Thickgravy49

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Just telling the truth. I have several games in my library, compressed by a couple of people. SOL is right. By not doing compressions, it punishes those of us who are trying to build a library of games, just to stop a few asshats. Who, btw, could care less about how their actions affect others. They'd just move on to other games and fuck those up too.
What asshats? Who are you talking about? The people doing the compressing?
 

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No, the people who post the bug ridden versions of games early, which is what the original topic was, if I'm not mistaken.
Okay, so if I'm understanding you correctly, you think that the people who would like to play it right now, shouldn't get the chance to do that, because you object?
Bit selfish, don't you think?

First time I've ever seen someone being generous enough to share labelled an asshat.
I'm hardly surprised the higher-tier patrons don't bother sharing with attitudes like yours.

And btw, I've played the 'Bug-ridden' update all the way through and guess what?
I didn't get any bugs at all.
Maybe you're the asshat?
 

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Okay, so if I'm understanding you correctly, you think that the people who would like to play it right now, shouldn't get the chance to do that, because you object?
Bit selfish, don't you think?

First time I've ever seen someone being generous enough to share labelled an asshat.
I'm hardly surprised the higher-tier patrons don't bother sharing with attitudes like yours.

And btw, I've played the 'Bug-ridden' update all the way through and guess what?
I didn't get any bugs at all.
Maybe you're the asshat?
APPARENTLY, you haven't read all of the gripes for the previous update AND I Never mentioned Anything about the beta version being buggy. I was Referring to those who downloaded the alpha version, which they did last time, that hadn't been tested for bugs. Even the dev warned the thread before they released it to the subscribers.
I have NO problems with people playing a game early if they want. Never mentioned that Either. Furthemore, it was You who suggested to SOL to stop compressing the game to solve the problem. I know that I certainly didn't type it. Even in jest, that's not a very funny thing to tell someone who takes their personal time to do something for the sake of the masses. My problem is that you have a few out there who don't care if the alpha version is buggy or not yet still download it to the thread. I'm sure that they know some of these people out there are impulsive and try to play it anyway. All I'm saying is that when they do that, it creates more confusion on the thread. The dev and modders have to go out of their way to explain, needlessly, that the alpha version is just that. The confusion creates even more anxiety among those waiting patiently as they try to figure out what's what.
I got NO problems with folks wanting to share the game early but, for respect to the devs, modders and the players, share the one that's been fairly well tested and not any old thing just because they Can. Seems simple enough to me.
 
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Okay, so if I'm understanding you correctly, you think that the people who would like to play it right now, shouldn't get the chance to do that, because you object?
Bit selfish, don't you think?

First time I've ever seen someone being generous enough to share labelled an asshat.
I'm hardly surprised the higher-tier patrons don't bother sharing with attitudes like yours.

And btw, I've played the 'Bug-ridden' update all the way through and guess what?
I didn't get any bugs at all.
Maybe you're the asshat?
Often the very people who are the most impatient to play, are the ones who make the most noise if there are bugs which then prevent you from playing. So it's much better, to wait a few days, when most of the bugs are fixed. That's not being selfish, that's just being sensible.

Just because you don't get bugs, doesn't mean that many other people won't. It often depends on what choices you made through the game, the version of the operating system you're using and occasionally just random bad luck. If you wait for the beta version, when most bugs have been fixed, the chance of these things happening, is massively reduced.
 
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Why do you always assume the beta version is buggy?
I play the beta as soon as it comes out every time and I've not once had any bugs.

Personally, I think it has more to do with the fact that people try to use old saves and/or play the quests out of sequence.
Obviously, if you use the saves provided, than you have much less chance of issues, than if you don't. You are supposed to be able to use old saves in this game, it's just that the phone function often prevents it, in the sandbox version. This is because it was initially poorly implemented, which the Devs have openly admitted, and so far they haven't found a workable solution for it. Unfortunately, the saves provided by the Devs with each update, don't cover all of the possibilities in the game. They just allow you to access all the new content. But that means you can't customise your playthrough, which is an important aspect of the game, for a lot of people.

At the moment, the only way around this, is the VN version. Because this doesn't have the phone function, and therefore old saves usually work.
 

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I always wait for the VN that is bug free and all old saves works like a champ
that's why really hope the HERO will share the VN here...
 
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APPARENTLY, you haven't read all of the gripes for the previous update AND I Never mentioned Anything about the beta version being buggy. I was Referring to those who downloaded the alpha version, which they did last time, that hadn't been tested for bugs. Even the dev warned the thread before they released it to the subscribers.
I have NO problems with people playing a game early if they want. Never mentioned that Either. Furthemore, it was You who suggested to SOL to stop compressing the game to solve the problem. I know that I certainly didn't type it. Even in jest, that's not a very funny thing to tell someone who takes their personal time to do something for the sake of the masses. My problem is that you have a few out there who don't care if the alpha version is buggy or not yet still download it to the thread. I'm sure that they know some of these people out there are impulsive and try to play it anyway. All I'm saying is that when they do that, it creates more confusion on the thread. The dev and modders have to go out of their way to explain, needlessly, that the alpha version is just that. The confusion creates even more anxiety among those waiting patiently as they try to figure out what's what.
I got NO problems with folks wanting to share the game early but, for respect to the devs, modders and the players, share the one that's been fairly well tested and not any old thing just because they Can. Seems simple enough to me.
It seems simple enough to me, as well.
Some folks on here want to play the beta version, but you and your pal quite obviously have your own little agenda in actively trying to discourage anyone from sharing it here.

