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Ayame#1Fan

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He said it will start from the fallen state in the podcast, that requires free roam to be achieved... i guess it will not be related to family route, and it will be more similar to early Melvin's route ( she will become more aquainted with Jack little by little, cause doing it with her stopson is different from doing it with a non-related man). I also guess it will have different scenes due to this different approach, there are almost no reused scenes in Fleeting Iris, so this route will probably have new scenes too.
Logic and common sense are a beautiful thing aren't they? This should be the official answer instead of "no one really knows".

Fallen state requires you to go deep enough in Melvin's route or Melvin's+Sato's if you didn't quit the latter so no, it won't be part of the Family Route.

This game doesn't re-use assets, it will be it's own thing probably playing out like the rest of the routes, you can play some bits while being on other routes and near the end getting locked into it. I assume the route will play completely different from the way it does in the Family Route (pity mixed with blackmail) since it requires Ayame to be in the Fallen state.
 

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Logic and common sense are a beautiful thing aren't they? This should be the official answer instead of "no one really knows".

Fallen state requires you to go deep enough in Melvin's route or Melvin's+Sato's if you didn't quit the latter so no, it won't be part of the Family Route.

This game doesn't re-use assets, it will be it's own thing probably playing out like the rest of the routes, you can play some bits while being on other routes and near the end getting locked into it. I assume the route will play completely different from the way it does in the Family Route (pity mixed with blackmail) since it requires Ayame to be in the Fallen state.
Yeah i guess i should have connected that, my bad. Still, I think the game's Fallen state is a little inconsistent. Admittedly, I only played fallen about once or twice, mainly to get Sato's endings. It's not something that appeals to me personally. But i just assumed that your morality had to be at 20 or less to reach it. And yet, in both the Clarke and Melvin routes your morality goes to zero. And yet the game doesn't consider you Fallen. Is this an oversight on the part of the developers? Or does the game just define fallen as someone so corrupted and jaded that they can't or won't commit to anyone or anything (in this case, a route)?
 
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Ayame#1Fan

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Yeah i guess i should have connected that, my bad. Still, I think the game's Fallen state is a little inconsistent. Admittedly, I only played fallen about once or twice, mainly to get Sato's endings. It's not something that appeals to me personally. But i just assumed that your morality had to be at 20 or less to reach it. And yet, in both the Clarke and Melvin routes your morality goes to zero. And yet the game doesn't consider you Fallen. Is this an oversight on the part of the developers? Or does the game just define fallen as someone so corrupted and jaded that they can't or won't commit to anyone or anything (in this case, a route)?
Fallen is not tied to morality, it's tied to progress so you have to achieve a certain point in the game, not have a certain morality. You can't have Fallen in Clarke's, I'm 100% sure of this.
 

Zellemate

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New weekly podcast is out - Go watch it now ->


It's a bit shorter then last time, but a lot of good info for any Heaven Studios fan - Have fun!
 

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There are 2 download links in main page one is full game and the other is the patch. The main link have the hallowen patch inside or i have to download both ?
 

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There are 2 download links in main page one is full game and the other is the patch. The main link have the hallowen patch inside or i have to download both ?
Main download have both - Patch if you had the earlier version.
 
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FireV3

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Just finished all the content in the game and man I had a good time, can someone recommend me more games like this? I'll really appreciate it
 

liubeizhao

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Hi Zellemate

thanks for the good game, seems the game still under development, but also feeling the game is already complete, there are many ending now, so you are developting for more route? Or you are extending the existing route?
 
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Zellemate

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Hi Zellemate

thanks for the good game, seems the game still under development, but also feeling the game is already complete, there are many ending now, so you are developting for more route? Or you are extending the existing route?
The next years time the game will get a ton of updates where many of these are free-roam events that will add to the open world of Heaven City - There will also be added extra / extended routes to the game, and there are also a few "un-confirmed" routes that Starke would love to add - but depending on budget we will see how many of those will actually be made.

Current road-Map:
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Ayame#1Fan

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Well, according to the podcast 2, the new update should drop around 15th January with the missing scenes from previous patch.
It's like you guys actively try to misinterpret things, he said the 15th as an example of how dissimulating patches would work and only if they decided to do it which hasn't been decided, he also stated that dissimulating patches would make it so that they could get rid of release dates and deadlines. You managed to twist everything he said, somehow.
 
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Zellemate

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This game is one of the best game. Only thing is need to change for me is
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It's simply because what you seek is implemented in other routes of the game.
The game have 10 routes including several subroutes which makes 19 in total - You should try them out, use the guide to help you -> Here
 

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It's simply because what you seek is implemented in other routes of the game.
The game have 10 routes including several subroutes which makes 19 in total - You should try them out, use the guide to help you -> Here

hi bro, i have 1 suggest, 1 question

1. switch some short routes to sub-relationship or free lancer job ------ the main story is the MC move to a new city, find a job and meet friends like normal life SIM, so the main story line is the Melven and Sato, and by time goes, switch the career to nurse or office,
but if you look at the other route which is short and nothing to do with the main story line, like Clark, neighbor, kitty, pornstar, it fee like sudden turn the direction and game end.

so what i recomand is dont make family, Clark, neighbor, kitty, pornstar as a route and lead to game end, but just a sex partner or part time job.


2. do you have plan to extend the oldman route? like the pub misstress, very like it, but feel its too short.
 

Zellemate

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hi bro, i have 1 suggest, 1 question

1. switch some short routes to sub-relationship or free lancer job ------ the main story is the MC move to a new city, find a job and meet friends like normal life SIM, so the main story line is the Melven and Sato, and by time goes, switch the career to nurse or office,
but if you look at the other route which is short and nothing to do with the main story line, like Clark, neighbor, kitty, pornstar, it fee like sudden turn the direction and game end.

so what i recomand is dont make family, Clark, neighbor, kitty, pornstar as a route and lead to game end, but just a sex partner or part time job.


2. do you have plan to extend the oldman route? like the pub misstress, very like it, but feel its too short.
All suggestions are welcomed, and are best received via our discord where Starke(The main developer) can check them out himself. That said - The game is in the final stretches, meaning suggestion like that are way to big and will not happen(Something similar have also been suggested before). The game Starke wants to make is purposely made with these routes in mind.

If it was up to Starke, and there was more support for this game(meaning money) there would properly be more with Arthur.... Heck there would properly be a lot more of all kinds of stuff. But since Heaven Studios have been dropping in patreons for a long time now, I would not expect any more with him sadly.(I would really love to see more with that old bastard myself) :LOL:
 
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Zellemate In terms of "what could be done" i feel like we are at point where scenes start look similar to each other. I at least had the impression of "hmmm i've seen this already" in the last patch.

The toilet scene - we already had quite a few toilet scenes, they look similar doh.
The officer scene reminds me of the Arthur kitchen scene. Also the BJ part similar'ish to the gym BJ scene.
The new preview reminds me of sato scene was it ? except there is extra dick on the other side.

I think it is because the scenes do not feature full characters / background. That officer scene wouldn't feel similar to another if i could see the officer & office.

Also there is the diminishing effect that getting more when you already have alot. (example if you have 20 apples and get 5 you will be far more excited then if you have 200 apples and get 5 more).
So i think people may be less excited for new scenes then you guys expect.

I suggested it in past already. I think that reusing previous scenes few times is fine, just tweak them as needed. If the art team only needs to change the male or Ayames hair/cloth i feel they can create far more new scenes that way. Or work on animations.

Also what is the plan in regards to "suspicion patch" ? because it not on the roadmap.
 
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