VN Ren'Py Angel in L.A. Vol. 1 [v0.6.4 Rework] [DigiurgeCreations]

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Vrijgeest

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No one swears more in slang conversations that British and Australian folk. American's are just learning to swear lots more, so we can let them catch up to us.
It is other way round. I was brought up in the UK. Swearing was not done. It is an Americanism that came with their films and television series.
 

AnyName'llDo

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Enjoying this one much more than I thought I would. It's great to see that Digiurge is updating the graphics. The choices feel like they matter. I'm a fan, and I'm going to start supporting it. Thanks.
 
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Ordinal Chaos

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I'd also recommend sticking with Angel's POV. The scene where the vice-principal meets with the math teacher breaks the fourth wall - Angel couldn't know about it. Have the story SHOW that the meeting happened via its consequences, rather than just cutting to a scene where we see stuff Angel doesn't. Stories need to have characters we can identify with and cutting between POVs undercuts this.
A change of POV is not a fourth wall break. A fourth wall break is when a character directly adresses the viewer, or otherwise acknowledges that they are in a piece of media.

Plenty of great works of literature utilize a change in point of view, this seems more like a personal preference of yours (which is totally fine).

The rest of your points I agree with to some degree, although I don't feel like it takes away from the experience, I mean my favorite route is the naive route and if the characters acted too realistically it would be very short lived as angel would certainly realize what was happening to her no matter how naive she was. So some of these unnatural and unrealistic character action are necessary to enable the fantasy. That said, some of them also seem to be the result of a writer who is a little inexperienced with writing dialog (at the very least for certain types of characters). That said I've only played to about halfway through day 2 so I can't speak for any improvements or changes beyond that.
 
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DigiurgeCreations

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If the author(s) want to be ambitious (and improve the storytelling), consider not starting the story at the beginning. The beginning is weak, because we don't know anything about the situation and the main character, so can't identify with the action. Consider starting with her arriving at the school for her first day, and remembering things in flashback as she progresses through the first day. Have her be embarrassed to see that everyone is in longer skirts and then have a flashback to explain why she is in a short one. Have her get hit on and remember the bus stop incident. Have her new girl friend ask about family and have Angel remember the awkward introductions. Etc. Start strong.
A lot was going on so I forgot to respond to this part of your post, but thanks to a recent post I recalled this part, because this was the part I actually agreed with you 100%. You obviously have experience in story telling, or at least read a lot of good stories and it shows in your suggestion here. Thank you for the advice, because next time I begin a game/story, I can incorporate this type of flashback style and start strong, because it does sound cool and a better way to tell a story.

I'm a linear minded thinker, so I began at point 1. A reboot of this game might be a good idea since I was brand spankin' new at everything starting out, and it showed. Now that I have some experience, it might not be a bad idea. I'd have to see what my Patron's think. Either way, I'm moving on with the development of 0.5.

Thank you for your insight and taking the time to post Joe Steel.
 

AnyName'llDo

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Starting with her first day moving there is a better way to pull in the reader. Flashbacks should be used minimally, if at all. They are useful for explaining things that couldn't happen sequentially. Explaining the skirt length doesn't require a flashback. If you want to experiment with your storytelling, feel free, but rewriting to begin later in the story is a worse way for a game about incremental progression to start, IMO.
 

Mormont

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This game has gotten better with each update very good so far and I like the number of options we have when it comes to making choices I often wish other games would give us different options. But it looks like there is going to be a few jealous girls around our MC those are the ones that will probably cause the most trouble for Angela. Great job so far.
 

BadmanBaxter

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I just wondered if you could add a button to see stats? I tend to follow one path but in terms of relationships with people i wanna know hoe contempt or affectionate they are toward me. if there is a way to do this can someone let me know?
 

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I just wondered if you could add a button to see stats? I tend to follow one path but in terms of relationships with people i wanna know hoe contempt or affectionate they are toward me. if there is a way to do this can someone let me know?
The affection/contempt system is straight to the point. The choices will be obvious (positive reaction/negative reaction), so all you have to do is be positive towards those characters you want affection from, and negative towards those you want contempt from.

