VN Ren'Py Anna Exciting Affection [Ch.2 Ep.18] [DeepSleep]

[Zara Scarlet]

I remember years ago he was going to make him a full on cuck, and it started with Anna giving a BJ to the black guy ig and Andrew walked in and that was supposed to be the first step in that path. But then he said he'd push back this initiation and IDK what happened after it but I guess he just neglected the idea as a whole.

I don't think he's ever suggested that he planned to make Andrew into a cuck. I asked about this two years ago, and although he didn't rule it out, he didn't say it was going to happen either. There are certain things in the game, that are set in stone, and Deep won't budge on them at all. There is a broad framework that the game has to follow. But within that there is leeway to change things, if the Devs feel they want to take a somewhat different line. And that's how the Devs are occasionally able to accomodate the wishes of patrons.

For instance, I don't think Deep originally planned for Anna to be dominant, in the way she probably will be eventually on the criminal path. That's something that has changed over time. And it may be, that making Andrew into a more conventional cuck, to allow their relationship to continue, may be another example of that? But at this stage, it's too early to tell. Deep always keeps his cards close to his chest, and doesn't reveal a lot about future developments until they're actually upon us. It's also equally possible Andrew's so-called 'Renaissance Route' will take an entirely different tack.

The event you're talking about was during the drug deal at the motel, and she was actually giving a BJ to the guy they were selling the drugs to, after he threatened to pull out of the deal. He was actually white ( Michael, Sergey's black henchman was there, but he just watched on while Anna saved the day) and Andrew was outside the room on the balcony keeping watch. Eventually, he gets anxious after the deal seems to be taking too long, and almost walks in on Anna giving the other guy a BJ.
I don't think Deep ever really intended for Andrew to become a cuck, in the conventional sense. He was just toying with the players, making them think it might happen, by creating an element of doubt in Andrew's mind, but nothing he ever truly believed in.

Back then, in Chapter 1, the game was so linear, there wasn't a lot of leeway to create a completely separate path where Andrew was a cuck. So I can't imagine that Deep ever seriously entertained that idea?

 

[Asasasthe]

Could someone plz share saves for sandbox version mac. I played VN and now it didn’t work

 

[RecklessOG]

How do you scroll the phone in sandbox version of game in Android!There is no side bar to scroll contacts?

 

[Asoka9]

How do you scroll the phone in sandbox version of game in Android!There is no side bar to scroll contacts?

It cannot be done I suppose. You are pretty much stuck. I also faced the same.

 

[Gearz24]

Scenes this update felt underwhelming, even in previous updates. Unpopular opinion but I think Anna's best scenes are with BBC now, should probably have more of that instead of the stale foreplay recently

At this point that's what the updates will be stale and boring, wish dev would just finish game and put out of it's misery.

 

[RecklessOG]

It cannot be done I suppose. You are pretty much stuck. I also faced the same.

I just wasted my time than playing the sandbox version I was going to wait for the VN but is there no another way?

 

[minibaer12]

For instance, I don't think Deep originally planned for Anna to be dominant, in the way she probably will be eventually on the criminal path. That's something that has changed over time.

I seem to recall that there were already strong trends in Chapter 1, probably starting with the ordering of Jeremy's death.

 

[pleaseletme]

Android port updated (VN)​

Is this episode 15?

 

[GifMeMore1987]

Is this episode 15?

Your quoted Post names the version number! (Ep. 14 Fix 1 VN)

 

[Thickgravy49]

All I'm going on, is what the Dev of this game has told me. I do actually talk to him, rather than about him as a lot of people on this thread appear to do. I have no reason to believe he is lying to me. Most of my information comes from the horses mouth, and is not just rumours or hypothesis. You may not always like what he does, but he's developed a very successful game, that has stood the test of time ( 7 years is an eternity in Adult games) and is still going strong. I'm pretty certain him and Awake know what they're doing and have a strong longterm plan for this game, and the logic behind that scene and others will become more apparent in future updates.

