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So I played the content and well I have to say for the family route is it possible to ignore jack I feel he ruins the mood but then it's just me.
 

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Thanks for the clarification.

I'd advise though to not refer to it as a "DLC" since it might create confusion. "DLC" means an addition/expansion to an already existing game(or piece of software, to be more technical and exact). That's why pretty much every DLC requires the base game in order to be played, even if the DLC's content is detached from the base game.

Another question, will the main game receive additional content, or will all the 2021 content be in form of a standalone game(s)?
To be precise, DLC stands for DownLoadable Content - Which can be implemented in any way a developer sees fit really.
But I hear you, point taken! :coffee:
 

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So I played the content and well I have to say for the family route is it possible to ignore jack I feel he ruins the mood but then it's just me.
He's a big part of the family route yes - Perhaps play a different route!
 

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So I played the content and well I have to say for the family route is it possible to ignore jack I feel he ruins the mood but then it's just me.
Yeah, I wish they would have given Jack and Arthur their own separate routes. One for Jack may happen in the future. If you want, try petitioning them to make one for Arthur as well. :)
 
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To be precise, DLC stands for DownLoadable Content - Which can be implemented in any way a developer sees fit really.
That's factually wrong. An acronym's name shouldn't be automatically taken as its literal meaning. DLC was created(and popularized) for the specific purpose of adding content on top of an already existing game.

From the :
Downloadable content (DLC) is additional content created for an already released video game(...)
As much as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea thinks it's a democracy, and that you think DLC can be anything that is downloadable, neither are correct.
 

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That's factually wrong. An acronym's name shouldn't be automatically taken as its literal meaning. DLC was created(and popularized) for the specific purpose of adding content on top of an already existing game.

From the :


As much as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea thinks it's a democracy, and that you think DLC can be anything that is downloadable, neither are correct.
To be precise, DLC stands for DownLoadable Content - Which can be implemented in any way a developer sees fit really FOR THE ALREADY CREATED GAME <- sorry I did not make it clear it was for the same game of cause. Damn son.

Here are the words from Starke:

Starke — Today at 3:30 AM
DLC is downloadable content
What is that?
Downloadable content
I'm gonna refer to it as DLC
Fleeting Iris IF is a side project
[D]own[L]oadable [C]ontent
 

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I recently started exploring the Fallen state in the game. I found that even though i stayed exclusive to Melvin's route, the dialogue made it sound like if Ayame was banging half the town. The way I played it, the only men Ayame had sex with were Melvin, Matt, those two guys in the bathroom, and later on Ralph. Granted, she's hardly little miss purity anymore, but neither is she the indiscriminate slut that the fallen dialogue makes her out to be. Hell for her to get Melvin's endings, it required her to stay loyal to him, and even refuse sex from members of other routes. Also, in Clarke's ending Ayame says how she was raped by Melvin. With the removal of the vaginal penetration scene, Melvin never really got to rape her. He molested her yes, but did not rape her (not that either one is good mind you). And the scene where Clarke takes Ayame for the first time, I hope that Starke will rewrite it for a virgin Ayame. I guess in a nutshell, I'm hoping that some dialogue changes are made to better reflect all the choices that a player can make in the game. I know it's probably gotten alot bigger than any of the devs ever imagined it becoming when they first started making it, and changes had to be made accordingly. Just throwing this out there, hoping to help make an already good game slightly better. :)
 
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I recently started exploring the Fallen state in the game. I found that even though i stayed exclusive to Melvin's route, the dialogue made it sound like if Ayame was banging half the town. The way I played it, the only men Ayame had sex with were Melvin, Matt, those two guys in the bathroom, and later on Ralph. Granted, she's hardly little miss purity anymore, but neither is she the indiscriminate slut that the fallen dialogue makes her out to be. Hell for her to get Melvin's endings, it required her to stay loyal to him, and even refuse sex from members of other routes. Also, in Clarke's ending Ayame says how she was raped by Melvin. With the removal of the vaginal penetration scene, Melvin never really got to rape her. He molested her yes, but did not rape her (not that either one is good mine you). And the scene where Clarke takes Ayame for the first time, I hope that Starke will rewrite it for a virgin Ayame. I guess in a nutshell, I'm hoping that some dialogue changes are made to better reflect all the choices that a player can make in the game. I know it's probably gotten alot bigger than any of the devs ever imagined it becoming when they first started making it, and changes had to be made accordingly. Just throwing this out there, hoping to help make an already good game slightly better. :)
Thanks for the info - You are properly right, the thing about the Clarke route sounds right, because the first scenes have been updated and dialogues later have properly not been.
The thing about fallen state - IDK, think there is a good chance if you play and gets fallen state, you try to test out events in town right? There are already now a good amount of free-roam content and more will come. So if people play the open routes(melvin/sato) they will properly always try at least some of the free-roam, making her a bit slutty.
Anyway I will forward your critique to Starke - Thx.
 
