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laeg15

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AE's proofreader here.

You know what's funny?
AE's story is completely planned out already. (plot points, events, etc...)
The Dev DID think about his story, and what you're seeing is the way he decided to make it unfold.

Also, I hope I won't make anyone on the AE's dev team angry by saying this, but...
To everyone saying stuff like "same old underdog story" "not liking the story" "the story is all over the place" etc...
Mates, you've seen ALMOST NOTHING of the story yet.

If we split a normal game into Characters Presentation --> Story --> Ending, then you can consider AE still at the Characters Presentation phase.
Keep in mind that the story will unravel between different Seasons, each with multiple Episodes. (hence the S1 E3 name)

If you're one of those that enjoyed RTP (dev's previous VN) for its story depth, then you won't be disappointed by AE.
same old story? i did not saw story, i saw another game from my favorite creator...than diference contents (others to fuck) and end game (for me) :)

he can do game like he want....and if he want to do it like this and continue all discusion is pointless :cool:
 
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Well if the pheromones is the case then why
It's not working on others girls???

2 point
Why do people don't understand that we don't need every girl to be virgin but
We also don't want to see them with other man or hear there story with different man

3 point
About voury scene they are just skipable not avoidable
I hope you know the difference between in both of them
Maybe you will be ok to see other lis to with different man because mc is not in relationship with them yet

And here all the best girls are not Li for mc
Maybe mc will fuck them and in the next game they will be Li for the next mc

That's why I say developer is not thinking about his story probably

And he is giving mosty of his time on unwanted things
1.I'm pretty sure the pheromones worked on every single female character that he met so far, the only one not showing it is Summer, but let's be honest Summer is too pissed at the MC right now to even acknowledge it. Francine might be another exception but other than her everyone felt it. There was even that one cheerleeder who looked at the MC with longing eyes, and there was also another random girl lurking around in the scene when Andi comes up to the MC after he gets into a fight with that douche. In this game the pheromones don't seem to be as strong and consistent as they were in Jensen's case and also it seems like they don't work the same way on all the girls. Some of them said they just felt it, others couldn't wait to jump on the MC's dick so there's clearly something more going on, which will obviously be explained later.

2. We don't see any of the two main LI's with any other man though. As for talking about their past relationships, I mean, have you ever been on a date? Past relationships usually come up, maybe not always on the first one, but they do come up eventually. Now in the case of Tania we, as players, know he hooked up with Jensen once, but that was many months before this game takes place and at the end of RTP they clearly went their separate ways so why is it a problem? You can just treat it as another failed relationship attempt from her past.

3. Yes, I am perfectly aware that skippable and avoidable is not the same thing. My point still stands though. Neither Samara nor Anne are in any kind of relationship with the MC so they are not cheating on him at all, they are just doing what they have been doing before the story started. These characters had lives before the story started, so being able to see these scenes just adds more immersion to it imo. If you don't like them just skip them, that's why the option is there. These scenes take nothing away from the story or the characters. Anne already stopped with the escorts, and I'm pretty sure there's going to be a way to break Samara up with her boyfriend and eventually sleep with her.
 

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1.I'm pretty sure the pheromones worked on every single female character that he met so far, the only one not showing it is Summer, but let's be honest Summer is too pissed at the MC right now to even acknowledge it. Francine might be another exception but other than her everyone felt it. There was even that one cheerleeder who looked at the MC with longing eyes, and there was also another random girl lurking around in the scene when Andi comes up to the MC after he gets into a fight with that douche. In this game the pheromones don't seem to be as strong and consistent as they were in Jensen's case and also it seems like they don't work the same way on all the girls. Some of them said they just felt it, others couldn't wait to jump on the MC's dick so there's clearly something more going on, which will obviously be explained later.

2. We don't see any of the two main LI's with any other man though. As for talking about their past relationships, I mean, have you ever been on a date? Past relationships usually come up, maybe not always on the first one, but they do come up eventually. Now in the case of Tania we, as players, know he hooked up with Jensen once, but that was many months before this game takes place and at the end of RTP they clearly went their separate ways so why is it a problem? You can just treat it as another failed relationship attempt from her past.

