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That is an old save issue in the sandbox version. That's why they provide saves at the beginning of each version, which apparently gets around this issue, for most people. If you insist on using your own old saves, you're likely to get exceptions. It's caused by the phone function, that was poorly implemented, many updates ago. Unfortunately, there is no easy solution to it, beyond starting Chapter 2 again from scratch. So I don't think it's a case of them not trying to fix this, but of not knowing how to, without causing a considerable delay to future updates. Fortunately, the VN version does not suffer from these issues, because the phone function is not a part of it.

Not everyone though is affected by this issue. Some people can play the sandbox version without getting these exceptions. But it seems to be affecting more and more people as Chapter 2 progresses, and as you noted it can cause issues with earlier parts of the game, when a new update is released. But the problem for most people, is the saves that they have made in previous updates. If you were to start the game from the beginning in every update, this would not be an issue for the vast majority of players. Obviously though, that is not an ideal solution, so if you want to play the sandbox version, I suggest you use the saves provided by the Devs and ignore any older saves you've made yourself.

There are also a small minority of players (myself included) who cannot play the sandbox version at all, because of a Windows 11 incompatibilty issue, which has not been addressed by Microsoft ( not everything is the fault of the Devs). Fortunately, as I mentioned earlier, the VN version is not affected by this or the old save issue. So if you want to follow your own path through the game, then the VN version is the best way, because old saves work perfectly well in this version and don't cause exceptions.
I appreciate the response. And know im not dismissing your claimes, i will try the VN version. However with that being said, i would like to point out when my save first broke I decided to start from the beginnning, came across the same issue, chose to follow different paths from the beginning again, still came across it. When this new update came out, i started all over and still came across it but earlier on. I dont know if im just EXTREMELY unlucky, but i dont believe its a random encounter per say anymore.
 

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I appreciate the response. And know im not dismissing your claimes, i will try the VN version. However with that being said, i would like to point out when my save first broke I decided to start from the beginnning, came across the same issue, chose to follow different paths from the beginning again, still came across it. When this new update came out, i started all over and still came across it but earlier on. I dont know if im just EXTREMELY unlucky, but i dont believe its a random encounter per say anymore.
I'm the same, I can't play the sandbox version whatever I do. It seems to be connected to the phone function, which is probably why they can't do anything to permanently correct it. Because the only longterm solution is probably to remove the phone completely, which would mean revamping the whole of Chapter 2. Some people also appear to have compatibility issues with Windows 11, which is caused by a flaw in that. And another Dev has also alerted me, to weaknesses within Renpy itself, which can sometimes cause serious issues with old saves. So there may be factors that are totally beyond the Devs control?

One thing is for sure. There is no easy solution to this issue. If we eventually get a third chapter of this game, perhaps they'll completely remove the phone, and that will solve this issue for a lot of people? But until then, the VN version appears to be the only workable alternative.

As I said, this doesn't affect everybody. Some people can use their old saves on the sandbox version, without getting any exceptions and for many more it's corrected if they restart the game or only use the saves provided by the Devs. But restarting every single update is a pain in the ass, as is not being able to follow the path through the game, that you'd like. That's why I'm currently forced to play the VN version.

To be honest, at this stage with all the issues they have with the sandbox version. I would just add the glossary in a dropdown menu to the VN version, and dispense with the sandbox completely. That would surely make the Devs lives a lot easier, and remove a lot of the current confusion and frustration, that every new update seems to currently cause. Adding the sandbox to renpy seemed good in theory initially, but it just hasn't worked very effectively.
 
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I tried unlocking the final scene in the gallery but can't and the gallery unlocker doesn't work does anybody have a way of unlocking that scene
 
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I'm the same, I can't play the sandbox version whatever I do. It seems to be connected to the phone function, which is probably why they can't do anything to permanently correct it. Because the only longterm solution is probably to remove the phone completely, which would mean revamping the whole of Chapter 2. Some people also appear to have compatibility issues with Windows 11, which is caused by a flaw in that. And another Dev has also alerted me, to weaknesses within Renpy itself, which can sometimes cause serious issues with old saves. So there may be factors that are totally beyond the Devs control?

