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Saint_RNG

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Nope that wouldn't be ok because you would still be glorifying incest. even if it's just through dialogue it's still against Patreon's ToS
So no Patreon then. :HideThePain:
So much the better for those who love incest in the end. As it's quite requested, I'll make sure to add a few lesbian and incestuous scenes between the women in the family.
 

DanThaMan

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So no Patreon then. :HideThePain:
So much the better for those who love incest in the end. As it's quite requested, I'll make sure to add a few lesbian and incestuous scenes between the women in the family.
Honestly not being on Patreon is much better for you as a creator. You have full creative freedom to make the game YOU want without having to follow Patreon's strict rules.
 

Mars88

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Nope that wouldn't be ok because you would still be glorifying incest. even if it's just through dialogue it's still against Patreon's ToS
Yeah, I think so too, especially since the rules about incest on Patreon are becoming stricter and stricter
 
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Mars88

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So no Patreon then. :HideThePain:
So much the better for those who love incest in the end. As it's quite requested, I'll make sure to add a few lesbian and incestuous scenes between the women in the family.
Patreon is kinda of crazy nowadays, you never know what they'll ban tomorrow
 
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Filipis

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Honestly not being on Patreon is much better for you as a creator. You have full creative freedom to make the game YOU want without having to follow Patreon's strict rules.
I think the main problem with SubscribeStar is that not all countries have access to it, or it doesn't support classic digital wallets, so a lot of people are reluctant to add their real card information to such services.

To all those people, I say create a Revolut account, it's an actual "bank" but it is digital only, so it can function as both a digital wallet and actual card that sites will accept as genuine (because they are).
 

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The problem with incest is that the more I think about it the more I'm reluctant to put it explicitly in the base game.
Some people have asked me in a private message if I could open a Patreon page (because they can't support me financially through SubscribeStar), so if I want to have a one, the game must not contain incest. :(

I don't want to use a patch or the method where you have to name the relationships between each character at the start of the game.

Do any of you know anything about Patreon rules ? Do they accept a game where incest is just mentioned in the dialogue (as in the scene between Maria and Veronica in the shower) ?

Ideally, I'd like to have a version without incest (where incestuous sex scenes are completely absent from the game but mentioned in the dialogue) for Patreon (and F95zone ?), and a version with all incest content for SubscribeStar. Would that be possible ?

If so, I'd consider putting in more incest (other than Maria and Antonio), but it would only be between women (Veronica/Helena/Maria/Sarah) and nothing too serious, just a bit of ‘fun’ between them.
Everything about this game screams incest to me, and I'd be very dissapointed if there won't be any

That being said, I love the renders and the natural looking boobs, great job on that.
 

Filipis

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Everything about this game screams incest to me, and I'd be very dissapointed if there won't be any

That being said, I love the renders and the natural looking boobs, great job on that.
Really? I didn't get that vibe - other than the obvious incestuous feelings between the younger twins, and from the looks of it, the dev initially planned on just implicitly having incest happen in the game.

But I would be okay either way, I don't really need Veronica to develop an attraction towards either of her sisters or her parents. Maybe the dev is thinking of adding non-romantic incest, whereby on Sarah & Veronica's corrupted path
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I'm good with whatever the dev is comfortable with.
 

Saint_RNG

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But I would be okay either way, I don't really need Veronica to develop an attraction towards either of her sisters or her parents. Maybe the dev is thinking of adding non-romantic incest, whereby on Sarah & Veronica's corrupted path
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Apart from the twins, there will be nothing romantic about the incest content. Like the scene between Veronica and Maria in the shower, they may end up "experimenting" with a few things between them, just to "test things out", but nothing really serious.

As for Veronica and Sarah, they'll have scenes with each other, but it'll just be for ‘professional’ purposes, if you know what I mean. :sneaky:
 

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Incest is only taboo in certain over religious backward countries. It's even legal in France within certain parameters.
Perhaps because I live in one of the countries where it's green (see map below), so my view of the matter is simpler.
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Too lazy to check shit now so just sleep chatting here.. I thought barring incest between siblings and parents with children is a universal step in anthropological evolution, meaning virtually instinctive. before the condescending why's come, the reasons proposed by anthropologists i forget, but i'm fairly certain it was something materialistic. "legality" in the modern sense doesn't necessarily reflect its societal permissibility. and I'm guessing in some of the places from green to yellow its (partial or full) legality is more a loophole rather than actual acceptance, which would actually mean it was so granted that incest was undesirable it wasnt seen as requiring codified tabooization...
 
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Apart from the twins, there will be nothing romantic about the incest content. Like the scene between Veronica and Maria in the shower, they may end up "experimenting" with a few things between them, just to "test things out", but nothing really serious.

