Collection Video Animo Pron Collection [2023-10-13] [AnimoPron]

[Yustu]

To add upon above two posts.

I think that people misunderstand and hope that those artists will drop everything and do 100% 3D work. IIRC in case of Animo and Miro (from Affect3D) they do have actual work and this thing is a side gig. Keep in mind that all those artists do this in hopes to monetize their product. To put it simply they want to spend those moneys for their own benefit and not to build studio that will do 3D pr0n (well maybe with Wildere exception - but it's yet to be seen what comes out of it).

IMO any kind of support is support for the artist not the product - If You want support product than hire a 3D artist directly and do i.e. kickstarter etc to create specific product.

Another angle to look at this is artist career - when You do switch job | or apply to new | they do ask for CV and look what You did in the past. If You have like 3 years gap in Your professional CV then this doesn't look good to feature employer and it's not like You can tell "I did animation where horse penetrated woman for like past three years, here is the link take a look" right ...

As for the lipsync there are already solutions for that but the problem here would be that You will need to have first audio to sync to and in case of animo he does it lastly.

 

[Diana of Themyscira]

To add upon above two posts.

I think that people misunderstand and hope that those artists will drop everything and do 100% 3D work. IIRC in case of Animo and Miro (from Affect3D) they do have actual work and this thing is a side gig. Keep in mind that all those artists do this in hopes to monetize their product. To put it simply they want to spend those moneys for their own benefit and not to build studio that will do 3D pr0n (well maybe with Wildere exception - but it's yet to be seen what comes out of it).

IMO any kind of support is support for the artist not the product - If You want support product than hire a 3D artist directly and do i.e. kickstarter etc to create specific product.

Another angle to look at this is artist career - when You do switch job | or apply to new | they do ask for CV and look what You did in the past. If You have like 3 years gap in Your professional CV then this doesn't look good to feature employer and it's not like You can tell "I did animation where horse penetrated woman for like past three years, here is the link take a look" right ...

As for the lipsync there are already solutions for that but the problem here would be that You will need to have first audio to sync to and in case of animo he does it lastly.

You sure about Animopron doing this as a side thing? I don't recall him mentioning that this is a side thing. Just from subscribestar he makes over 20k a month, isn't that way more than even a high paying job in the US? Big props if he does this as a side hustle tho, as the quality is insane.

 

[Yustu]

WonderWomanHerself

Animopron - no, I'm no 100% sure, I do recall that someone, long time ago (2017-2019), mentioned it in regards to why BTQ 2 | 3 was taking so long. But I could be mistaken to be honest. Also situation currently could change right, as he earns decent money nowadays.

Salary - this depends. I was doing a gig in EU company few years back and they wanted 3d artist, quote they got was 10k EURO / month, in the end they settled with graduate that didn't done properly topology. It's hard to say if that's high or not due to "average" that usually is shown in online tools. There is large disproportion between entry level and senior salary, at least when it comes to programming. For example senior developer @ CDRed (The Witcher) earns 13k / month - and funny thing is that this is Polish company and people from Poland earn in PLN and people from outside earn in their own currency - on same position. Although that info is now outdated, as It was researched when `The Witcher 3` was developed. Bottom line I personally don't think that this is highest salary (take for example WetaDigitals) but IIRC Animpron is from RU so probably more then decent taking into consideration currency exchange rate.

 

[cuzero123]

Rant warning:

I started watching animopron's stuff when I first laid eyes upon the masterpiece 'Lara with horse. After that, I searched for the artist and found out the first part of BTW was out and watched it. While it wasn't nearly as good as lara with horse, I believed it still set the premise for coming parts which I expected to be better. After waiting and waiting for years for the completion of BTQ, I have now realize that this has been such a disappointment. Animo has really lost the chutzpah. When I was watching LwH, there were unexpected things happening all the time. It was hot as a concept, not just the animation. Now, I feel he has improved the quality of his animation, yet lost the grasp on what makes a particular porn erotic. Nobody wants to wait a year to the see the same scene for 10-15 minutes from 2-3 angles.
He has also really started milking his patreons. Let me explain to you why I believe so. What goes into making an animated short? First, there is an idea of a story, followed by draft of a script and then comes character modelling/creating an environment. After all that's done, you start animating and put in the audio followed by post production. Considering that more than half of the production work was done before part 1 was released, why does it take him a year to release a part with repetitive animations. All the character modelling/physics/scene setting have already been done when part 1 was created. What he has done since then, is animate those characters and add in the audio effects. While animating is as tedious a job as any, it should not nearly take as much time as animo takes to release a part(even after including the rendering time).
Have you ever wondered why does he not show the interrogator's face if has already put in the effert to create/model it? He has not done so because the interrogator is the only one that has dialogues. If he shows her face, he will have to lipsync her dialogues which is a task unto itself.
For a man earning thousands of dollars a month for his art, he seems to slack off too much.