If it's so easy to do gangbang/orgy scenes as you claim, then why is it nobody does them? I've spoken to loads of Devs that would love to incorporate such scenes in their games, but virtually none do. So sorry, I think you're over simplifying a more complicated process, that is major time sink. I may not be as familiar with the technical side as you are, but I'm pretty sure Deep is, and he explained to me that scenes with multiple characters take much longer to produce, than scenes with just two characters. Now that might be only that the initial set-up of renders is more complicated and time consuming in those cases, but it makes little difference where the added time comes from, if the end result is having to spend much longer to release updates.

I see how you've tried to twist my words, there.
I never said it was so easy to do, as you're claiming.
I said once the initial set-up is done, it's just like any other scene, as long as you have the hardware to cope with the extra figures.
Isn't that what I said? It is, isn't it?
You know this and Deep knows that, but I also know what I know and I stand by what I've said.
It's not a 'major time sink' at all. You're talking several hours max, then adjusting the figures as the scene develops.

I get that you're seriously invested with these devs, but why not try a little objectivity on for size, once in a while?
It seems to me like you take every single word these guys say to you as the gospel truth, that can't be disputed by anyone.

 

[cebs]

How will Auto Mode Help me scroll message in the phone inside the game? I am stuck. Your direction regarding this matter will be helpful.

After looking at your print i know now that's not my port, that's the sandbox version, mine is VN...
I didn't realized before

 

[Zara Scarlet]

I see how you've tried to twist my words, there.
I never said it was so easy to do, as you're claiming.
I said once the initial set-up is done, it's just like any other scene, as long as you have the hardware to cope with the extra figures.
Isn't that what I said? It is, isn't it?
You know this and Deep knows that, but I also know what I know and I stand by what I've said.
It's not a 'major time sink' at all. You're talking several hours max, then adjusting the figures as the scene develops.

I get that you're seriously invested with these devs, but why not try a little objectivity on for size, once in a while?
It seems to me like you take every single word these guys say to you as the gospel truth, that can't be disputed by anyone.

No, you gave the impression that it was easy to do, even if you didn't actually say that. Even now, you're more or less claiming that the Devs are lying, and it's far easier to do than they say it is. Which way is it? First you say it's not easy to do, then you immediately contradict yourself by claiming that it's not a major time sink at all, and would take a few hours max.

Anyone who has spoken online to Deep and Awake knows they are not in the habit of misconstruing anything. It's not a case of objectivity, but having a little faith in people, who have never given any reason to mistrust them. Everything you're claiming is based on what you've heard from other people, or decided for yourself based on limited information, whereas I have actually talked to them in person. I know which way I think is likely to be closest to the truth.

 

[Thickgravy49]

No, you gave the impression that it was easy to do, even if you didn't actually say that. Even now, you're more or less claiming that the Devs are lying, and it's far easier to do than they say it is. Which way is it? First you say it's not easy to do, then you immediately contradict yourself by claiming that it's not a major time sink at all, and would take a few hours max.

Anyone who has spoken online to Deep and Awake knows they are not in the habit of misconstruing anything. It's not a case of objectivity, but having a little faith in people, who have never given any reason to mistrust them. Everything you're claiming is based on what you've heard from other people, or decided for yourself based on limited information, whereas I have actually talked to them in person. I know which way I think is likely to be closest to the truth.

Everything I'm saying is based on my own personal experience with Daz, which is considerable and it's got nothing to do with anything I've heard from anyone else.
I don't care what Deep says, or you, for that matter.
Like I said, I know what I know to be fact. I've done thousands of renders.
Your constant white-knighting of those guys is irritating, but like I also said, you're way too much invested in them to believe anything other than what they say.
That's the last I'm saying on this matter. Let's move on.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

Everything I'm saying is based on my own personal experience with Daz, it's not nothing to do with anything I've heard form anyone else.
I don't care what Deep says, or you, for that matter.
Like I said, I know what I know to be fact.
Your constant white-knighting of those guys is irritating, but like I also said, you're way too much invested in them to believe anything other than what they say.
That's the last I'm saying on this matter. Let's move on.

I'm not white knighting them. I'm simply relaying the truth, based on my actual conversations with them. As someone who has had a lot of conversations with them, yes I think I'm better qualified to give an objective view of the Devs, over someone whose information on them, is all second hand.