One thing is for sure. There is no easy solution to this issue. If we eventually get a third chapter of this game, perhaps they'll completely remove the phone, and that will solve this issue for a lot of people? But until then, the VN version appears to be the only workable alternative.

As I said, this doesn't affect everybody. Some people can use their old saves on the sandbox version, without getting any exceptions and for many more it's corrected if they restart the game or only use the saves provided by the Devs. But restarting every single update is a pain in the ass, as is not being able to follow the path through the game, that you'd like. That's why I'm currently forced to play the VN version.
Well that's super informative. I'm gonna need you on Deeps discord if your not on there. Would have saved me from going off on him. Would you mind if I quoted this on their so its properly address to anyone who may be as frustrated as I was with it? Also its a shame about the phone, I liked the idea of the dirty pictures being taken of Anna (when she had Timothy take her picture in the cafe bathroom). Also I liked the photo hunt. I just wish that there was a storyline added to it like her photo's got leaked around the city and it was a much bigger deal. Anyways, it makes sense why these functions were never used again if the phone is the thing causing issues within the game.
 

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Why are people complaining about the bar scene? And complaining that she's too easy?? The whole point of this game is making Anna into a bigger whore. Her character will progress until she fucks everyone without guilt and enjoys being a slut. You can't expect resistance from her anymore, current Anna is not the same person as Anna in early part 1, she is a sluttier than ever.

I like the fact Anna is fucking random men and even a homeless guy. I want her to get more slutty and increase her body count.
i'm not on chapter 2 still playing chapter 1. But if im being honest i'm starting to dislike the bar stuff in chapter 1 as it feeling like I have less and less choice in how Anna acts every once in awhile not everytime. It's fine for my pure slut saves, but for my main save where I want to do decision base on how I feel in certain situations I do dislike it . Now I get alot of it is out of fear and how she doesn't want to quit right away after stealing the documents.

But there are time where Anna can show some backbone to Patrick and say no but then later ignores things she said it feels like and just does what he said. Tho that could be cause im playing Renpy version , only playing it over the RPGM as I have a few different saves going on. At the part of the game im at it's starting to feel like Anna needs to find a way to quit soon tho I know she wont as it isn't that kind of game and she is just gonna forget it was only meant to be for a few more weeks haha.

still enjoyable for what it is but I do see the bar stuff being the worst aspect of the game at least so far in Ch 1.
 
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i'm not on chapter 2 still playing chapter 1. But if im being honest i'm starting to dislike the bar stuff in chapter 1 as it feeling like I have less and less choice in how Anna acts every once in awhile not everytime. It's fine for my pure slut saves, but for my main save where I want to do decision base on how I feel in certain situations I do dislike it . Now I get alot of it is out of fear and how she doesn't want to quit right away after stealing the documents.

But there are time where Anna can show some backbone to Patrick and say no but then later ignores things she said it feels like and just does what he said. Tho that could be cause im playing Renpy version , only playing it over the RPGM as I have a few different saves going on. At the part of the game im at it's starting to feel like Anna needs to find a way to quit soon tho I know she wont as it isn't that kind of game and she is just gonna forget it was only meant to be for a few more weeks haha.

still enjoyable for what it is but I do see the bar stuff being the worst aspect of the game at least so far in Ch 1.
I agree with you about having choices. To me that is the most important thing but the game is great otherwise.
 

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i'm not on chapter 2 still playing chapter 1. But if im being honest i'm starting to dislike the bar stuff in chapter 1 as it feeling like I have less and less choice in how Anna acts every once in awhile not everytime. It's fine for my pure slut saves, but for my main save where I want to do decision base on how I feel in certain situations I do dislike it . Now I get alot of it is out of fear and how she doesn't want to quit right away after stealing the documents.

