All NSFW games on Itch are now hidden by default.

[Insanatee]

the latest updates section seems to have less and less updates recently, does the nsfw ban have anything to do with that ?

It's noon on a Tuesday bruv, the fuck you think people are doing right now?

 

[Anteron]

"When they came for x I did not stand up because I was not x.
.. and when they came for me, there was nobody left to stand up."

 

[Purplehat Productions]

I think it's clear that adult visual novels are going to need a hosting site specifically for them. What would be some good choices?

 

[YukitoNakamura]

I think it's clear that adult visual novels are going to need a hosting site specifically for them. What would be some good choices?

Best one right now is SubscribeStar.adult, if you don't want to go crypto. As for file hosting, best one is ProtonDrive.

 

[Purplehat Productions]

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But we need a way to advertise. Our games live and die by advertising.

 

[YukitoNakamura]

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But we need a way to advertise. Our games live and die by advertising.

Try more social media services. Don't stay only in the main ones. Try Nostr, Minds and others. I've got some good feedback on Nostr and Minds.
These days, social media are the real thing for advertising, unfortunately. Specially with gaming platforms taking a shit stance on adult games.
After I got shadowbanned by Itch, I made a page on my Website for my game. The shadowban was way before all this crap, back in the second week with the game up.

 

[Nuverotic]

I'm not sure how this will turn out, but it's not going to be good for anyone. Except maybe those feminist lunatics in Australia.

We have to fight fire with fire. There are a couple groups out there who are sending Emails to Visa/Mastercard/Itch/Patreon and you should ALL get in on that. This will be worse than gamergate because it's a lot of peoples livelihoods here.

1. It should be up to the individual to NOT look at material that is banned in their country. Not a blanket closure of all games across the world that are banned in one or two countries.

We have to work together on this or it won't just stop at Incest and BDSM games...

I feel very lucky that my game is legal everywhere but I know a lot of good devs who's games teeter on that line, and they've already been shut down... And that was their career... The worst part is, what do you expect them to do now? AI is coming and will soon take ALL of our jobs... And (I'm not making a political statement vs or for any political group here) but a lot of Republican and even some Democrats are fighting AGAINST Universal Income... So when AI takes all of our jobs, that's it... The poor and middle class will starve to death. You can't grow enough food to survive in a small backyard.

We have REALLY got to fight this hard. Fight against censorship. And fight FOR Universal Basic Income. Make your voices heard. Send Emails. And don't stop.

 

[Nuverotic]

The staff doesn't look at all the content in games. They mostly rely on reporting systems. That's why. It's not that they suddenly "have a issue" it's that they were suddenly forced to actually start looking at the content they were allowing to be posted.

Again, look at their rules which have been in place for at least a decade. If a developer either didn't read the rules or did and tried to pull a fast one ----- time was going to eventually catch up to them.

They don't give a flying fuck about indie 18+ games, specifically. They aren't gunning for anyone, in particular. They have a mission about "morality" - whether you agree with it or not -- but don't make it more nefarious than it may be.

You're wrong. It's incest games now but this is the same feminist group that wanted to ban GTA for violence against women. Not caring about the violence against men. So where does it end? It doesn't. They will keep banning things they don't agree with until the world is exactly how they want it. Which will never happen.

This is a slippery slope and it only starts with the worst of the worst. The seed has been planted. And if a small group of feminists can do this, imaging what happens when they get the Christian Zealots on board? And then the politicians...

 

[beerpig]

And if a small group of feminists can do this, imaging what happens when they get the Christian Zealots on board? And then the politicians...

It's worse: the people doing it are Christian zealots. The founder claims to be feminist but it's bullshit.
As I said a few comments ago: liberals can and should be blamed for the current censorship landscape but in this case it's coming from conservatives.

 

[Anteron]

You're wrong. It's incest games now but this is the same feminist group that wanted to ban GTA for violence against women. Not caring about the violence against men. So where does it end? It doesn't. They will keep banning things they don't agree with until the world is exactly how they want it. Which will never happen.

