VN Ren'Py Anna Exciting Affection [Ch.2 Ep.18] [DeepSleep]

[Gisgo]

I just finished the 1.6, Really great, highly enjoyable. Somewhat lukewarm reception of the update on this thread I find unwarranted,
Be advised, your choices from 1.5 are more important than expected. The game did not let me progress with the bar scene after Jeremy unless I was playing with Anna and Emily pole dancing option. If Anna fellates Patrick and is forced to do the same with two bar patrons, no further bar scene is available. This suggests that there will be a different scene following previous choices developed in the future updates. Does this mean that choices from 1.6 will have the like impact? Cell phone taken or not from fence creeps? Anna incurring Sergey s wrath for botching the deal or incurring FitzGerald s for completing it? Looking forward to the next updates to find out. I love this game.

 

[Waldo666]

Same than 1.15, from my 1.14 save nothing happens, no quest is starting, no NPC will interact. Guss I have to start it all again from scratch.

 

[morgan1122]

No weekly update this week!

 

[Pogo123]

No weekly update this week!

Well I think Deep has also a personal life which needs attention - which is very understandable.
And gamedev wise I think there is plenty of work to do for Deep.
Story is getting deeper and deeper, even more side stories added. More options/choices to implement and he needs to put more into his next update story telling wise than the last one. To make Anna’s development and choices more meaningful and give them more kind of sense.

And a princess like Anna needs and deserves that attention

 

[Darkman_13]

No weekly update this week!

Yesterday in Discord

 

[morgan1122]

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Well I think Deep has also a personal life which needs attention - which is very understandable.
And gamedev wise I think there is plenty of work to do for Deep.
Story is getting deeper and deeper, even more side stories added. More options/choices to implement and he needs to put more into his next update story telling wise than the last one. To make Anna’s development and choices more meaningful and give them more kind of sense.

And a princess like Anna needs and deserves that attention

Dev like a businessman and we are his customers. We pay money he will delivers our product in time it's his commitment. If he delays to deliver our product in time for personal life then he lost customers .if it's free than customers don't have complain on him

 

[PayMoneyForName]

I'm stuck at day 20, morning no quests, idk where to go, I tried everything

 

[Pogo123]

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Dev like a businessman and we are his customers. We pay money he will delivers our product in time it's his commitment. If he delays to deliver our product in time for personal life then he lost customers .if it's free than customers don't have complain on him

Well that’s true. That’s why I criticised his latest update. I, as an ex customer who looked forward to support him again, was very disappointed with the lastest work especially since photographer should just be a teaser for more.
If you currently support him I understand you. He is a nice person but we are also a nice community and deserve to be treated like that

 

[Gisgo]

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Dev like a businessman and we are his customers. We pay money he will delivers our product in time it's his commitment. If he delays to deliver our product in time for personal life then he lost customers .if it's free than customers don't have complain on him

It has been purported on this pages a while ago that Deep was Italian. Well, in Italy they have this thing called ferragosto, which means august holiday. Practically the whole (or most of the) nation is vacationing for the better part of the month. So, godspeed and the best of time for you, Deep.

 

[Gisgo]

I agree with your premises, and because I do, I have to (respectfully) disagree with your conclusion.
In term of story it's making less and less sense. We are about to reach the point where we have random sex scenes badly patch-up together (I'll pass on Andrew's plan on which we supposedly should be in awe despite the fact it is probably one of the dumbest thing).
I will not insist either on the exciting affection fading away over systematic abuse (we probably all have different tastes).
But the game is relying way too much on the quality of the models and renders (no argument there) and imho it is not sufficient anymore

But which game is better? As far as I can tell, all the games, and actually most of the porn in general suffers from same flaws, Same plot tropes circulate around all of the ntr and corruption games, And porn mostly consist of agglomeration of larger than life sex scenes with as little story as possible, However, those games fall far behind Anna in visual department, which is most important part, If you would be so kind to recommend us a better game out there, I will be most grateful.
Of course, all of the problems with plot and characters dynamics could be solved with a single stroke, For instance, we learn that real Anna is a litt student, paying for grad school tuition by writting porn novels with her alter ego as MC. Her editor (Jeremy? Alfred?) reprimends her along the above lines, and she then turns to a different porn story (fantasy, western, historical, what not).