But there are time where Anna can show some backbone to Patrick and say no but then later ignores things she said it feels like and just does what he said. Tho that could be cause im playing Renpy version , only playing it over the RPGM as I have a few different saves going on. At the part of the game im at it's starting to feel like Anna needs to find a way to quit soon tho I know she wont as it isn't that kind of game and she is just gonna forget it was only meant to be for a few more weeks haha.

still enjoyable for what it is but I do see the bar stuff being the worst aspect of the game at least so far in Ch 1.
The Bar content in Chapter 1, is leading to two diametrically opposed routes in Chapter 2, so perhaps it's not surprising that Anna often acts in a confusing and contradictory way, and is a reflection of the feelings she's experiencing when Patrick blackmails her into whoring herself. On the one hand she hates him, for making her do such humiliating things, but on the other she secretly gets pleasure from it and even starts to enjoy it. Normally, Anna would show backbone, and find some way to avoid what Patrick is doing to her. But her 'condition' is making her progressively weaker and more willing to give in to corruptive influences. And the further she goes, the harder it is for her to resist. That's the dilemma you will be asked to address at the start of Chapter 2. Give in to Patrick completely and become his whore, or resist him and take a different path entirely in the Bar.
 

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Unfinished storylines.
Perhaps the continuation of these events will happen on the weekend. Part 17 of the game showed the events that took place on Friday.

- In Part 13, the Taxman told the restaurant director that he would meet him and Anna again in the next couple of days. This has not happened yet. Maybe this will happen on the weekend?
- John has already wanted to talk to Anna twice about her strange adventures and outfits. This has not happened yet. In Part 17, during a family dinner, John notices that he and Anna have not had sex for a long time. Maybe they will talk after sex?
- In Parts 13 and 16, Benjamin invites Anna to visit, she agrees. This has not happened yet.
- In Part 14, Anna comes to Mr. Burnsfield and pleases his guest. Mr. Burnsfield says that he is not against continuing the meetings. This has not happened yet.
- In Part 14, it says that to celebrate the company's successful work, there will be a corporate party in the office. Maybe it will happen on the weekend?
- Lenny, the winner of the cam show - nothing has been heard from him since Version 12. Maybe they will meet on the weekend?
- Alfred invited Anna to visit him after the fashion show. In Part 8, he invited her to a restaurant. In Part 13, Anna came to buy a dress - there was no intimacy, but she promised to meet him. So far, this has not happened.
- In Part 15, Anna meets Jeff in the park - he invites her to go out of town, to the mountains. Anna accepted the invitation. Maybe it will happen on the weekend?
- In Part 16, Ashley notices Anna at a cosplay party. After what happened, he simply has to meet her, especially since Andrew doesn't know anything.
- Oh, I almost forgot, Patrick is expecting Emily to visit his bar again tomorrow. In the part where Patrick is not present, Anna also talks to Emily about coming tomorrow.
-The Taxman is an occasional character. It's possible the next scene with him could occur this weekend, but I think it's too soon after the last one. It's much more likely to be later next week.
- John lives with her and Andrew, so that's entirely possible. I think we'll definitely get more content with John sometime during the next few days. Bear in mind though, that the Devs don't always include all the content that they sometimes suggest during the game.
- I'm pretty certain most of the content with Mr Burnsfield, will happen Monday-Friday. If something was going to happen this weekend, it would already have been flagged. We will get more content with him next week though. I think that's pretty certain.
- the corporate party could happen, but it wasn't specifically stated that it would be this weekend, so maybe...maybe not. If it does, it's possible Mr Burnsfield could turn up here, and something might happen between him and Anna? But I can't help feeling we'll get some kind of continuation of the events that took place in the last one? In other words more Emily and Brandon, Anna, Madison and Diane having more lesbian fun on the dead Jeremy route, and Jeremy and Diane having BDSM fun with Anna on the Jeremy alive route?
-I have a suspicion, that Anna and Alfred will go on a trip out of town at some point, to try to meet his daughter. Which will mean them staying overnight at a hotel. And that's maybe when they'll go out to dinner together? That's just a complete guess, so don't quote me on that.
- Anna is almost certain to have this date with Jeff over the weekend.
- Ashley appears to have been demoted to a secondary character. Unfortunately, the inevitable consequence of introducing new characters. By rights he should have had a sex scene with Anna already. The fact that he hasn't suggests he's been relegated to merely being Andrew's friend. I just don't see him playing a big role in this game anymore. Deep said over a year ago, when I asked him, that Ashley would probably get a sex scene shortly. But it's not materialised. But maybe it will be like the Taxman, where we had to wait for years, for Anna to finally go on that date with him?
-This has already happened. A week later than initially suggested, but they got there in the end.

