Zara Scarlet

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In what order do I download the game / chapters? There are like 4 different downloads and im not sure which one is the correct.
The short novels only have a very tenuous connection to the main game. So you can play them at anytime really without affecting your enjoyment. I would start playing Chapter 1 and get well into it, before playing any of the short novels. Because once you have a feel for Anna, and understand something of her character, they'll make a bit more sense.

The short novels at present are in this chronological sequence. Anna's First Time, then Hard Exam 1 and 2, Old Church and finally Anna Christmas Gift. But you could play them in any order ( apart from Hard Exam 1 and 2) without it making any real difference
 
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As a person who actually talks to the Devs, and has had many of their motivations for this game explained in person. I reckon I'm in a better position to interpret it, than you are. You see it's not what I think at all. It's what they've told me during our discussions. And that's what you're not getting.

Awake, who now writes most of the story, told me that making it as realistic and believable as possible was very important to him. And something both him and Deep were in agreement on. That's why he's so interested what patrons have to say on the Discord channel, and if someone points out a flaw in the plot there, he always responds and often makes changes in the next update.
I didn't know that, I once also chatted with DeepSleep in discord, but this game was still at the 0.9(part 1) stage, maybe you weren't there yet, because I didn't see you there then. I didn't know you had such a close relationship with these developers, that says a lot about you and your behavior:sneaky:
 
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Of course, you know better than the Devs themselves. I don't know why they would possibly suggest something you think is unreasonable?

For those who don't consider themselves to be arrogant enough to tell the Devs that they don't know what they're talking about. The renaissance path is actually being made by the people who are creating this game. The people who know better than anyone else, what needs to happen in this game, to tell the story that they want to tell.

No Anna hasn't split up with Andrew yet, but she's seriously considering it. She just wants Andrew to have a chance, to tell his side of the story. So she can make an informed decision. But even if, she decides to give Andrew the benefit of the doubt, and stay with him, she's still going to have serious misgivings about some of his stupid decisions. Andrew will still have a lot to prove, about whether he's sensible and mature enough to have a long term relationship with Anna. Hence the need for a renaissance route.

How that's going to work I don't know. So far the Devs have said very little about it. If Andrew has to prove his worthiness to Anna, does that mean that the player will be given choices for Andrew himself? Thus making him into a protagonist on that one route?
By the way, by what right does this whore (Anna) demand any explanation from Andrew. She wants to decide whether to give him credit? From a mere human trash who is just a sperm bag, nothing more. Besides, he kidnapped her sister, the same whore who, like her, liked to fuck all the time. So what does this bitch Anna have a problem with, because I don't understand it.
 
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By the way, by what right does this whore (Anna) demand any explanation from Andrew. She wants to decide whether to give him credit? From a mere human trash who is just a sperm bag, nothing more. Besides, he kidnapped her sister, the same whore who, like her, liked to fuck all the time. So what does this bitch Anna have a problem with, because I don't understand it.
I think that now it is worth asking such questions in the discord of this game, as we already know there is close communication with the audience (Although I don't think you can outdo the ass-kissers who are already there. ). As for your question, I think the only thing Andrew is to blame for is the size of his dick, considering the devices that were in Anna's cunt, Andrew's dick will clearly not be enough for Anna. Although perhaps Dr. Schmidt could remedy this situation and secretly enlarge andrew's penis, it would be a gift for anna, or it could be a side effect of the medication andrew is taking and the surgery he had.
 
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I think Anna getting another boyfriend, just so she can go on cheating, would be pretty silly. If she splits up with Andrew, then the only way she can realistically carry on being promiscous, is if she has no partner or agrees to have an open relationship with one. Why would she get involved with someone else, just so she can openly cheat on them? That wouldn't make any sense. If Anna starts a new relationship, that doesn't start off as an open one, it's because she's decided to change her ways and stop fucking around. Because the new person that she's with is sufficient to satisfy her needs.

I agree as it stands, the cheating aspect is dead in the water. Which is why I was one of the 20 people who voted for Andrew's status to remain the same ( contrary to what some people would have you believe). Technically, Anna is still cheating on Andrew, but since he's more or less absent from the game, there's no risk of her being discovered. Which undermines the entire cheating premise. Not what I wanted at all. But the majority of patrons wanted something else, and I just had to accept it. Which is the nature of democracy. Sometimes you don't get what you want.