3. Yes, I am perfectly aware that skippable and avoidable is not the same thing. My point still stands though. Neither Samara nor Anne are in any kind of relationship with the MC so they are not cheating on him at all, they are just doing what they have been doing before the story started. These characters had lives before the story started, so being able to see these scenes just adds more immersion to it imo. If you don't like them just skip them, that's why the option is there. These scenes take nothing away from the story or the characters. Anne already stopped with the escorts, and I'm pretty sure there's going to be a way to break Samara up with her boyfriend and eventually sleep with her.
Well you one of a guy who will we ok to see every girl hooking with other guys
Because they are not in the relationship with mc

And for samara part why did developer made a sex of her with her bf of he want to brake there relationship
If that happened then game will simply get a ntr tag
For sure

But then guys like you will come and cry to remove the tag
As you smell like a cuckold person to me
So you don't want developer to stop it

As for tania i don't understand why developer just want to make her li even knowing that 90% players will not accept her
But the main thing is that she is being forced now it's not like if you didn't went on the date with her then you won't see her again

As for the second Li she told her whole story in the other game maybe your ok with it

But still why not to keep summer and Anne not Li?
Will they be Li for the new game
While mc of this game will already fuck them??

Then again developer dont understand what he is written now

To answer your personal question
No I didn't went on a date
I married to my childhood friend
 

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I see your question and your worries. It will all make sense, but only later on. So if you can just play and let the story and why MC is the way he is and who is Li and who's not unravel. If you can't do that then no worries, thank you for trying it. IF you can then you will be surprised and I hope happier later on you did stick with AE.

Well you one of a guy who will we ok to see every girl hooking with other guys
Because they are not in the relationship with mc

And for samara part why did developer made a sex of her with her bf of he want to brake there relationship
If that happened then game will simply get a ntr tag
For sure

But then guys like you will come and cry to remove the tag
As you smell like a cuckold person to me
So you don't want developer to stop it

As for tania i don't understand why developer just want to make her li even knowing that 90% players will not accept her
But the main thing is that she is being forced now it's not like if you didn't went on the date with her then you won't see her again

As for the second Li she told her whole story in the other game maybe your ok with it

But still why not to keep summer and Anne not Li?
Will they be Li for the new game
While mc of this game will already fuck them??

Then again developer dont understand what he is written now

To answer your personal question
No I didn't went on a date
I married to my childhood friend
 

Cena2001

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I see your question and your worries. It will all make sense, but only later on. So if you can just play and let the story and why MC is the way he is and who is Li and who's not unravel. If you can't do that then no worries, thank you for trying it. IF you can then you will be surprised and I hope happier later on you did stick with AE.
Nha i dont have any problem with the game as I will stop playing the game now

Because I don't want to get surprised by seeing another girl with different man

It was ok in RTP as it was a kinetic novel
But here your doing the same thing forcing players to be with the girl with whom they don't want
 

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I get it, no worries. The cast in RTP was massive and so is with AE. I can't please everyone unfortunately. I felt Andi and Tania didn't get the attention their characters deserved in RTP. Yes Tania had sex once but those days are gone. It's not something that can be altered now as AE's stories written out about 1.5yrs ago and planned. I had Francine as the GF option but opted for Tania as Francine had a past many will not like. I've have pointed out before If i make the game with multiple girl options then I will never be able to continue or finish the story. Choice i had to make and sorry to hear you feel girls are forced onto yourself and other players.

All good if you stop now. If I can say, there will not be any other girl that the MC will or can fuck that will be fucking another guy. Thx for playing so far and all the best.

Nha i dont have any problem with the game as I will stop playing the game now

Because I don't want to get surprised by seeing another girl with different man

It was ok in RTP as it was a kinetic novel
But here your doing the same thing forcing players to be with the girl with whom they don't want
 
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If I can say, there will not be any other girl that the MC will or can fuck that will be fucking another guy.
Really?
I'm the opposite. In your game, I like the idea that the MC has to conquer the sexually active women because he's a better man, instead of just being "the only cock available."

You can't please everyone. ;)

Great game. Just one disturbing thing.
Usually, I am full suspension of disbelief in a porn game. They have their own "porn" logic. I don't care about 100% realism. And I don't mind the "magical" attraction (for information, I didn't play the previous game).

But it's weird that the MC and some women don't realize that something isn't right.
I may be wrong, but to me, at the beginning of the story, the MC seems to have been a loser and unlucky with women. He reacts like a horny teenager with no experience.

