him and describe what you feel then Starke can give his own opinion! And perhaps he will take it into consideration for rest of the scenes for the game.

Regarding backgrounds - If you go back to older scenes most don't even have backgrounds, it's only the newer ones that have. Many just have black background or rpgmaker map background when a scene is played - So if I start to mention backgrounds are bad, hell will brake lose :p since he have done extra work to make backgrounds for the last many scenes which is something new.

I could agree with you the Las Noches waiter scenes - More interesting stuff could have happend... but its up to Starke - it's hes idea and story. Many scenes could be redone and improved like you describe, but that would literally take forever.
 

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Well - Perhaps, its a matter of personal opinion IMHO. If you are a patreon then I would recommend you to talk to Starke directly about it, like if you are not satisfied with the scenes. Best way to reach him is Discord!
I will try to copy your examples to him and describe what you feel then Starke can give his own opinion! And perhaps he will take it into consideration for rest of the scenes for the game.

Regarding backgrounds - If you go back to older scenes most don't even have backgrounds, it's only the newer ones that have. Many just have black background or rpgmaker map background when a scene is played - So if I start to mention backgrounds are bad, hell will brake lose :p since he have done extra work to make backgrounds for the last many scenes which is something new.

I could agree with you the Las Noches waiter scenes - More interesting stuff could have happend... but its up to Starke - it's hes idea and story. Many scenes could be redone and improved like you describe, but that would literally take forever.
I find it hard to asking him to do more when he is already doing so much for free basically. I trust that you consolidate feedback and whisper him the right words at the right time.

The backgrounds are hit and miss. From the top of my head i liked the ones for gym they did look like well ... gym. But some others are just blurry blob that does not indicate anything. RPGM background are not the worst many games has scenes as side images so you can see the pixel action on screen at the same time.
 

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I find it hard to asking him to do more when he is already doing so much for free basically. I trust that you consolidate feedback and whisper him the right words at the right time.

The backgrounds are hit and miss. From the top of my head i liked the ones for gym they did look like well ... gym. But some others are just blurry blob that does not indicate anything. RPGM background are not the worst many games has scenes as side images so you can see the pixel action on screen at the same time.
Fair enough, I did forward your critique - And he's reply was basicly what I already said: "There are bound to be some similar scenes when you have over 200 in total"

Backgrounds are not insanely good I agree, but they do their purpose. Starke pretty much refuses to use normal assets just for fillers, which have been used in 100 other games. Then he will rather go for no background, or make some himself.
It's the same for other parts of the game, like music - It's all custom made for the game - nothing borrowed, or replicated.
Same with the pixel artwork, perhaps not top tier - but again custom made for the game.
 

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Looking for the Walkthrough for this game...in the main page the link of walkthrough is no more available in that page.
 
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Looking for the Walkthrough for this game...in the main page the link of walkthrough is no more available in that page.
The team is re-creating the walkthrough and it will be available on the homepage Soon™.
Meanwhile use the guide, which is on the front page -> Or Here
 
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The most killer teaser is out on twitter!! :love::love:

Good catch, not to take the credit which is yours of cause! But here it is for those to lazy to click the link.
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Another 'small' Twitter spoiler - Feel free to guess!
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i played it a bit. only made me realize i truly do not like NTR. i think the best i could do ntr wise is if the husband/bf is out of the game period and shes just married on paper
 

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i played it a bit. only made me realize i truly do not like NTR. i think the best i could do ntr wise is if the husband/bf is out of the game period and shes just married on paper
I really think people get the wrong idea with NTR. You aren't Robert and you don't have to be, if you wish to insert, insert as one of the other guys. Plus I give major props to the creator and really think the creator said it best, when the game begins he says that the "True End" is the canon ending, everything else is just some what if stuff. Meant for your pleasure. That's probably the most healthy way to think of it. The true end doesn't have any ending scenes in the recollection room which I wouldn't think about too much about.

Also don't pay too much attention to the text, it's mainly there to fulfill a kink. I hold skip through most of it. My only issue with NTR is that it's the "go to" to spice up a story and you can tell when that is the case. That's not bashing anyone, it just seems to be the case that if you don't really know how to give a impetus to your story then NTR is typically the fall back.