So the cheating aspect of the game, has pretty much passed. Andrew is not getting out of hospital anytime soon ( it takes weeks to recover sufficiently from a life threatening gunshot wound to the chest, to become mobile). So this idea that Andrew is suddenly going to take up where he left off, prior to the shooting, anytime soon. Well it's not going to happen. Andrew will be conscious, but he's still going to be in hospital. And when he comes out, he's going to be convalescing for months. My guess is, apart from the renaissance route Andrew will not return to the apartment. By the time he's fit enough to leave hospital Anna will have made her decision to keep him or dump him, and she will have told him. So if she decides to dump him, the apartment is in her name, and Andrew will be looking elsewhere for accomodation. For the final part of the game he'll then be largely irrelevant. Only on the renaissance route will he continue to play an active role
The game does have the avenue of Anna possibly gettin' quick Las Vegas married to Alfred (for some sort of mutual beneficial reason finance/tax/psycho greedy family etc. ) but Alfred is fine with sharing Anna and Anna having sexual adventures on her own too would be a cool way of Anna still being in a relationship for those scenes that need Anna to still have initial resistant to choices she may have to make, giving kink and weight to these choices. And this will allow for a neat exit of Andrew from the game/ go into a coma etc.
 

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By the way, by what right does this whore (Anna) demand any explanation from Andrew. She wants to decide whether to give him credit? From a mere human trash who is just a sperm bag, nothing more. Besides, he kidnapped her sister, the same whore who, like her, liked to fuck all the time. So what does this bitch Anna have a problem with, because I don't understand it.
If you hate the content so much, why do you make so many comments in this thread? If I hated a game, as much as you seem to hate this one. I'd concentrate my efforts commenting on a game that I did like instead. Trust me it's a lot more satisfying. You only have like just over 100 comments, and I'm guessing the vast majority are on this thread, but you hardly ever say anything positive here. What's the point?
 
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By the way, by what right does this whore (Anna) demand any explanation from Andrew. She wants to decide whether to give him credit? From a mere human trash who is just a sperm bag, nothing more. Besides, he kidnapped her sister, the same whore who, like her, liked to fuck all the time. So what does this bitch Anna have a problem with, because I don't understand it.
Dem be fighting words Sir / Ma'am.
Thou has some serious pent up feels, glad these games give you an avenue to help thou vent them successfully and do hope that IRL the Ladies are respected as they should be.

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If you hate the content so much, why do you make so many comments in this thread? If I hated a game, as much as you seem to hate this one. I'd concentrate my efforts commenting on a game that I did like instead. Trust me it's a lot more satisfying. You only have like just over 100 comments, and I'm guessing the vast majority are on this thread, but you hardly ever say anything positive here. What's the point?
See, I'm having trouble understanding how a common whore like Anna has the right to demand an explanation from her boyfriend, especially since she's cheating on him. It's the same as if you've done something wrong and resent someone else. Fucking hypocrisy. And you're right, I despise this game from CH2, I didn't like her sister from the beginning of this game. And if you are so curious what I have in these 100 posts, take a look xD Because I don't know why you bring up this topic.
 

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I think that now it is worth asking such questions in the discord of this game, as we already know there is close communication with the audience (Although I don't think you can outdo the ass-kissers who are already there. ). As for your question, I think the only thing Andrew is to blame for is the size of his dick, considering the devices that were in Anna's cunt, Andrew's dick will clearly not be enough for Anna. Although perhaps Dr. Schmidt could remedy this situation and secretly enlarge andrew's penis, it would be a gift for anna, or it could be a side effect of the medication andrew is taking and the surgery he had.
I understand you don't like the direction of the game, but if you think Deepsleep is going to magically change the entire direction of this game, and suddenly transform both Anna and Andrew into completely different characters, you are sadly mistaken. The patrons can only influence a very small part of the game. 95% of it, is and always will be Deepsleep's creation. Anna and Andrew are the way they are, because Deep wanted them to be that way. And nothing you or I, or anybody else for that matter, will ever change that.

Andrew is a pathetic loser because Deepsleep intended for him to be one. His sole purpose in the game, is to be the schmuck that Anna cheats on. It's not just to do with the size of his penis, he's also immature, lazy and an idiot. His only saving grace is that he seems to genuinely love Anna. But that won't be enough to keep Anna with him

Up until the end of Chapter 1, Deep fully intended for Anna to eventually dump Andrew. I mean he set him up to be the loser, didn't he. Since then Awake has joined as the main writer, and he persuaded Deep to eventually create a new route, where Anna gives Andrew another chance. This will be what they are calling the Renaissance Route, and on that route only, Anna and Andrew in particular will both change a lot, giving them the chance to end the game together. So if you're an Andrew supporter, you will eventually get what you want, a happy ending for Anna and Andrew.