There are also characters that you have no choice whether they have affection or contempt towards you (i.e. Tiffany has contempt already for MC and Dad has affection for MC already). Although, you are able to change the affection score with the Dad, characters such as Tiffany will remain the MC's enemy as she is one of the antagonist in the story.

I wanted this game to be simple while still having a foundation of choice and consequence. There will be more choices and consequences as the game progresses.
 

omega512

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Is the update out for Mac by chance? Tried to do the whole thing with downloading PC and carrying over the game folder but it didn't work for this game
 

DigiurgeCreations

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Is the update out for Mac by chance? Tried to do the whole thing with downloading PC and carrying over the game folder but it didn't work for this game
The current public version of the game IS 0.2. The Windows version of 0.4.1 was leaked, but not the Mac version. I guess only Windows versions get leaked.
 
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nobody_666

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TBH, I'm a sucker for naive girls. Just love them! That is my favorite path :geek:
tbh, I feel it same but I would be carefull because there are several games at f95zone (with naive female MC) which after time started to get low rating. People are saying MC is too dumb, her behaviour is unreal etc. From my point of view they are haters. I accept that some games deserves low rating but not because u dont like that type of genre. If I dont like for example NTR or Bimbo (really not big fan of deformed faces) than I dont play such type of games and I dont write review to them. I think we really miss NAIVE tag here so all those haters can see it from the beginning and hopefully avoid such type of game and they won't have the urge to write a review.
 
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slimjim101

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Wow, the latest update really show's the Devs' commitment to game improvements from player recommendations. I would like to also note that I find having multiple perspectives (not just 1st person) creates a more in-depth player experience. Many, if not most, utilize this style of writing. Love MC's slim body and innocent/naive persona. I have to admit I was hoping for a scene with MC watching a little internet porn (her choice), maybe in the future and would love to see her without shoes in the knee-high socks. Keep up the awesome work. I will be becoming a Patreon supporter soon.
 

cager

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One look at the exaggerated boobs and I cannot play this game. Why such poor pandering to one small group of boob lovers? A range of sizes is better
 

Mormont

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One look at the exaggerated boobs and I cannot play this game. Why such poor pandering to one small group of boob lovers? A range of sizes is better
Her boob size does play into the story yeah she could have had normal-sized boobs but it probably wouldn't work out as well if you played the game you would realize how much her big boobs come into play with certain situations with both men and women.
 

DigiurgeCreations

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...saying MC is too dumb, her behaviour is unreal etc.
While she does carry the innocent naive persona to an extent, the Pure route offers a much more smarter more aware MC that fits most players desire for a strong/independent type of MC. To an extent, the Experimental path also offers that in an opposite kind of way, where the MC knows the situations she's getting into.

The three different routes will give the player an almost entirely different MC to play with. So in this way, I am catering to each players desire to have a strong/independent/smart MC, a naive/stupid/trusting MC, or an aware/adventurous MC.

I have to admit I was hoping for a scene with MC watching a little internet porn (her choice), maybe in the future and would love to see her without shoes in the knee-high socks.
That is doable. I always ask my Patron's for suggestions and implement what I can if I feel like it can fit into the story. So far, all of my Patron's suggestions (while there have been few so far) have been implemented to a certain extent in the game. For example, the scene where Tiffany requires Angel to jump up and down to test and see if her breasts pop out of her top is 100% a Patron's suggestion.

One look at the exaggerated boobs and I cannot play this game. Why such poor pandering to one small group of boob lovers? A range of sizes is better
I suspect that you may be looking at the old figure of Angel. She has since been changed and I plan on re-working old versions to make the new figure match with the old.

If you are referring to the current figure's breast size, then take a look at the other females in the game. I have a wide range of breast sizes for all the girls, so I'm not really "pandering" to just one size in particular.

Take a look at my avatar, tell me her breasts are too large after you see that pic and I'll say to that, to each their own.

Her boob size does play into the story
Exactly! :geek:
 
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BadmanBaxter

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I don't know what route this would fit in to. I like the idea of the model girl I think her name was Emily agreeing to back off Henley if Angel became her slave for a while. She could humiliate her or make her do sexual things with her or someone else. This would be avoidable and in the end could succeed or fail up to dev. Hey Digi what do you think?
 
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