As for Veronica and Sarah, they'll have scenes with each other, but it'll just be for ‘professional’ purposes, if you know what I mean. :sneaky:
I'm fine with that
 

Filipis

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Apart from the twins, there will be nothing romantic about the incest content. Like the scene between Veronica and Maria in the shower, they may end up "experimenting" with a few things between them, just to "test things out", but nothing really serious.

As for Veronica and Sarah, they'll have scenes with each other, but it'll just be for ‘professional’ purposes, if you know what I mean. :sneaky:
So, have you decided whether the Maria & Antonio scenes are going to be explicit (Veronica peeps on them?) or implicit? Since you've eliminated Patreon as a platform for gathering followers, SS doesn't impose the same restrictions on fair content, you could go for it...
 

Saint_RNG

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So, have you decided whether the Maria & Antonio scenes are going to be explicit (Veronica peeps on them?) or implicit? Since you've eliminated Patreon as a platform for gathering followers, SS doesn't impose the same restrictions on fair content, you could go for it...
Everything will be explicit, but Veronica won't have a direct view of what's going on, it'll be more like an elipse where we see Maria's point of view (coming in v0.3), and later she'll tell Veronica about it in more detail.
 

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Everything will be explicit, but Veronica won't have a direct view of what's going on, it'll be more like an elipse where we see Maria's point of view (coming in v0.3), and later she'll tell Veronica about it in more detail.
I don’t think I’ve asked this - and you are free to not answer - but what is the desired update development time you’ve set for yourself?
 
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Saint_RNG

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I don’t think I’ve asked this - and you are free to not answer - but what is the desired update development time you’ve set for yourself?
1 to 2 months between each release. Ideally, I'm aiming for around 200 images for around 2,000 lines of code per release. But as with v0.2, it could be a bit more.

For v0.3 (for which I started development yesterday), I might split this version into two releases (v0.3 and v0.3.5) as there are a lot of scenes planned (13).
 

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Loving the story, I still think it would be super cool if your choices did effect the Angel and Demon,ever so subtle. If you decide to side with the Demon more, the Angel's Halo gets dim,if she keeps siding With the Demon her Wings just change just a bit. Less White even turn black if changing colors is not a major coding issue,maybe eventually have the Angel take on the MC's characteristics personality wise. Goes for the same with the Demon,any change can be very subtle and slow,but do have your choices effect both of them. As for the MC, I would love to see her as a Demon myself,but to also see a corrupted Angel,even if it is just hair color,halo and wing color or her personality becoming more....Demon like would be awesome.
 
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Loving the story, I still think it would be super cool if your choices did effect the Angel and Demon,ever so subtle. If you decide to side with the Demon more, the Angel's Halo gets dim,if she keeps siding With the Demon her Wings just change just a bit. Less White even turn black if changing colors is not a major coding issue,maybe eventually have the Angel take on the MC's characteristics personality wise. Goes for the same with the Demon,any change can be very subtle and slow,but do have your choices effect both of them. As for the MC, I would love to see her as a Demon myself,but to also see a corrupted Angel,even if it is just hair color,halo and wing color or her personality becoming more....Demon like would be awesome.
That... makes no sense. They are called Angel and Demon because they already represent the two aspects of morality (Good vs Evil), changing the appearance of either to indicate a change in morality would go against the point of having those two characters in the first place.
 
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1 to 2 months between each release. Ideally, I'm aiming for around 200 images for around 2,000 lines of code per release. But as with v0.2, it could be a bit more.

For v0.3 (for which I started development yesterday), I might split this version into two releases (v0.3 and v0.3.5) as there are a lot of scenes planned (13).
Alright, nice, I always did prefer shorter releases more often, as opposed to waiting half a year for an update. People easily move on, and keeping your game fresh in the spotlight as long as you can is more rewarding in the long term I'd say.

That said, judging from your intent to "split" the 0.3 content update into two updates means you already have the plot roughly outlined? Why not just split the 'original' 0.3 content into 0.3 (0.3a) and 0.4 (0.3b) respectively?
 

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Alright, nice, I always did prefer shorter releases more often, as opposed to waiting half a year for an update. People easily move on, and keeping your game fresh in the spotlight as long as you can is more rewarding in the long term I'd say.

That said, judging from your intent to "split" the 0.3 content update into two updates means you already have the plot roughly outlined? Why not just split the 'original' 0.3 content into 0.3 (0.3a) and 0.4 (0.3b) respectively?
Almost, I've already got most of the possible endings in mind. What happens between that and the actual content, well, that depends on the characters and the routes. For some I've already got almost all the content I want to do for them in my head, while for others it'll come as I go along.

As for v0.3, I know exactly what's going to happen in outline (there may be some minor changes during development). As for dialogue and images, I'm working on them on the fly.

v0.3.5 could just as easily be v0.4, it's just that I'd like the period between v0.x and v0.x+1 to correspond to a full day in game (as I did for the intro and v0.2). So v0.3 would cover the first half of the day, while v0.3.5 would cover the second one.
 
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