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loikl

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I’m not counting on our reputation or past work. What really matters is the result we’ll achieve with the new game. I couldn’t care less about my reputation or what people think — if I make a good game and keep the updates coming, then honestly, what else matters?

I’m not trying to prove anything with words. There’s no point. If the game sucks, people won’t support it. If it’s good, they will.

We made Alvein from scratch, and we never really made any serious money from it. It was always a passion project. Like I’ve said before, my artist earns way more working solo.

The new game is a spiritual successor to Alvein. If you liked Alvein, you’ll probably like what we’re working on now — maybe even more. Alvein had a lot of flaws and things we didn’t do right, and we’re fixing that this time around.

We’re not abandoning Alvein or throwing everything in the trash. It’s more like one project evolving into something else. Same creators, same heart behind it. So don’t worry about someone else’s project, and no need to give us advice. We’ve thought this through for a long time, and it wasn’t an easy decision to start something new. Don’t assume we just gave up and didn’t consider options like switching to SS or whatever.
It's always funny to see people criticize a developer for "taking too long to update" when they don't know how to make a single digital drawing or write a single line of code, even more so when they don't give a single cent and download everything from a free forum.:LOL:

Your game is quite good and entertaining, and whether users like it or not, you're free to take your time making it. I hope it's not abandoned (for real). Good luck.
 

Howdy89(+)

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It's always funny to see people criticize a developer for "taking too long to update" when they don't know how to make a single digital drawing or write a single line of code, even more so when they don't give a single cent and download everything from a free forum.:LOL:

Your game is quite good and entertaining, and whether users like it or not, you're free to take your time making it. I hope it's not abandoned (for real). Good luck.
By that logic no one can criticize anything. Take a film as example,if the movie is bad (by your logic) viewers can't criticize because we don't know how to direct films. No one was aginst him for delaying updates or anything. It was because YNI abandoned Alvein
 

masterwood

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.We know why we got taken down, so it's not like we're hoping it won't happen again. We're pretty much expecting it.
.Because of a few reasons, we can't use SS or similar platforms, so Patreon is the best option for us right now.
.Making the game for free just isn't realistic.
.Support on Patreon or any other platform is completely optional and only if people actually want to help. Our game usually gets leaked to pirate sites on the first day anyway.
.F95 is literally a pirate forum too, and as you can see, nobody really complains.


All our old patrons still have their roles on Discord and can always reach us out. And they’ll get free access to the new game as compensation.


Just being honest. As much as we’d love to keep working on Alvein, it’s just not something we can do right now.
Really wish you guys would just drop patreon. Best of luck to your new game.
 

loikl

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By that logic no one can criticize anything. Take a film as example,if the movie is bad (by your logic) viewers can't criticize because we don't know how to direct films. No one was aginst him for delaying updates or anything. It was because YNI abandoned Alvein
I think you misunderstood me. You can and should criticize a game, whether it's because the plot is bad, because the graphics are low quality, or because the gameplay is bad, but not because it's "slow to update." That's what's stupid.

Now, saying that NO ONE opposed the delay of updates is not true, and many did and do so not only in this game but in others.

Finally, if in this case the game can't continue (because the developer doesn't want to or can't), isn't it better to simply say so instead of continuing silently?

In the end, they'll still attack it, but that's the reality.
 

orcoboia2

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I think you misunderstood me. You can and should criticize a game, whether it's because the plot is bad, because the graphics are low quality, or because the gameplay is bad, but not because it's "slow to update." That's what's stupid.

Now, saying that NO ONE opposed the delay of updates is not true, and many did and do so not only in this game but in others.

Finally, if in this case the game can't continue (because the developer doesn't want to or can't), isn't it better to simply say so instead of continuing silently?

In the end, they'll still attack it, but that's the reality.
I think the main issue almost everyon has is the fact that for ove a yer the dev vent completely silent but still kept donations open and got money (to then reappear and say they were going to abandon the game, with zero explanation or even aknowledgement... no apology either).
 

Howdy89(+)

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I think the main issue almost everyon has is the fact that for ove a yer the dev vent completely silent but still kept donations open and got money (to then reappear and say they were going to abandon the game, with zero explanation or even aknowledgement... no apology either).
Exactly, alvein was a great game and was a piece of art. There is no doubt in that. And those who oppose for slow updates don't know the efforts. But the dev is just avoiding criticism,no apology and zero explanation ( maidenless behaviour):rolleyes: .
 

loikl

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I think the main issue almost everyon has is the fact that for ove a yer the dev vent completely silent but still kept donations open and got money (to then reappear and say they were going to abandon the game, with zero explanation or even aknowledgement... no apology either).
Good point... but I have a question, are Patreons obligated to continue supporting a person or do they have the freedom to stop supporting someone and then, the following month for example, do it again?
 

Sehday

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So what was the reason for canceling Alvein? Shota protag? Based on the new game's protag that's what I'm guessing. Kinda weird not to say the reason
 
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