Now a bunch of females are throwing themselves into his arms and he just goes with the flow. As if it is the usual.

On the other hand, some girls never ponder the strange attraction from a guy they shouldn't care about that much in normal circumstances. We almost see a cat-fight over the MC.
Honey doesn't count because she is a slut with a strong white cock fetish, so why not?

But Gabriella is the best example.
She presents herself as an assertive single woman, who likes freedom more than anything else. And she would accept to be MC's exclusive sex slave if he's ok with it. Yet, she can't see any contradiction.

I know that there is a reason behind these behaviors. It will be explained later.
IMHO it's closer to mind control than seduction.
I hope that the MC will quickly realize the situation and take control over that "power". Because fucking brainless dolls won't be that exciting after some time.

I'm looking forward the future updates. :)
 

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I feel you dawg...
MC i am sure haven't been told or thought to himself as a looser. Down and out on his luck yes. Maybe he's never mingled with many/dare i say hot women ? Let's see how things play out. As for acting like a teenager, only see a guy expressing what he feels looking at a hot women.

"But it's weird that the MC and some women don't realize that something isn't right.
I may be wrong, but to me, at the beginning of the story, the MC seems to have been a loser and unlucky with women. He reacts like a horny teenager with no experience."
 

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I finally had the time to finish the update.

Things are starting to progress with the story which is nice, we are getting more and more glimpses of the "Powers" of the MC, the context of the mother of the MC makes me think that she had something to do with that.

The scene with Anne gave her a much needed focus, I wasn't fully on board with her, but after that scene and the way she behaves with the MC I'm willing to forgive her and give her the second chance she wants, yeah, it was a questionable thing what she did, but in the context of the situation its at least understandable, its fine Anne we can be friends for now, especially if you use the pool more often.:p

the situation with Summer its starting to get annoying, the key to making an unsympathetic character become relatable or at least likeable its to know when to stop, if you make her too unlikeable then you have to come up with a VERY GOOD reason to like her because by that point no one will care enough for her to want her in any sort of relationship, Especially when her reasons so far seem to be fairly materialistic, someone else entered her kingdom, so that person its and enemy by default.

Andrea its the best waifu, a girl that throws death glares at someone who bothers you and offer to make time to help you train just because she likes you its a keeper, wife material right there, Andrianna and Daniella are also interesting but of the two Daniella its the hottest, gothic girls are rare in VNs.

Tania should have been a model, that body its a marvel, I kind of understand why some people don't fully like her as a LI, her past with Jensen its part of it, but in the game itself her bio reminds you that she still love him, she is not settling for second best but the way this details are presented does lend to the theory that she's using the MC as way to forget Jensen, I don't think this is the case and she does want something with the MC just for who he is, but I do think at some point that past with Jensen should be cleared out so that people stop seeing the situation as her "Settling for second best".

Gabriella its hot as fuck, with her and Honey and now the librarian we have some older ladies to have the fun our boy needs, mature woman are the best.

Now the scene with Charmane did leave me with a sour feeling, even after pounding that glorious ass, I understand where she's coming from but it does maker her seem like another girl that's obsessed with her public image, I don't think it's a deal breaker but I do agree that the MC accepted the situation way too easily.

And finally I read that Francine was considered as one of the LI but Tania was chosen, I understand this decision, her situation in RTP was uncomfortable to see and some people would be against having her as a LI, for all the wrong reasons, but I personally think that its unfair to judge her for something that was out of her control and where she was the victim, I would like to see more of her and perhaps something could happen there, that girl needs some happiness, and lets not pretend that she's not hot.;):p
 

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I'm about to start playing this game for the 1st time as dev's previous game was fantastic.
I just wanna confirm something & hope someone can clarify
As i haven't played previous versions & based on the incest patch: do i need patch from previous releases (incest patch for files "s1e2 & s1e1").
I'm not a programmer so i don't have a lot of knowledge in this field but as current version (S1 Ep3 v1.3.0) only has s1e3 file & not s1e2 & s1e1.
& if previous incest patch is needed can someone please share them.
 

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Latest Patch as I have been told will work with all versions.