This is a slippery slope and it only starts with the worst of the worst. The seed has been planted. And if a small group of feminists can do this, imaging what happens when they get the Christian Zealots on board? And then the politicians...

That group ARE Christian zealots. Look at their anti-LGBT and such.

 

[Purplehat Productions]

I'm not sure how this will turn out, but it's not going to be good for anyone. Except maybe those feminist lunatics in Australia.

Let's be clear who the real enemy is. The feminist lunatics in Australia is just their current face.


These are people who will cry "THINK OF THE CHILDREN". but they don't give a fuck about the children.

And, of course, they conveniently ignore reasonable measures like age verification and disclaimers.

They're not doing this out of concern for others. They are doing it because they want power. And the only way they can gain power is to take it away from you.

There is an element of covert narcissism at work here. Covert narcissists will often use the tactic of saying "I'm just so concerned..." because that allows them to have a sense of moral superiority.

And they're not going to stop at this. When these people gain power, of course they're going to want more.

 

[YukitoNakamura]

That group ARE Christian zealots. Look at their anti-LGBT and such.

Itch has more LGBT projects than "christian" ones.

 

[Purplehat Productions]

And from what I'm seeing now about KOSA and the UK equivalent, that tells me this is a coordinated effort.

 

[YukitoNakamura]

And from what I'm seeing now about KOSA and the UK equivalent, that tells me this is a coordinated effort.

Only changes who put in effect. Like the Labour Party UK being the one to enact it, just like the Labour Party Brazil is trying to do.

 

[Purplehat Productions]

Doesn't matter which party. This is a coordinated effort. This is all happening now and I doubt all these groups suddenly decided they cared about "the children".

I make the game Re Education and here's a lesson for you: Adult content and comedy are partners. They are also both canaries in the coal mine.

You want to know which people to be afraid of? It's the ones who decree that you can't laugh about something. Tyrants do not have a sense of humor, especially when it comes to laughing about themselves.

 

[cron or]

It's worse: the people doing it are Christian zealots. The founder claims to be feminist but it's bullshit.
As I said a few comments ago: liberals can and should be blamed for the current censorship landscape but in this case it's coming from conservatives.

This.
As always useful idiots pushed for the creation of repression mechanisms that are ultimately used against them, in spite of every single person with a brain telling them it will end badly. But who cares about that when you are on "TheRightSideOfHistory"(tm) and will always win, right?

 

[BETiLose34]

No, that game was removed for the following three reasons:
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Not just "incest", but also "rape" and "sleep sex" (which is nonconsensual sex)

It doesn't have to be "mind-shattering extreme" just in violation. Also, "mind control" depending upon the situation is also nonconsensual. If it has to do with sex, that is a fourth reason.

is it actually breaking their tos though?

" We don’t allow hosting content that includes sexualized images or videos of real-life humans. Fictional, illustrated, and rendered content is generally fine, assuming it’s legal. AI-generated imagery that is designed to resemble photographic content of real people is not allowed. Content glorifying sexual violence is not permitted. Depictions of minors, minor-presenting, or suggested minors in a sexual context are not allowed and will result in account suspension. "

incest isn't on there, second what does glorifying sexual violence mean?

is this there idea of glorifying Sexual assault "

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sadly as I said in my previous post you ignored, itch has not been forth coming on what qualifies as glorifying sexual violence.

Honestly I wouldn't care so much that you purposely ignore the legitimate reasons people have to be worried if you wern't constantly saying you don't agree with the payment processors and pretending to be an ally while constantly downplaying the seriousness of the situation.

You claim to be against the misinformation being spread in this thread and yet as i've already pointed out in other post you're not being genuine at all. From blaming devs for what is 100% itch's fault to saying everything the processors are doing is completely legal ignoring the very valid argument that depending on what happens if anybody decided to take them to court they might be found to have broken anti-trust laws, and even when you chastised someone for being worried that f95zone was next when there is already a prime example of f95zone banning certain material that may cause too much heat for them to handle.

