VN Ren'Py Alternate Existence [S2 v2.2.1] [MrKnobb]

[gregers]

This.
I think the tags are jumping the gun right now and should be removed.
Does it have a harem and incest right now? Fuck no it doesnt!
Will it have a harem and incest? Fuck yeah it will!

Right now it has an intriguing story, FANTASTIC renders, interesting characters and a few problematic elements, (Unskippable voyeurism), which are being worked on by the Dev. I am one of those who do not like Voyeurism and very loudly pointed out the parts where the game could be improved by simply adding a skip or removing them.

And yea know what happened?
The dev listened to the feed back, engaged with people in the forum, and offered a fair compromise for people's issues without compromising the story they want to tell!
That is faaaar more then can be said for most Develops who'd just tell people to get fucked if they didn't like it.
Does it perfectly solve my issues with the game? No.
Does it show me that the dev will listen to feed back and make me give him the benefit of the doubt for future chapters? YES!

Seriously, people need to ease up off his dick about things. The developer is taking in feedback and seeing what works for his story, that is all a player base can ask of their developers. I am 100% sure he will see how chapters 1/2 went and peoples reaction to it and make changes in his plan for the future. Just takes time for us to all see it. Got to give the man time to work.

So again, I say.
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I'm not a fan of voyeurism either, but to me the far more concerning issue (because it can't just be skipped past) is the MC having all the personality and force of character of a wet dishrag. He showed a tiny bit of backbone early on by twice refusing Anne's offer, but ever since then he's been crawling around in a perpetual state of confused apology. I have seen no indications of a personality beyond that.

I don't need the MC to be MEGACHAD THE ALLRULING, far from it (and so far it's early in his journey, wherever it may lead), but to maintain my interest he must at least have some sliver of personality, perhaps even just a smidgen of willpower. Haven't really seen any of that yet.

 

[sakuyas_mmaster]

thanks, yeah something is wrong there. Since I reinstalled the game just to test it for you again and had no problems seeing the animation with these red eyes I can't lay my finger on the problem. the picture you get after the 90 minutes screen should become a little blury after a second and the next click should start the animation. I will record it for you, so you can at least see it until we find out what the problem is.

the little gaps at the left and right edges are normal and not part of the problem, I had these myself.

I think I found the problem. I deleted the game again. Then crawled through the %appdata% subfolders to find if there is anything related to this game. Found one and removed it. There were savegame files and some persistent thing. Afterwards I installed the game anew and tried again and now I finally see the red eyes animation. Also suddenly I see a ton of these orange text transitions between scenes, that I didn't see before either.

My hunch is, that this persistent file in the %appdata% sub folder was from the first release. And it perhaps messed up how the current one behaves. I have never seen that in any other renpy game before.

 

[HornyyPussy]

Yeah, because using form of speech does totally not contribute to how it is received and this suggestion should have been taken at face value and completely was a suggestion and not a "why don't you marry you characters if you love them so much" tantrum. Also, I thought since Alanis Morrissette people understood what "irony" is, but apparently it is still being used wrongly.



Ah, calling other people simps and similar because they just happen to agree with the author. Sure sign of an honest discussion by distinguished gentlemen. Can easily be taken the other way round, can't it?



What people need to understand is that tags on F95 do not mean "this fetish will be fulfilled" but "this is what happens at least once". If there is one instance of a kink in the game, it will go in the tags, even though it will not satisfy those who like this kink necessarily. So you can use tags better as a negative than as a positive - if there is no tag "vaginal sex" in a game, then nothing will happen, but see somebody not even related to the story fucking in a distance - whoomp, tag must be there.



Quoted for later reference.

As usual Carta, concise and to the point!

 

[Darkhound]

I decided to record it to show you how it looks for me.

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I think the "picture" of him with eyes closed is not a still image. But the eyes don't open. In the clip I wait here until moving the mouse cursor over MC's eyes and then to his ear. Then I click and instantly get the title animation. I noticed though, that there is a little gap at the left and right edges of the title animation. Like, the title animations seems to overlay over the scene behind it? I have no idea what is going on. I removed and reinstalled the game before making this clip.

