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hemorrhaging - here's the last year of BTC:
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If it's such a massive concern, just use a stable coin instead like USDT. It's pinned to the price of the US dollar.
Crypto is on its face one of the most unstable currencies mired in controversy not to mention the unending legal ramifications of and scamming and embezzling associated with major stablecoins. In your libertarian fantasy world where these things work smoothly and as intended I can see this working out, but the reality is, anyone who doesn't have their frontal lobe missing is going to follow profits and not the financial suicide cults of terminal bag holders.
 

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Crypto is on its face one of the most unstable currencies mired in controversy not to mention the unending legal ramifications of and scamming and embezzling associated with major stablecoins. In your libertarian fantasy world where these things work smoothly and as intended I can see this working out, but the reality is, anyone who doesn't have their frontal lobe missing is going to follow profits and not the financial suicide cults of terminal bag holders.
I've never seen anyone so terrified of crypto in my life. Thanks for sharing.
 

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so you would be happy if they said "our scumsucking payment overlords" instead?
They don't even need to go all the way into "scumsucking payment overlords". Only not using euphemisms is enough.

and risk getting banned?
They wouldn't.
Those payment processors are worried about brand damage. If they decided to ban itch io because itch io said the truth, instead of smearing euphemisms over it, their role in censorship would be even more evident, and so the amount of brand damage they'd get from siding with Collective Shout would be bigger.

that's just words.
Words matter. Less than actions, but they still matter, even if you pretend otherwise.

do you think they enjoy bending the knee? of course they dont
I don't care about what they "enjoy" or not. I care about what they "do".


You deleted your account before waiting to see what they're going to do? lol
Bet you didn't delete your steam account.
Your "lol" and your assumption make me conclude this subject might be a bit too complex for something like you. As such, you can be safely ignored as braindead noise.
 

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Your "lol" and your assumption make me conclude this subject might be a bit too complex for something like you. As such, you can be safely ignored as braindead noise.
Woe is me, for i'm too dumb to understand the nuances of deleting an account. If only I was as smart as you!
lol
 
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They don't even need to go all the way into "scumsucking payment overlords". Only not using euphemisms is enough.

They wouldn't.
Those payment processors are worried about brand damage. If they decided to ban itch io because itch io said the truth, instead of smearing euphemisms over it, their role in censorship would be even more evident, and so the amount of brand damage they'd get from siding with Collective Shout would be bigger.

Words matter. Less than actions, but they still matter, even if you pretend otherwise.

I don't care about what they "enjoy" or not. I care about what they "do".
instead of feeling sorry for itch, and angry at their overlords, you are angry at itch for having to bend the knee. you dont insult your overlord when bending the knee if you wanna keep your head. get real.
and so they lost you. good riddance, i say.
 

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Don't think they can do anything. To do any difference, big companies and big names should stand for defence, but since their money will be under threat, they won'to do it. I maybe too negative and pessimistic, but days of total global censorship are coming.
One hope I can maybe see is JCB but it's not super likely
" JCB stopped issuing cards in the American market on January 8, 2018, and closed all current consumer credit card accounts on April 30, 2018, primarily due to a lack of demand and competition from other major credit card networks like Visa and MasterCard. Although JCB cards were accepted through a partnership with Discover Network, the company decided to exit the U.S. market entirely "

I figure the only way they come back and try to make a market in america again is 1. people make a clear and loud message to them that we want competition for Visa, Mastercard, Discover, American Express. 2. they arn't knee-capped by lobbyist from those companies getting congress to stop them with regulations etc...

The other semi hope i have is crypto it obviously thrives on the darkweb which shows that aslong as their is a demand a market will exist even if it is a neutered version of what we had before :(

to be fair im far from an expert on this topic so maybe i've missed other solutions or didn't have a full understanding of what laws and regulations might already be disrupting them from coming over.
 
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"content glorifying sexual violence". :unsure: I do wonder - what about femdom games? I mean that clearly falls under. Ahh right, I got it. They have to protect them from themselves because every woman has to be a brave house maid. Is that it?