Honestly though it's pretty clear that you won't stop trying to undermine the movement so the least I can do is inform the rest of the forum about all the shit you decided to ignore

for anyone else who wants to see some twisted similarities between the vagueness of rules that rely on "obscene"
the copying from one western nation to the next, how they use "protecting the children" as an excuse to strip you of your rights then give this a read it's a short opinion piece that oddly shares similarities with our current situation and sadly as I posted in a different post legislators(atleast in the usa) are not required to prove something is harmful to kids they only need to assume it.

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[-R1ck-]

so....... the new Itch io guidelines.

Can already see some fav games getting nuked off the site already based on that?

 

[MissCougar]

Let's be clear who the real enemy is. The feminist lunatics in Australia is just their current face.


These are people who will cry "THINK OF THE CHILDREN". but they don't give a fuck about the children.

And, of course, they conveniently ignore reasonable measures like age verification and disclaimers.

They're not doing this out of concern for others. They are doing it because they want power. And the only way they can gain power is to take it away from you.

There is an element of covert narcissism at work here. Covert narcissists will often use the tactic of saying "I'm just so concerned..." because that allows them to have a sense of moral superiority.

And they're not going to stop at this. When these people gain power, of course they're going to want more.

I'm not sure there is some "real enemy".

There are multiple facets at play that powers want to have:

• The ability to censor things they don't like
• Remove anonymity from the internet

Honestly the internet is large enough it's effectively a public square at this point and the dream that you would be anonymous forever on it was not going to hold water for long.

Basically the age group of people who know about the internet are starting to get into positions of power, and the people who didn't know what a computer was or how powerful they are are aging out.

This change of awareness will make it harder to push an internet anonymity concept over because they know the internet is stupid and vile but it's also the main source of truth.

Once people saw the writing officially on the wall for mainstream media no longer being able to control a narrative- well these powerful groups weren't going to just sit back and go "golly we lost", they'll just assume authority over the thing they have deemed they need to control.

Best foot in the door is saving the kids from the horrors of something no good politician is going to dare to try to fight against, it's career suicide.

All these feminists are just the scape goats. People will hate them while changes are done that don't even ultimately benefit them, but they will be "the root of all evil" until the foothold is strong enough nobody can back out. You get the US and other western countries to enact similar stuff using similar or the same technology and presto, you have regained control of the narrative.

You can wipe out as much or as little as you like, and hit them in the pocket book and ability for people to access that content and you win. Not many things can at scale with no income for very long and with access cut off for most users who are casual at best.

I think the days of an internet for the world are coming to an end and you'll probably have subdivisions for different countries. You'll also need to always be who you are with your real name associated with everything you do and everywhere you go online with the added fear of everything also being actively monitored by AI for some transgression that will get you fined or arrested based on the content.

Enjoy what exists today while it lasts!

Doesn't matter which party. This is a coordinated effort. This is all happening now and I doubt all these groups suddenly decided they cared about "the children".

I make the game Re Education and here's a lesson for you: Adult content and comedy are partners. They are also both canaries in the coal mine.

You want to know which people to be afraid of? It's the ones who decree that you can't laugh about something. Tyrants do not have a sense of humor, especially when it comes to laughing about themselves.

There is an old adage about figuring out who really controls you by finding the group of people you're not allowed to make jokes about or laugh at. It tends to hold water even today.

 

[DarkEnchanter]

so....... the new Itch io guidelines.

Can already see some fav games getting nuked off the site already based on that?

Yes, games made by all developers who made the mistake of using the "incest"-tag on Itch.io

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Perhaps some other tags too.

Those games where the respective developer was "smart" / "cautious" (or whatever) enough to not use those tags on Itch.io in the past are not affected by it and are still accessable at Itch.io regardless of the content, if you know the link of the game-subwebsite.