Here, I recorded for you whats not working for you so you know at least what it is with the red eyes:

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[The ArcKnight]

Here, I recorded for you whats not working for you so you know at least what it is with the red eyes:

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OOoooooooooh!
That is extremely subtle so I missed it, I thought MC was just blinking and didnt notice his eyes were very faintly glowing red...

 

[qwsl]

Cartageno I started understand it after year on f95, but most people - still not (especially - aggressive accounts with 0-100 posts and rep - they even not waste time for read forum rules, game header for once)

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And of course I wish the author good luck, and I hope he finds his way and does not abandon the story on half way.

P.S.:

He showed a tiny bit of backbone early on by twice refusing Anne's offer, but ever since then he's been crawling around in a perpetual state of confused apology. I have seen no indications of a personality beyond that.

- she use her POWER and make him homeless - so he decided, why not try to get an education, a roof over his head and full board, instead of spending the nights in the park on a bench?

 

[BitTorah]

wow completely missed this one! what a great game

 

[gregers]

Cartageno I started understand it after year on f95, but most people - still not (especially - aggressive accounts with 0-100 posts and rep - they even not waste time for read forum rules, game header for once)

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And of course I wish the author good luck, and I hope he finds his way and does not abandon the story on half way.

P.S.: - she use her POWER and make him homeless - so he decided, why not try to get an education, a roof over his head and full board, instead of spending the nights in the park on a bench?

I would agree that what we've seen of Anne's character so far (the scheming bitch pulling strings to force the MC to dance to her tune, grooming him like a boytoy) would be a more traditional fit for a femdom game (the MC's compliant character so far would probably also fit better as a sub), but I haven't seen anything from the dev to suggest that's where they want to take this. There will need to be some serious character development over the coming episodes if they're to switch up that scenario.

 

[RustyCooter]

I do like this game but I was one of the people who was suckered in by the tags and pictures. Read the overview but not the warning crap. I don't look through the posts before I play a game because no matter what people always spoil shit. I'm just not into voyeurism crap when it involves characters you know is going to be LI's. The whole it's story driven excuse is lame. It's just for the voyeur kink lovers to get their rocks off. If that's your thing cool. But voyeurism and harem lovers usually are not of the same mind. I don't mind it to a certain extent. When it's random strangers not a LI. I think it's hot to watch strangers fuck when you got your girl with you(in games and in RL). Anyways I'm going to continue the game. I just hope all the this "story driven" fucking between other characters is about over or the use of the word "rare" needs to be changed in the warning. Oh and why TF is the warning info considered a spoiler? It's not! If the info was put into the main overview it would prevent some bitching. Just saying.

 

[Cartageno]

And now if you want to put all the scenes in voyer
Then just let me give you a best example what is voyer
It is used when there is a scene were we see completely unknown couple having sex
Not to include a future Li of mc by showing him how she is having sex with other guys
(...)
But nowadays developer use voyer tag to just hide the darkest secrets of there game
So players will not find out that there future Li is having sex with other man in front of mc

In the end it is not the dev who decides which tags you get (well, other than by putting the respective content in). So if you see a wrong tag, go ahead and report it.

However: you are wrong here, as far as it pertains to the tags used on this forum. The definition of "voyeurism" is "Spying on people engaged in sexual behavior including stripping." - as stated in the forum rules. So no matter what you or me or anybody else in this thread may think, secretly watching an LI doing "stuff" needs to get this tag. The question of whether they are unknown people or known people does not arise.

Cartageno I started understand it after year on f95, but most people - still not

To be fair, it isn't too obvious. When I search for some fetish I like, get results, and they're less than what I expected however, I need to question what happened. And if you think it through, it can't really be any other way because any two people will disagree on whether a certain amount of content is enough to qualify as satisfying the NTR kink or the MILF kink or the Pineapple Pizza kink.