EDIT: because it wasnt obvious it seems: the question is rethorical, no i dont care particulary on femdom games, just something additional to add since I searched, yet no one noticed that part. Besides this isnt even rly LGTBQ, just another fetish. It's just funny how its againt what woman very clearly want (i mean more than fe rape where you need statistics) and they claim to protect.
 
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instead of feeling sorry for itch, and angry at their overlords, you are angry at itch for having to bend the knee.
Unless you have a functional crystal ball, focus on what is said, instead of assuming you know the emotional state of other people on the internet like a moron. You don't.

Also, stop oversimplifying it. I'm blaming all three here: Collective Shout, and payment providers, and itch io. It is not an "instead" matter.

you dont insult your overlord when bending the knee if you wanna keep your head. get real.
So instead of fighting back, you say "thank you, Master! Your boot is delicious. May I keep licking it, even if I'm a filthy thing?" That's it?

People like you are why society is in the awful state it is. Oh wait, a person shows backbone, a grovelling thing is not a person.

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And I'm going to say this again, because the oversimplifying idiot in the quote is clearly too dumb to not distort what others say:

I'm not even proposing itch io should go all the way into attacking those payment services. Just not defend them with corporate language full of euphemisms. Calling them "partners" and shit like this.
 
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Remember when payment processors targeted all the gory, incestuous and "age" content on pixiv and most people didnt care beause the content they were defending was wrong and disgusting, and some people, me included, even shame those pervs when they tried to warn us that our beloved content was going to be next?

I do, and I guess I and everyone else owe them an apology because they were right.
 

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"content glorifying sexual violence". :unsure: I do wonder - what about femdom games? I mean that clearly falls under. Ahh right, I got it. They have to protect them from themselves because every woman has to be a brave house maid. Is that it?
The goal of Collective Shout is probably to distort what is considered "sexual violence" until it encompasses everything sexual. And then include furry and LGBTQ+ content as "sexuality".
So you shouldn't worry just about femdom games, but all porn games. And games showing any sort of furry or gay content, regardless of being porn or not.
 
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Remember when payment processors targeted all the gory, incestuous and "age" content on pixiv and most people didnt care beause the content they were defending was wrong and disgusting, and some people, me included, even shame those pervs when they tried to warn us that our beloved content was going to be next?

I do, and I guess I and everyone else owe them an apology because they were right.
The canary in the mine is so inbred that it has a family circle, not a family tree.
Serious now: they always do things like this, they test the waters with unpopular content and then encroach more and more into popular content.
 
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Unless you have a functional crystal ball, focus on what is said, instead of assuming you know the emotional state of other people on the internet like a moron. You don't.

I'm blaming all three here: Collective Shout, and payment providers, and itch io. It is not an "instead" matter.
so did you cancel your credit cards? gonna use cash only from now on, that you withdraw by going to a bank teller?
didn't think so. but itch, you cancel. as i said, good riddance.

So instead of fighting back, you say "thank you, Master! Your boot is delicious. May I keep licking it, even if I'm a filthy thing?" That's it?
they didnt say that. having to exaggerate to make a point means you dont have a point
 
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so did you cancel your credit cards? gonna use cash only from now on, that you withdraw by going to a bank teller?
didn't think so. but itch, you cancel. as i said, good riddance.

" So instead of fighting back, you say "thank you, Master! Your boot is delicious. May I keep licking it, even if I'm a filthy thing?" That's it?"

they didnt say that. having to exaggerate to make a point means you dont have a point
They did exactly do that though. For me personally 2 products from Studiopirrate are not available anymore, to buy or download. And it's all over the net that happens to a lot of people with Games/Content. Geez I mean even Steam didn't Panic like that.
I understand it, it's their livelyhood at stake. You don't throw that away easily for integrity. I won't delete my account but Itch will go on the Gumroad/Patreon etc. list.
Very unlikely I will buy anymore. Not a big loss to them or me really, I only use it for Porn anyways.

And before you ask. I don't use Steam, I have a Mastercard still for the 2 things I have no other choice for, switched to American Express for most things I need a credit card for otherwise(JCB or Discover are sadly not available here).
 
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