I'm about to start playing this game for the 1st time as dev's previous game was fantastic.
I just wanna confirm something & hope someone can clarify
As i haven't played previous versions & based on the incest patch: do i need patch from previous releases (incest patch for files "s1e2 & s1e1").
I'm not a programmer so i don't have a lot of knowledge in this field but as current version (S1 Ep3 v1.3.0) only has s1e3 file & not s1e2 & s1e1.
& if previous incest patch is needed can someone please share them.
 
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When i wrote the story over a year ago she was never anything more than just a friend. Ive said this before. ONLY once i completed Episode 1 did I tell my Proofreader and one Beta tester that I felt I want to make more of her character but later on. Unbeknowns to us many players as you've said started to like her more even if what happened in EP1 to her. I hope this is clear for you guys?

The problem is this, many want Samara to be an LI and that scene never happened. Why waste a character like Samara? IMO.
 
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I'm not saying mc only fucks love interests which is what I think you're interpreting from my sentence. I'm saying you said only love interests fuck mc. Big difference.
In this storys setting there are only 2 LI, which are Tania and Andi. Period. Then there are (possible) harem members and sidefucks. Which Knobb stated more than once.
And here:
https://f95zone.to/threads/alternate-existence-s1-ep-3-v1-3-0-mrknobb.70125/post-5861433
Knobb never said anything about Samara being upgraded to Li but rather thinking about upgrading her from a sideshow/supporting character to more, i.E. sidefuck/ (possible) harem member.

The problem is this, many want Samara to be an LI and that scene never happened. Why waste a character like Samara? IMO.
Samara would be wasted if she stays in her status as sideshow/support character and was initially never planned to be more than some eyecandy. Since it looks like many want more with Samara the Dev is thinking about upgrading her status, but even then she will not be a LI in the sense how they are used in this story. In that regard she will only become a sidefuck or probably a (possible) harem member at best.
And as a little fun-fact, even IF the Dev removed that scene, it would still happen, no changing that. Especially for the people that played the scene already before Dev added the Skip-Button. I agree with Garvelt
Samara is not an LI and whether you kiss her or not is entirely up to you. You guys keep going on about the skippable scenes being a huge problem, but this one is completely avoidable. So if you kiss her that's on you.
If that really is the only/main thing that breaks the game for you people then let it go. Even if Samara gets the upgrade to sidefuck or possible harem member, EP1 will not be changed.
 

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When i wrote the story over a year ago she was never anything more than just a friend. Ive said this before. ONLY once i completed Episode 1 did I tell my Proofreader and one Beta tester that I felt I want to make more of her character but later on. Unbeknowns to us many players as you've said started to like her more even if what happened in EP1 to her. I hope this is clear for you guys?
Will there be a romantic path with her later?
 

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Will there be a romantic path with her later?
IF anyone played the game and still has to ask that, they clearly did not read anything what was written there. Elevating Samara from sideshow/supporting character to sidefuck/harem member it will with a high probability be in a romantic way, as Samara wants something like that and not the shit her current BF is pulling with her. But that is still not getting her on the LI-Stage.
As I see it, it doesnt matter what anyone, even the Dev himself, says as most complainers here measure the entire sidefuck/haremmember/Li shit with how it is used in other games which is just a plain wrong way to view it in regards to this game. As long as people hold onto these concepts as they are used in other games, they will not understand the intentions of the Dev and why he does not see a problem where none is.
 

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IF anyone played the game and still has to ask that, they clearly did not read anything what was written there. Elevating Samara from sideshow/supporting character to sidefuck/harem member it will with a high probability be in a romantic way, as Samara wants something like that and not the shit her current BF is pulling with her. But that is still not getting her on the LI-Stage.
As I see it, it doesnt matter what anyone, even the Dev himself, says as most complainers here measure the entire sidefuck/haremmember/Li shit with how it is used in other games which is just a plain wrong way to view it in regards to this game. As long as people hold onto these concepts as they are used in other games, they will not understand the intentions of the Dev and why he does not see a problem where none is.
I don't quite agree with that. If the terms for LI/harem member/casual partner means something different in this game compared to other games, then perhaps different terms should have been picked in order to avoid people getting confused.

With that said, I am not sure I believe they are so vastly different for this game as elsewhere, but that remains to be seen of course.
Anyway, this thread is kind of stuck in a verbal catch 22 where no concession can be made without everyone else doubling or tripling down.
 
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