And just to show that I'm not going to be intimidated by you, or your best mate, here's the link for anybody that wants it.

Just to clarify, I'm not asking , or 'forcing' ANYBODY to either play, or compress it.
Play at your own risk, yada, yada, etc, etc.



 
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It seems simple enough to me, as well.
Some folks on here want to play the beta version, but you and your pal quite obviously have your own little agenda in actively trying to discourage anyone from sharing it here.

And just to show that I'm not going to be intimidated by you, or your best mate, here's the link for anybody that wants it.

Just to clarify, I'm not asking , or 'forcing' ANYBODY to either play, or compress this.
Play at your own risk, yada, yada, etc, etc.



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I for one very much appreciate the link and your comment. If people want to play specific versions and someone has that version why shouldn't people be able to play it. Its outrageous to me if anyone is trying to restrict what people want to do as long as it doesn't hurt that person. If people know the version is beta or even alpha KNOWING there will be bugs and still want to play it, leave them THE F*** alone so they can.
 
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Thickgravy49

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I for one very much appreciate the link and your comment. If people want to play specific versions and someone has that version why shouldn't people be able to play it. Its outrageous to me if anyone is trying to restrict what people want to do as long as it doesn't hurt that person. If people know the version is beta or even alpha KNOWING there will be bugs and still want to play it, leave them THE F*** alone so they can.
I definitely appreciate it, mate.
There are one, or two people on here who seem to think they own the thread.
For me, it's just bullying and inimidation...Plain and simple.
 

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I always wait for the VN that is bug free and all old saves works like a champ
that's why really hope the HERO will share the VN here...
You could be waiting a while? The last two updates, it's been nearly 3 weeks after the VN version was released, before anyone provided links for it.

The problem is, the VN version is often released a day or so after, the bug-fixed beta version. And I'm guessing whoever provides the links for that, then disappears for a few weeks, having already played the update. Maybe you'll get lucky this time, and someone will provide the link immediately? But I wouldn't bet on it.
 
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I for one very much appreciate the link and your comment. If people want to play specific versions and someone has that version why shouldn't people be able to play it. Its outrageous to me if anyone is trying to restrict what people want to do as long as it doesn't hurt that person. If people know the version is beta or even alpha KNOWING there will be bugs and still want to play it, leave them THE F*** alone so they can.
Whoever provides the link, is doing it purely as a favour to everyone else, who isn't a patron. So if anyone is being outrageous, it's you, for suggesting that they're unfairly restricting your ability to play the game earlier. If someone wants to release it earlier they will, regardless of what you, me or anyone else says. If they don't, it's either because they don't agree with you or they're on a lower patreon tier ( than the $25 dollar or more tier, that gives you access to the earliest release).
 
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It seems simple enough to me, as well.
Some folks on here want to play the beta version, but you and your pal quite obviously have your own little agenda in actively trying to discourage anyone from sharing it here.

And just to show that I'm not going to be intimidated by you, or your best mate, here's the link for anybody that wants it.

Just to clarify, I'm not asking , or 'forcing' ANYBODY to either play, or compress it.
Play at your own risk, yada, yada, etc, etc.



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If this was so important to you, why would you wait over 16 hours to release the link? You made your first post regarding this last night, when you claimed to have played the update without any bugs. If you'd released it then, this morning's difference of opinion would probably never have happened.

From my perspective, I can't even play the sandbox version at all, because of a Windows 11 bug. So an early release of that, makes no difference to me. I always have to wait for the VN version now. But when I could play it. It was hugely irritating to download the full version, and then part way through the update find I couldn't go any further, because the early release version had some game-breaking bug. That's why I advise people to wait for the bug-fixed version, and hope that whoever releases the links here does the same. It's not an attempt to restrict people, but simply to make their game playing experience more enjoyable. Because I am very invested in this game, and I want other people to like it, as much as I do.
 
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Whoever provides the link, is doing it purely as a favour to everyone else, who isn't a patron. So if anyone is being outrageous, it's you, for suggesting that they're unfairly restricting your ability to play the game earlier. If someone wants to release it earlier they will, regardless of what you, me or anyone else says. If they don't, it's either because they don't agree with you or they're on a lower patreon tier ( than the $25 dollar or more tier, that gives you access to the earliest release).
um, what the F are you even saying? I stated that if people are trying to restrict who plays what version that they should stop. It has nothing to do with Patreon or not, it has to do with PEOPLE on the FORUM trying to tell OTHER PEOPLE what they can and can't do. Please learn to use your brain and not attack people for something they did not do or say.
 
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um, what the F are you even saying? I stated that if people are trying to restrict who plays what version that they should stop. It has nothing to do with Patreon or not, it has to do with PEOPLE on the FORUM trying to tell OTHER PEOPLE what they can and can't do. Please learn to use your brain and not attack people for something they did not do or say.
How is anybody disagreeing with you, restricting you at all? The only person 'restricting' you, is whoever provides the links.Which in this case, ironically turned out to be the person you were initially agreeing with. If anyone was 'restricting' you, it was him. Because he could have provided those links last night, if he'd wanted to.

All I was doing, was suggesting you wait until the bug-fixed version is released. That's not restricting anybody. It's just giving them sensible advice. Which you can choose to ignore, and it won't bother me at all.
 
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