Very well “said”. I think a lot of developers, new and old, think there must be sexual content each update to keep people satisfied when a lot of people are willing to wait to be satisfied. Look at Summers Gone, look at the support it receives with ZERO sex so far.

Oh, how I would love you to be correct. Some games manage pretty well, but there will always be players complaining about being blueballed for months (even if it was only one update so far) and similar, especially not realizing that development time does not mean in-game time. And - combined with the "too long between updates" crew, this order of "not enough content, and by content I mean I fuck the mom in all her holes every update" tends to be the most aggressive and makes pro and con NTR discussions seem like cuddly kittens having a ball. And yes, then some devs will insert scenes just for the sake of there being scenes. Dreams are a lazy way out but may work. Secondary characters however will always depend on the setting.

 

[TheSidewinder]

Has anyone figured out how to unlock this scene in the gallery? I'll spoiler it in case anyone hasn't got that far into the game yet.

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I've played every combination of choices up to the point in the game where the next scene unlocks, the first inage on the left of the next row, but I'll be damned if I can get this one to unlock.

 

[Darkhound]

Has anyone figured out how to unlock this scene in the gallery? I'll spoiler it in case anyone hasn't got that far into the game yet.

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I've played every combination of choices up to the point in the game where the next scene unlocks, the first inage on the left of the next row, but I'll be damned if I can get this one to unlock.

To answer your question, that should be the much discussed Anne-Threesome-Scene with the two Escorts. For now it should unlock when you see it, until the update with the look/dont look option arrives.

When did you download the game? And did you install the incest-patch?

 

[gregers]

Has anyone figured out how to unlock this scene in the gallery? I'll spoiler it in case anyone hasn't got that far into the game yet.

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I've played every combination of choices up to the point in the game where the next scene unlocks, the first inage on the left of the next row, but I'll be damned if I can get this one to unlock.

That's the threesome scene with Anne and the two prostitutes. Best guess would be a missing trigger in the incest patch, if you're playing with that.

 

[TheSidewinder]

I restarted the game with the latest version 1.2.1 which I downloaded today, just over an hour ago.

But no choice appeared to see or not see that scene with the escorts, it just proceeded past it.

And yes, I'm using the i-patch. Is that the issue?

EDIT: Ah, ok, I'll try it without the patch and see what happens.

FURTHER EDIT: Nope it won't unlock even on a fresh install, and it didn't give any choice to watch it or not. But from Darkhound's words, it looks as though a further update is coming that will provide a choice to watch it.... maybe that will trigger it to unlock.

 

[Gavrilo Princip]

You should only ever be 1 incest patch in the game folder at a time.





So you missed the Eye's bit hu?.
really seriously why do I f-kin bother.

and when i put that 1 with aunt working 1 minute ! overwrite with mother patch and that 1 work 1 minute and stop !

 

[qwsl]

Gavrilo Princip becouse patch make changes in text only, not names labels
https://f95zone.to/threads/alternate-existence-s1-ep-2-v1-2-1-mrknobb.70125/page-7#post-5488162 just edit it (btw, patch make game a bit bugged)

 

[memoxcep]

Looks good. Is there any femdom?

 

[The ArcKnight]

Looks good. Is there any femdom?

No.
Not sure if its in the planned content either.

 

[Gavrilo Princip]

Gavrilo Princip becouse patch make changes in text only, not names labels
https://f95zone.to/threads/alternate-existence-s1-ep-2-v1-2-1-mrknobb.70125/page-7#post-5488162 just edit it (btw, patch make game a bit bugged)

I have mom patch but game read mom 1 minute and change to woman or aunt and in text is mom !

 

[Darkhound]

I have mom patch but game read mom 1 minute and change to woman or aunt and in text is mom !

Sounds like mixed up patches to me. delete everything regarding the incest-patches and redownload the one provided in the main-post. Maybe make a new, clean install of the game too, just to be safe.