to add more to what you've said, a 2D animator, very famous that i'm not saying the name here, did a 30 min or so, video, 2D fully animated voiced with lip sync, less than a year. note all 2D, you have to sketch every frame, them linework them shad it, is WAAAYYY harder than 3D, and lets be honest here, animo stuff don't have all that quality like other 3d animators out there, he is not supposed to be taking a year to like you said, create 3 looping scenes and changing the angles just to increase the video lenght.
also, he does work full time on porn, when he changed patreon to subscribestar, he was earning 15k more there, now on subscribestar he is earning 30k or more. and, to people that think he work on a side job, dude, just think a bit, why would you stress yourself out hearing from you boss and other shits, instead of siting your ass on your house earning a ton of money? lol, if someone earning that ammount of money, say he is working on a side job, is a lie to be lazy with his stuff, and thats ultra commom for people that earn a ton, just post some progress here and there that he did in a couple of hours, and them vanish for a month and come back with more shit progress done in the last night LMAO.

 

[WICKEDp4th]

There is so much salt here now.

 

[156_163_146_167]

very famous that i'm not saying the name here

Why would you not say the name because they're famous?

why would you stress yourself out hearing from you boss and other shits, instead of siting your ass on your house earning a ton of money?

Because of the reasons already mentioned earlier. But also, some people want to have something to do during their day and like having work to do. If your side job is bringing in that much money, you don't have to stress as much about your main job.
But then again, I really don't know whether this is his full time job or not. Either way, I don't think he's putting full-time hours into it, that's for sure.

 

[cuzero123]

Why would you not say the name because they're famous?

i don't like using other people names, but if you want to know, it's derpixon.

There is so much salt here now.

not salt, just people tired of lazy ass devs and their excuses for not working. and people blind like you, still supporting them and defending them LMAO

But then again, I really don't know whether this is his full time job or not. Either way, I don't think he's putting full-time hours into it, that's for sure.

of course he is not working full time, he is a lazy guy, that pass the whole day playing or getting high like all other devs. you need to open your eyes buddy, and stop treating those lazy ass devs like gods, just because they draw porn, they are no better than anyone, anyone can be good at drawing animating, all you have to do is sit and train/work hard on learning how to draw/animate.
and if you get support from people, and paywall your shit is your duty to bring them content and stop giving excuses about, everyone has problem's, but i doubt if you're sick or something, you skip a week of work giving your boss a lazy ass excuse LOL

and here something fresh that proves what i say >

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[156_163_146_167]

you need to open your eyes buddy, and stop treating those lazy ass devs like gods, just because they draw porn

That's not what I'm doing, though. I don't get how that's your takeaway. It's just that I genuinely don't know. People here like to give game devs shit for not delivering products sooner or more frequently, but programming is not easy. And I can say that because I've done it myself. Animation I have not done, so I really can't tell what all goes into making these animations. If it really were that easy, we would've seen many more animations on this level or above instead of the seas of mediocrity you'll find.

if you get support from people, and paywall your shit is your duty to bring them content

People always make this assumption. Because you're getting paid you need to deliver something. But that's unfortunately not the way subscription services such as Patreon are set up, and the people throwing their money at it should know that. You're supporting the artist, not buying a product. If you somehow have the idea that you're guaranteed to get something you want just because you pay a certain amount of money to the artist, then I have news for you. That's not how it works. If that's what you want, hire an animator yourself.

And no, that one Twitter post does not prove it. That's one accusation that one artist is making about another one. That's an extremely low sample size without any evidence to back it up. Not saying it's not true or that it isn't a more widespread issue among artists, just that we don't have the information.