A part of me is with you, I don't mind NTR because I know what I'm here for. Though I do prefer games like Makina that just let you corrupt the protagonist no previous relationship needed. I honestly don't know if this game would be better without the NTR. If you were just Ayame who was new to the city. And Robert and all of these other dudes were just paths to the end. And it doesn't matter. The creator wanted it this way and you have a choice. You can rush the "True End" in about an hour or two and that can be the end of it for you. Then you can just unlock everything in the recollection room and continue on about your business. Or you can try and get as much content as possible.
 

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I really think people get the wrong idea with NTR. You aren't Robert and you don't have to be, if you wish to insert, insert as one of the other guys. Plus I give major props to the creator and really think the creator said it best, when the game begins he says that the "True End" is the canon ending, everything else is just some what if stuff. Meant for your pleasure. That's probably the most healthy way to think of it. The true end doesn't have any ending scenes in the recollection room which I wouldn't think about too much about.

Also don't pay too much attention to the text, it's mainly there to fulfill a kink. I hold skip through most of it. My only issue with NTR is that it's the "go to" to spice up a story and you can tell when that is the case. That's not bashing anyone, it just seems to be the case that if you don't really know how to give a impetus to your story then NTR is typically the fall back.

A part of me is with you, I don't mind NTR because I know what I'm here for. Though I do prefer games like Makina that just let you corrupt the protagonist no previous relationship needed. I honestly don't know if this game would be better without the NTR. If you were just Ayame who was new to the city. And Robert and all of these other dudes were just paths to the end. And it doesn't matter. The creator wanted it this way and you have a choice. You can rush the "True End" in about an hour or two and that can be the end of it for you. Then you can just unlock everything in the recollection room and continue on about your business. Or you can try and get as much content as possible.
You know, the last bit is how i usually play this kinds of games mostly ^^
 

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I really think people get the wrong idea with NTR. You aren't Robert and you don't have to be, if you wish to insert, insert as one of the other guys. Plus I give major props to the creator and really think the creator said it best, when the game begins he says that the "True End" is the canon ending, everything else is just some what if stuff. Meant for your pleasure. That's probably the most healthy way to think of it. The true end doesn't have any ending scenes in the recollection room which I wouldn't think about too much about.

Also don't pay too much attention to the text, it's mainly there to fulfill a kink. I hold skip through most of it. My only issue with NTR is that it's the "go to" to spice up a story and you can tell when that is the case. That's not bashing anyone, it just seems to be the case that if you don't really know how to give a impetus to your story then NTR is typically the fall back.

A part of me is with you, I don't mind NTR because I know what I'm here for. Though I do prefer games like Makina that just let you corrupt the protagonist no previous relationship needed. I honestly don't know if this game would be better without the NTR. If you were just Ayame who was new to the city. And Robert and all of these other dudes were just paths to the end. And it doesn't matter. The creator wanted it this way and you have a choice. You can rush the "True End" in about an hour or two and that can be the end of it for you. Then you can just unlock everything in the recollection room and continue on about your business. Or you can try and get as much content as possible.
heres the thing, i dont put myself in the pants of robert. but i still dont like seeing,hearing and having the cuck participate in scenes
 

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heres the thing, i dont put myself in the pants of robert. but i still dont like seeing,hearing and having the cuck participate in scenes
It's basicly because there are different variants of NTR/cuckolding/cheating - And people often likes different variants.
Fleeting Iris focuses on cheating or NTR where you play as the GIRL who becomes a slut, where she almost gets caught by her fiancee all the time, or you see it from his perspective where he again time after time almost catches her - Or it happens right under his noise.

So yeah if you don't like that type of fetish - It's hard to do anything since there is A LOT of that in this game.
There is however also a lot of other stuff going on in this game, which perhaps is better just to check via the gallery so you're not wasting your time!
 

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It's basicly because there are different variants of NTR/cuckolding/cheating - And people often likes different variants.
Fleeting Iris focuses on cheating or NTR where you play as the GIRL who becomes a slut, where she almost gets caught by her fiancee all the time, or you see it from his perspective where he again time after time almost catches her - Or it happens right under his noise.

So yeah if you don't like that type of fetish - It's hard to do anything since there is A LOT of that in this game.
There is however also a lot of other stuff going on in this game, which perhaps is better just to check via the gallery so you're not wasting your time!
i guess. give it another try
 
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