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To be precise, DLC stands for DownLoadable Content - Which can be implemented in any way a developer sees fit really FOR THE ALREADY CREATED GAME <- sorry I did not make it clear it was for the same game of cause. Damn son.

Here are the words from Starke:

Starke — Today at 3:30 AM
DLC is downloadable content
What is that?
Downloadable content
I'm gonna refer to it as DLC
Fleeting Iris IF is a side project
[D]own[L]oadable [C]ontent

:FacePalm:

DLC has to be integrated into the original game, otherwise, it's not DLC.

A standalone side-project, even if it takes place in the same universe as the original game, is not DLC.

Again, you and whoever else are free to call it DLC, as North Korea is free to call itself a democracy, neither are correct.
 

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Thanks for the info - You are properly right, the thing about the Clarke route sounds right, because the first scenes have been updated and dialogues later have properly not been.
The thing about fallen state - IDK, think there is a good chance if you play and gets fallen state, you try to test out events in town right? There are already now a good amount of free-roam content and more will come. So if people play the open routes(melvin/sato) they will properly always try at least some of the free-roam, making her a bit slutty.
Anyway I will forward your critique to Starke - Thx.
Thanks dude. And I understand why he wrote it the way he did. It's only natural to assume that anyone who has progressed that far into Melvin's route would be slutting around town :sneaky:. But not everyone does that, and I think some of the writing should reflect that choice. Thank you again, and have a really goodnight. :)
 
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:FacePalm:

DLC has to be integrated into the original game, otherwise, it's not DLC.

A standalone side-project, even if it takes place in the same universe as the original game, is not DLC.

Again, you and whoever else are free to call it DLC, as North Korea is free to call itself a democracy, neither are correct.
People understand the word and meaning of DLC, and since out of all the extra content being developed for FI, around 90% is actually implemented into the game as your describe above, but the rest, about 10% is not.......
We will just use the word DLC, but thanks for the feedback :coffee:
 

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People understand the word and meaning of DLC, and since out of all the extra content being developed for FI, around 90% is actually implemented into the game as your describe above, but the rest, about 10% is not.......
We will just use the word DLC, but thanks for the feedback :coffee:
The word 'content' is what's causing problems, since it is used to refer to something that is contained, for example 'the contents of your bag'. So DLC is supposed to be housed within something else to fulfill 'content' part of that acronym, and a separate project even set in the same universe by definition isn't 'content'.

However, I really don't feel all that strongly about whether Starke calls it DLC or not, I'm just pointing out why the language is causing confusion.
 

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The word 'content' is what's causing problems, since it is used to refer to something that is contained, for example 'the contents of your bag'. So DLC is supposed to be housed within something else to fulfill 'content' part of that acronym, and a separate project even set in the same universe by definition isn't 'content'.

However, I really don't feel all that strongly about whether Starke calls it DLC or not, I'm just pointing out why the language is causing confusion.
Its not that I don't agree with any of you - Its really not... its just kind of..... not that important really.
But sure sure, we can discuss it some more if that's what is important.

When announced back in the good old days(5-6 years ago when development started on this game) THEN there was voting on these types of extra content the plan was actually to release it as DLC's. AND that have always been the plan.

Its actually only here in recent times(around 1 month ago or so) it was decided to release "some of the content" as standalone.
This was because of various reasons: 1. Easy to avoid patreon restrictions this way, 2. Option to improve that content in the improved version of the engine(higer ress), 3. It's more easy to speak about the total package of extra content as the word DLC to patreons, since it comes out in small patches each month.

So yeah a bit of the content like mr. NTR lover says is properly not what you call DLC.
And so what really ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

For you guys we can call it "EXTRA CONTENT" if that floats your boat.
 
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How about calling it an expansion pack. There are alot of pc games (the Command and Conquer series being an example) that had additional stand alone content that while not big enough to be considered a stand alone game, was also not considered small enough to be a simple game add on or dlc. These were called expansion packs. If it helps for the sake of diplomacy, just call it an expansion pack. :)
 
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It kind of is updated. There have been a few changes but nothing that you will take note of properly.
The only thing there are missing is Free-Roam diagram which I am working on as we speak.
Yes, I mean the guide for free roaming. If I'm not mistaken, starting from the 1.0.1 update to the latest, there are some additions that are not in the main game. I can't know what the additions are because they are missing or incomplete in the changelog. Usually we can see here but now it's been deleted. I hope you can create a guide for free roaming.
Thank You
 

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Hmm weird, you have a save ?
And did you use old saves, cheat or teleport ring ?
Nothing at all, this is a save before the first scene, when you choose "she like it" second scene works fine, when you choose "didnt like her" this bug happens, all new saves from 0 with this version. It happend with 1.04 too, same issue.
 
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Nothing at all, this is a save before the first scene, when you choose "she like it" second scene works fine, when you choose "didnt like her" this bug happens, all new saves from 0 with this version. It happend with 1.04 too, same issue.
Thanks that's clearly a bug - It have been reported and will be fixed for next bug-patch version.
I would refer you to the gallery for the other variation, and perhaps play ahead with "She likes it" version in your game.
 
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