 

[WICKEDp4th]

i don't like using other people names, but if you want to know, it's derpixon.




not salt, just people tired of lazy ass devs and their excuses for not working. and people blind like you, still supporting them and defending them LMAO



of course he is not working full time, he is a lazy guy, that pass the whole day playing or getting high like all other devs. you need to open your eyes buddy, and stop treating those lazy ass devs like gods, just because they draw porn, they are no better than anyone, anyone can be good at drawing animating, all you have to do is sit and train/work hard on learning how to draw/animate.
and if you get support from people, and paywall your shit is your duty to bring them content and stop giving excuses about, everyone has problem's, but i doubt if you're sick or something, you skip a week of work giving your boss a lazy ass excuse LOL

and here something fresh that proves what i say >

You must be registered to see the links

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I'm sooo tired of people who call others lazy because they making a shitload of money monthly. You are just envy about his income.
I do not support Animopron. But i appreciate the work he is doing. Nobody was/is forced to pay him, but people do so because they think he deserve that.

Who cares. Ah yes i forgot, obviously you care.

There is your salt, mate.

 

[cuzero123]

That's not what I'm doing, though. I don't get how that's your takeaway. It's just that I genuinely don't know. People here like to give game devs shit for not delivering products sooner or more frequently, but programming is not easy. And I can say that because I've done it myself. Animation I have not done, so I really can't tell what all goes into making these animations. If it really were that easy, we would've seen many more animations on this level or above instead of the seas of mediocrity you'll find.

People always make this assumption. Because you're getting paid you need to deliver something. But that's unfortunately not the way subscription services such as Patreon are set up, and the people throwing their money at it should know that. You're supporting the artist, not buying a product. If you somehow have the idea that you're guaranteed to get something you want just because you pay a certain amount of money to the artist, then I have news for you. That's not how it works. If that's what you want, hire an animator yourself.

And no, that one Twitter post does not prove it. That's one accusation that one artist is making about another one. That's an extremely low sample size without any evidence to back it up. Not saying it's not true or that it isn't a more widespread issue among artists, just that we don't have the information.

i'm a 2D animator, i can make a high quality looping animation in 3 days flat colored and shaded, a lot of other does too, you can see it by nyl2 with the challenge he did, he did an animation per day for 5 days.
and i really don't have anything else to say to you bud, if you like to blindly defend the devs that suck money from people and always give excuses it's fine, but just ask you to look around the forum and notice the updates, 2~3 months just for a couple of pictures, just a couple of lines, 1 year for a 20 min video, with only 3 scenes that change the angle LOL.

 

[156_163_146_167]

if you like to blindly defend the devs that suck money from people and always give excuses it's fine

It's more that you're blindly attacking. Again, I'm just stating what I know and that we don't know certain things.

But hey, since you're the animator here, why don't you make some animations instead? Seems like you're missing out on all that money for doing nothing.

 

[cuzero123]

I'm sooo tired of people who call others lazy because they making a shitload of money monthly. You are just envy about his income.
I do not support Animopron. But i appreciate the work he is doing. Nobody was/is forced to pay him, but people do so because they think he deserve that.

Who cares. Ah yes i forgot, obviously you care.

There is your salt, mate.

sorry mate, not envy, i did support a lot of devs, all they do monthly is give excuses of being sick or something like "oh no my dog is on fire, sorry guys" huur durr.
just stop being a bitch and open your eyes, while we are supporting, they are laughting and getting high LMAO

 

[cuzero123]

It's more that you're blindly attacking. Again, I'm just stating what I know and that we don't know certain things.

But hey, since you're the animator here, why don't you make some animations instead? Seems like you're missing out on all that money for doing nothing.

why i would be animating ? lmao, i'm doing like everyone else, i'm sitting my ass all day playing games and getting high lol

 

[agentredgirl]

I don't know exactly what other content creators do but I can tell you this:

1) I work 6-7 days a week (Happily)
2) I love what I do. I love animating, I love creating stories, and I love making my cartoons.
3) I DO feel like I owe my supporters content. Why?
4) I am INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL that I am able to do this for a living. YES, IT IS HARD. But is MINE. I will do everything in my power to improve and produce content so that I dont let down the people that support me.
5) I have spent $30,000+ on additional rendering PC's and a fluid simulation PC
6) I pay to hire voice actors, actresses
7) I have had to pay to use a render farm just to correct rendering mistakes
8) I pay people to compose music, sing lyrics
9) I pay people to rig my models
10) I pay a second animator to help speed up my animation releases
11) My work is on my mind virtually 24/7. I live, breath, sleep, and eat thinking about my work.
12) I took a big risk and quit a steady "safe" job that provided a decent income and health insurance for my mom and I.
13) I spend and I have spent hundreds of hours learning, watching tutorials, and trying new things to improve my work.