 

[Pogo123]

But which game is better? As far as I can tell, all the games, and actually most of the porn in general suffers from same flaws, Same plot tropes circulate around all of the ntr and corruption games, And porn mostly consist of agglomeration of larger than life sex scenes with as little story as possible, However, those games fall far behind Anna in visual department, which is most important part, If you would be so kind to recommend us a better game out there, I will be most grateful.
Of course, all of the problems with plot and characters dynamics could be solved with a single stroke, For instance, we learn that real Anna is a litt student, paying for grad school tuition by writting porn novels with her alter ego as MC. Her editor (Jeremy? Alfred?) reprimends her along the above lines, and she then turns to a different porn story (fantasy, western, historical, what not).

Wow that last part is a genius idea lol! Would be a great foundation for more, different an more short- stories for Anna

 

[bobbo69]

I don't know if it's a bug, but at the bar with the taxman, no matter what choice you take, the end result is exactly the same

 

[Pogo123]

I don't know if it's a bug, but at the bar with the taxman, no matter what choice you take, the end result is exactly the same

Yep I already mentioned that.
I first time rejected him (cause I am no fan of the taxman) and got the scene as I would have not rejected him. + some scenes in the car had daylight background but the most were dark like how it should be

 

[Gisgo]

nah, I am not talking about realism or revolutionizing storytelling here. My point, which technically was yours originally, is what you summarized as:



except I tend to think that it effectively should be the other way around.

If this game was like Elena's Life whose plot is basically: "This is Elena, she's gonna find out she likes sex and have a lot of it" I would have no trouble.

Here we start with a character supposedly smart and a plot which attempts to be more sophisticated (that this is Anna, she sexes a lot). I am all for that. The problem is that quickly enough the plot makes no sense

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Again I am not saying the main reason we are here is for the plot and that it should be extraordinarily complex. But if between sex scene #1 and sex scene #2 it is just non sense, I think there is a problem. It puzzle me even more when I am told I just witness criminal masterminding at its best and all I see is a super dumb plan

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Well, I think you are missing my point here. As far as I can gather we both agree that games should be more plot and character driven (which would make them more exciting), but I emphasized the fact that porn most often is not. And not just porn I might add. but especially semi pro, part time developed games such as Anna. I get your frustration with all the plot silliness, however you should keep in mind that that is one man s effort, probablly done after day job, when the rest of us spend time playing erotic games, And I wonder if you saw season 8 of the GoT, That was done by professionals paid millions and the result was beyond the pale. All things considering, out boy Deep is not that bad. Although, Anna does go to neurologist to get a gynecological exam LOL.
As or Elena, the game practically shares the same plot with Anna, MC is constantly abused, and with time she discovers sex drive she cannot contol, which leads to more abuse. All those games follow same or similar pattern.

 

[Pogo123]

Well, I think you are missing my point here. As far as I can gather we both agree that games should be more plot and character driven (which would make them more exciting), but I emphasized the fact that porn most often is not. And not just porn I might add. but especially semi pro, part time developed games such as Anna. I get your frustration with all the plot silliness, however you should keep in mind that that is one man s effort, probablly done after day job, when the rest of us spend time playing erotic games, And I wonder if you saw season 8 of the GoT, That was done by professionals paid millions and the result was beyond the pale. All things considering, out boy Deep is not that bad. Although, Anna does go to neurologist to get a gynecological exam LOL.
As or Elena, the game practically shares the same plot with Anna, MC is constantly abused, and with time she discovers sex drive she cannot contol, which leads to more abuse. All those games follow same or similar pattern.

i agree with everything just the part where you say we all play games when guys like deep make our games is essentially right too but if i could chose to have the pc, knowledge, money and time to make characters and renders like deep does i would stop playing (for the most part at least) and would work to create my own "perfect" fantasie which i can lead. i wouldn't care much if others play more or have more free time cause its my passion. its like modding Skyrim, which i tried and would have modded myself to the max when many things in my life didn't turned in some other direction (sadly) ...

 

[Gisgo]

i agree with everything just the part where you say we all play games when guys like deep make our games is essentially right too but if i could chose to have the pc, knowledge, money and time to make characters and renders like deep does i would stop playing (for the most part at least) and would work to create my own "perfect" fantasie which i can lead. i wouldn't care much if others play more or have more free time cause its my passion. its like modding Skyrim, which i tried and would have modded myself to the max when many things in my life didn't turned in some other direction (sadly) ...