In any case, you're wrong. I've criticised the Devs on several occasions, where I felt the criticism was warranted. They may be excellent Devs, who serve their patrons well on the whole, but they're not perfect by any means. Awake by his own admission, made an absolute whopper of an error in the coding, near the beginning of Chapter 2, which has caused them no end of problems going forward. He could have kept silent about that, but when asked what had caused the problems, he owned up to it, even though it was personally embarrassing for him ( because it's resulted in so many issues for players). And that's why I trust them, because they've proved that they're honest, by not being afraid to admit when they get things wrong.

 

[Thickgravy49]

I'm not white knighting them. I'm simply relaying the truth, based on my actual conversations with them. As someone who has had a lot of conversations with them, yes I think I'm better qualified to give an objective view of the Devs, over someone whose information on them, is all second hand.

I said I didn't want to go any further, but you just won't leave it will you?
All you are is a white-knighter and someone who just thinks they own/police this whole thread on behalf of the devs.
I think you're confusing fact with your opinion, cos at the end of the day, that's all it is.
You don't own the thread.
Members should be able to have an opinion without getting constantly rebuked by you.
It's a shame you haven't anything better to do with your time. You're just sad.

 

[xapican]

I had on each 2nd screen of the John scene a Traceback.txt anyone else run into this ?? rest of the update run like a charm..
Loved the Cosplay party.

 

[Thickgravy49]

I'm not white knighting them. I'm simply relaying the truth, based on my actual conversations with them. As someone who has had a lot of conversations with them, yes I think I'm better qualified to give an objective view of the Devs, over someone whose information on them, is all second hand.

In any case, you're wrong. I've criticised the Devs on several occasions, where I felt the criticism was warranted. They may be excellent Devs, who serve their patrons well on the whole, but they're not perfect by any means. Awake by his own admission, made an absolute whopper of an error in the coding, near the beginning of Chapter 2, which has caused them no end of problems going forward. He could have kept silent about that, but when asked what had caused the problems, he owned up to it, even though it was personally embarrassing for him ( because it's resulted in so many issues for players). And that's why I trust them, because they've proved that they're honest, by not being afraid to admit when they get things wrong.

No, you're wrong.
And why are you wasting your time on me, when you could be on discord, getting the 'truth' from your heroes?
I'm not wasting any more time replying to you.
I'm busy right now, so have a nice evening. Goodbye.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

I said I didn't want to go any further, but you just won't leave it will you?
All you are is a white-knighter and someone who just thinks they own/police this whole thread on behalf of the devs.
I think you're confusing fact with your opinion, cos at the end of the day, that's all it is.
You don't own the thread.
Members should be able to have an opinion without getting constantly rebuked by you.
It's a shame you haven't anything better to do with your time. You're just sad.

So it's alright for you to criticise them, but it's not alright for me to support them. And when I do, you claim that I'm sad. I'm sorry but I trust my actual information from the Devs themselves, over your second hand information any day. If you're getting your information from the Devs themselves it's not an opinion, it's fact. What you're saying is an opinion. So I think you're the one who is actually confused.

 

[Thickgravy49]

So it's alright for you to criticise them, but it's not alright for me to support them. And when I do, you claim that I'm sad. I'm sorry but I trust my actual information from the Devs themselves, over your second hand information any day. If you're getting your information from the Devs themselves it's not an opinion, it's fact. What you're saying is an opinion. So I think you're the one who is actually confused.

No, I'm not confused at all. You're a white-knighter. End of.
You want to keep going with this, cos it's getting pretty boring, the way you keep repeating yourself like that?
Or are you just going to do what people like you always do and report me to the mods, 'cos you can't bully me off the thread?

 

[Zara Scarlet]

I just wasted my time than playing the sandbox version I was going to wait for the VN but is there no another way?

I'm afraid for some of us, the sandbox version is not presently an option. A Windows update from last year, is incompatible with the game apparently. The Devs thought they might have a solution, but maybe it didn't pan out after all? Perhaps when Windows eventually update that update, it will simply work itself out, or they'll eventually correct whatever bug is causing the issue. But Windows often work very slowly, so it could be a while. In the meantime, the VN is the only way to play this game, for you, me and others with the same issue.