The bottom line is, this is NOT easy or SAFE by any means. Animation is HARD + time consuming. Rendering can be HARD + time consuming. Fluid simulations are HARD + time consuming. The worst part is, if you mess up any one of these, the other 2 are somehow affected. Also, you have to assume he makes mistakes along the way and has to go back and correct them. Oh yeah and we are at the mercy of the Platforms we are on. At any second they could say BYE! GTFO Patreon!

Based on the quality of his content, reading his posts as a supporter, and some conversations I have had with him, I do feel that Animo has a very strong work ethic. I can tell you that a lot of the stuff he does takes a lot of time, patience, attention to detail, and artistic skills. OH YEAH and he is ALSO making a video game. THIS MAN IS WORKING!

I am not saying every content creator, or even Animo, is a work a-holic, but I can say there is a reason he is so well supported. It is because he truly does create really interesting, sexy, lengthy, well animated scenes that virtually no one else in the WORLD does.

Think about that. There are what, 7 BILLION people on Earth? And he is the ONE PERSON making porn at a truly high level, over an extended period of time, in his genre.

I personally feel he has far and away earned his support.

 

[neo94700]

Can we consider the point closed and talk about something else?
You guys are spamming my notifications that usually is only hardcore horse porn

 

[Blackknight]

I don't know exactly what other content creators do but I can tell you this:

1) I work 6-7 days a week (Happily)
2) I love what I do. I love animating, I love creating stories, and I love making my cartoons.
3) I DO feel like I owe my supporters content. Why?
4) I am INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL that I am able to do this for a living. YES, IT IS HARD. But is MINE. I will do everything in my power to improve and produce content so that I dont let down the people that support me.
5) I have spent $30,000+ on additional rendering PC's and a fluid simulation PC
6) I pay to hire voice actors, actresses
7) I have had to pay to use a render farm just to correct rendering mistakes
8) I pay people to compose music, sing lyrics
9) I pay people to rig my models
10) I pay a second animator to help speed up my animation releases
11) My work is on my mind virtually 24/7. I live, breath, sleep, and eat thinking about my work.
12) I took a big risk and quit a steady "safe" job that provided a decent income and health insurance for my mom and I.
13) I spend and I have spent hundreds of hours learning, watching tutorials, and trying new things to improve my work.

The bottom line is, this is NOT easy or SAFE by any means. Animation is HARD + time consuming. Rendering can be HARD + time consuming. Fluid simulations are HARD + time consuming. The worst part is, if you mess up any one of these, the other 2 are somehow affected. Also, you have to assume he makes mistakes along the way and has to go back and correct them. Oh yeah and we are at the mercy of the Platforms we are on. At any second they could say BYE! GTFO Patreon!

Based on the quality of his content, reading his posts as a supporter, and some conversations I have had with him, I do feel that Animo has a very strong work ethic. I can tell you that a lot of the stuff he does takes a lot of time, patience, attention to detail, and artistic skills. OH YEAH and he is ALSO making a video game. THIS MAN IS WORKING!

I am not saying every content creator, or even Animo, is a work a-holic, but I can say there is a reason he is so well supported. It is because he truly does create really interesting, sexy, lengthy, well animated scenes that virtually no one else in the WORLD does.

Think about that. There are what, 7 BILLION people on Earth? And he is the ONE PERSON making porn at a truly high level, over an extended period of time, in his genre.

I personally feel he has far and away earned his support.

subscribestar ? patreon is shitty with content like yours

 

[Blackknight]

clearly you dont understand. so I shall explain what I said for you. I said patreon is shitty for content like his/hers which refers to patreon not be a safe place for artists to create their work as they get sudden bans or restrictions.

in no way did I say agentredgirls work is shit

patreon bans alot of animated/comic porn makers.

 

[SgtUnderground]

Can we consider the point closed and talk about something else?
You guys are spamming my notifications that usually is only hardcore horse porn

Guys? Please?
We all want the same. Horses fucking woman. No need to fight. Let's work together for the fapping content.

 

[Xanathar77]

5) I have spent $30,000+ on additional rendering PC's and a fluid simulation PC

AgentRedGirl: I'm just curious - what kind of hardware do you use for editing and final renders? High core-count Threadripper machines?

 

[biały wilk]

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Very good approach to creative work. If all the creators did half of points like you did, the whole animation would look much better.
Keep it up and good luck.