It seems that two of us essentially agree on the issues, only that I am somewhat more forgiving (I find Anna quite persuasive when she throws herself at the clemency of my court lol) if not forgetting. Let us stress out that those games could and should be better and at least make effort ro improve. You are absolutely right about necessity for a developer to aproach the creation of a game with passion and aim at excellence in every respect, and to use game as device to make personal sexual dreams come true, rather than just go trough the numbers and treat plot as necessary evil rather than main tool.
And I am impressed with the fact that you modded Skyrim, I have not time even to install it properly, and managed to play it only for a bit, due to professional obligations. Seen some porn Skyrim modding and found it interesting. Would not mind seeing Anna in a fantasy world like that, not necssarly with that engine. High fantasy is so well traveled road, and reasonably plausible plot should be within everybody s reach lol.

 

[Amnios]

It's boring, it's the same story without Anna having sex.
It is one of the bad points of the game, there is no variation or reward for being a good girlfriend.

The whole point of the game is you're NOT a very good girlfriend

 

[bakuon]

Did anybody play such a path where Anna resists to all temptations and sucks no cock and doesn't fuck around? If yes, how does that work and to what does it lead? Spoil me please , i'm curious Maybe also if Anna takes only lesbian temptations...

Are there separate paths in this game generally? I don't see special images that don't appear in the "Anna slutty-cheating" path or should i say "Anna Hot Wife" path lol?

Till now i have chosen to suck all the cocks and accepted all sexual situations except as I had enough from Jeremmy and said no as he went really too far and then i let him get killed. Because i don't like a submissive Anna (in spite of the fact that the dev continues to drive her in that direction). I would love more an Anna who indeed has great passion for sex but doesn't lose control but on the contrary, she takes control of the men and uses her beauty her talents and her addiction to sex in her own interest and/or for her pure pleasure, which she ACCEPTS as given instead of trying to resist, complaining and being confused by it permanently. Is there such a path already maybe depending on choices?

if I remember correctly I tried at first to make the choice to refuse, but when she says no to suck a dick, the developer makes sure you suck anyway. there's really no choice in this game. it looks more and more like a bad porn movie
- Oops, I dropped something, I have to pick it up.....
- What an ass... I'll fuck him good.
- Oh, no, I'm not that kind of girl.
- Oh, then go ahead, I don't know how to say no.

really too bad because the character of anna deserved much better. the developer had started a good quality game with good characters and good little story but now it's just a fuck scene that repeats over and over again. as you say anna is too "submissive" I also think it would be so much better "an Anna who indeed has great passion for sex but doesn't lose control but on the contrary, she takes control of the men and uses her beauty her talents and her addiction to sex in her own interest and for her pure pleasure"

 

[Pogo123]

if I remember correctly I tried at first to make the choice to refuse, but when she says no to suck a dick, the developer makes sure you suck anyway. there's really no choice in this game. it looks more and more like a bad porn movie
- Oops, I dropped something, I have to pick it up.....
- What an ass... I'll fuck him good.
- Oh, no, I'm not that kind of girl.
- Oh, then go ahead, I don't know how to say no.

really too bad because the character of anna deserved much better. the developer had started a good quality game with good characters and good little story but now it's just a fuck scene that repeats over and over again. as you say anna is too "submissive" I also think it would be so much better "an Anna who indeed has great passion for sex but doesn't lose control but on the contrary, she takes control of the men and uses her beauty her talents and her addiction to sex in her own interest and for her pure pleasure"

Your dialogue was quite funny to read. ^^

About you and other ideas what Anna should do/what she deserves and that there should be more (and real) options:

Everything right and fine but then Deep would have to go over all old scene form the last patches this year to make everything more believable and immersive and free.
That would be a ton of work unfortunately.
And even he would go other directions and give Anna now more options and possibilities it would synergies with her previous version since many patches.
Maybe if you play only the new updates it would work but playing the hole game (what should be the main goal)
Would make everything look unpolished like the character can’t decide.

- I don’t want to get naked and suck your dick - okay then you have to do xy.

- i don’t want to get naked and suck your dick - idc suck my dick - okay

- I don’t want to get naked and suck your dick (no that’s not an Option. I either seduce the guy and suck his dick or i try to find another way...)

Is that believable character development? Better let her fuck cluelessly imo.

Maybe it would have been nice to have some sort of attributes when I think about it.

Like intelligence (low -> get seduced; high -> has options) and so on

 

[PayMoneyForName]

I'm stuck at day 20, morning no quests, idk where to go, I tried everything