Exactly what form that happy ending is going to take though, I have no idea. It's impossible to deny that Anna has changed significantly since the game started, and even if she gets cured of her condition, we're not going to get a full reset of her personality. My guess is, both of them will have to make compromises and Andrew in particular will have to make major changes to his mindset, and accept that Anna is no longer the pure woman that he put on a pedestal.

On all the other routes though, they will continue to drift further apart, and eventually Anna will dump Andrew.
 

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See, I'm having trouble understanding how a common whore like Anna has the right to demand an explanation from her boyfriend, especially since she's cheating on him. It's the same as if you've done something wrong and resent someone else. Fucking hypocrisy. And you're right, I despise this game from CH2, I didn't like her sister from the beginning of this game. And if you are so curious what I have in these 100 posts, take a look xD Because I don't know why you bring up this topic.
Andrew collaborated in kidnapping her sister. If your partner kidnapped a member of your family for whatever reason, wouldn't you be upset about it? Alright Anna is cheating on Andrew, and if he knew about it, I'm guessing he'd be very upset about it. But he doesn't know about it. As far as he's concerned she's still his loving and faithful girlfriend. So he's not even done it to get even. He's done it because he's basically a louse and a complete idiot.

Even if he did know about Anna cheating on him. Yeah, that would be bad from Andrew's perspective. And he'd be well within his rights to be very angry with Anna. But kidnapping someone is whole other level above cheating on a partner. And when the person you kidnap, just happens to be the closest family member of your partner. Well that's just evil. So yeah Anna does have a right to demand an explaination, regardless of what she's done herself. Even if it wasn't her sister, it would still have been an incredibly nasty and stupid act
 
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Andrew collaborated in kidnapping her sister. If your partner kidnapped a member of your family for whatever reason, wouldn't you be upset about it? Alright Anna is cheating on Andrew, and if he knew about it, I'm guessing he'd be very upset about it. But he doesn't know about it. As far as he's concerned she's still his loving and faithful girlfriend. So he's not even done it to get even. He's done it because he's basically a louse and a complete idiot.

Even if he did know about Anna cheating on him. Yeah, that would be bad from Andrew's perspective. And he'd be well within his rights to be very angry with Anna. But kidnapping someone is whole other level above cheating on a partner. And when the person you kidnap, just happens to be the closest family member of your partner. Well that's just evil. So yeah Anna does have a right to demand an explaination, regardless of what she's done herself. Even if it wasn't her sister, it would still have been an incredibly nasty and stupid act
The whole branch where andrew kidnaps rebecca is stupid, it's a shame that DeepSleep didn't give us a choice to make a more logical choice.
 
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I understand you don't like the direction of the game, but if you think Deepsleep is going to magically change the entire direction of this game, and suddenly transform both Anna and Andrew into completely different characters, you are sadly mistaken. The patrons can only influence a very small part of the game. 95% of it, is and always will be Deepsleep's creation. Anna and Andrew are the way they are, because Deep wanted them to be that way. And nothing you or I, or anybody else for that matter, will ever change that.

Andrew is a pathetic loser because Deepsleep intended for him to be one. His sole purpose in the game, is to be the schmuck that Anna cheats on. It's not just to do with the size of his penis, he's also immature, lazy and an idiot. His only saving grace is that he seems to genuinely love Anna. But that won't be enough to keep Anna with him

Up until the end of Chapter 1, Deep fully intended for Anna to eventually dump Andrew. I mean he set him up to be the loser, didn't he. Since then Awake has joined as the main writer, and he persuaded Deep to eventually create a new route, where Anna gives Andrew another chance. This will be what they are calling the Renaissance Route, and on that route only, Anna and Andrew in particular will both change a lot, giving them the chance to end the game together. So if you're an Andrew supporter, you will eventually get what you want, a happy ending for Anna and Andrew.

Exactly what form that happy ending is going to take though, I have no idea. It's impossible to deny that Anna has changed significantly since the game started, and even if she gets cured of her condition, we're not going to get a full reset of her personality. My guess is, both of them will have to make compromises and Andrew in particular will have to make major changes to his mindset, and accept that Anna is no longer the pure woman that he put on a pedestal.

On all the other routes though, they will continue to drift further apart, and eventually Anna will dump Andrew.
I don't want to offend you, but you are a very hypocritical person, there are many rumors about you and your influence on this game(Please don't write hypocritical words about how it's disrespectful to say that someone could have influenced DeepSleep and the history of the game, because you know it's not true.). Now as for andrew, it seems to me that your hatred for this character is due to jealousy and envy, you just can't understand how a beautiful woman like Anna could choose an idiot like andrew (of course DeepSleep made him an idiot, everyone understands that and I dont have problems with it, but looking at other caricature characters, andrew is still a good choice and a good ending for Anna).
 

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The game does have the avenue of Anna possibly gettin' quick Las Vegas married to Alfred (for some sort of mutual beneficial reason finance/tax/psycho greedy family etc. ) but Alfred is fine with sharing Anna and Anna having sexual adventures on her own too would be a cool way of Anna still being in a relationship for those scenes that need Anna to still have initial resistant to choices she may have to make, giving kink and weight to these choices. And this will allow for a neat exit of Andrew from the game/ go into a coma etc.
I'm pretty certain Alfred and Anna will get some kind of ending together. Whether they get married or end up having an open relationship I don't know. Certainly Alfred would be one partner I can see allowing Anna to carry on with her sexual adventures.

Are you suggesting that Anna and Alfred have an open relationship within the game, rather than as an ending? And then Anna sometimes does her own thing, but doesn't tell Alfred about it? I suppose that might work, if you wanted to keep cheating in the game, without Andrew. But everything Deep has said so far, suggests he's not planning to do anything like that
 
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I understand you don't like the direction of the game, but if you think Deepsleep is going to magically change the entire direction of this game, and suddenly transform both Anna and Andrew into completely different characters, you are sadly mistaken. The patrons can only influence a very small part of the game. 95% of it, is and always will be Deepsleep's creation. Anna and Andrew are the way they are, because Deep wanted them to be that way. And nothing you or I, or anybody else for that matter, will ever change that.

Andrew is a pathetic loser because Deepsleep intended for him to be one. His sole purpose in the game, is to be the schmuck that Anna cheats on. It's not just to do with the size of his penis, he's also immature, lazy and an idiot. His only saving grace is that he seems to genuinely love Anna. But that won't be enough to keep Anna with him

Up until the end of Chapter 1, Deep fully intended for Anna to eventually dump Andrew. I mean he set him up to be the loser, didn't he. Since then Awake has joined as the main writer, and he persuaded Deep to eventually create a new route, where Anna gives Andrew another chance. This will be what they are calling the Renaissance Route, and on that route only, Anna and Andrew in particular will both change a lot, giving them the chance to end the game together. So if you're an Andrew supporter, you will eventually get what you want, a happy ending for Anna and Andrew.

Exactly what form that happy ending is going to take though, I have no idea. It's impossible to deny that Anna has changed significantly since the game started, and even if she gets cured of her condition, we're not going to get a full reset of her personality. My guess is, both of them will have to make compromises and Andrew in particular will have to make major changes to his mindset, and accept that Anna is no longer the pure woman that he put on a pedestal.

On all the other routes though, they will continue to drift further apart, and eventually Anna will dump Andrew.
I'm very glad that the game has grown so much technically, the new animations are incredible, the game has music, maybe in the future there will be voice acting, I hope DeepSleep will be able to realize everything he has planned, but the story is not as exciting as it was before, at least I think so and as you can see I'm not the only on
 
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The whole branch where andrew kidnaps rebecca is stupid, it's a shame that DeepSleep didn't give us a choice to make a more logical choice.
It's stupid because Andrew is stupid. It's exactly the daft kind of thing he'd get mixed up in. Andrew is not a sensible person. He does a lot things without thinking through the consequences. If he'd thought for one minute. He'd have realised that kidnapping your girlfriend's beloved sister, is maybe not the smartest thing to do. And definitely not guaranteed to make her carry on thinking you're a great guy. One of the main purposes of that plot is to demonstrate that Andrew is an idiot. So that Anna can see that in unequivocal terms. After the kidnapping she can't deny any longer, that all the bad things her friends and family have been saying about Andrew, all the way through their relationship, are true.
 
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