I think something will happen with Benjamin over this weekend, not sure what, but I can see him getting some content? Probably more content in the criminal storyline as well?
 
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The bar scene in my opinion is difficult to interpret. On the one hand, I also think Anna has become too easy by now, but on the other hand, it is also true that the arc of the bar has now been in development for years and has seen gradual corruption
I think the underlying problem is not so much the new characters or the new story arcs but the dynamics themselves. Everything goes the same way now. Every time.
If you take the bar as an example, I think it has been since Patrick “sold” Anna in the bathroom that the story has become stagnant. Same people and same dynamics.
One story arc that is following the same path is in adult films. Too predictable and predictable despite the scenes being very well done.
Benjamin's story arc, on the other hand, again in my opinion, is currently among my favorites. It paved the way for new paths and still has that bit of mystery that intrigues. In the last scene where Anna “agrees” with the two homeless men, there were other hidden observers and that honestly intrigues me.
There are certainly other examples but again, in my opinion it's the dynamics that tire in the long run.
It's really a question of what you want to happen? For a lot of people Anna predictably falling into depravity, is the payoff they desire. Now you may not want that, but a lot of people do. And it's been extremely obvious for a long time, that that's where we've been headed. So I don't understand why people are suddenly acting like this wasn't always going to happen, particularly if they subsequently chose for Patrick to stay alive.

When Anna chose not to accept Jim's offer, she was choosing to become Patrick's whore. Jim told her things would get progressively worse for her, if she didn't agree to his plan. So if she doesn't, it's because deep down she's started to enjoy it all too much, and this is an easy way for her to give in to her dark side. And that very first night, as Basher is fucking her on the bar counter, she pretty much acknowledges to herself how much she loves being used like that. So if 'everything goes the same way now', it's because that's what she wants and what you and her have chosen to happen.
 

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It's really a question of what you want to happen? For a lot of people Anna predictably falling into depravity, is the payoff they desire. Now you may not want that, but a lot of people do. And it's been extremely obvious for a long time, that that's where we've been headed. So I don't understand why people are suddenly acting like this wasn't always going to happen, particularly if they subsequently chose for Patrick to stay alive.

When Anna chose not to accept Jim's offer, she was choosing to become Patrick's whore. Jim told her things would get progressively worse for her, if she didn't agree to his plan. So if she doesn't, it's because deep down she's started to enjoy it all too much, and this is an easy way for her to give in to her dark side. And that very first night, as Basher is fucking her on the bar counter, she pretty much acknowledges to herself how much she loves being used like that. So if 'everything goes the same way now', it's because that's what she wants and what you and her have chosen to happen.
thanks for this post and your earlier reply as I haven't gotten to this part yet but it does ease my mind on the Bar stuff. Was afraid was gonna be stuck with Patrick no matter what , while no issue for my other saves just was starting to get to the point I dislike the bar stuff on my main save, even tho I still looked forward to those storylines the most. Since I like Jim and David they aren't your typical scumbag's you see from alot of the other men in these type of games. Instead they are just horny and pervy to a point but also stand up guys that want to look out for and help Anna.
 

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thanks for this post and your earlier reply as I haven't gotten to this part yet but it does ease my mind on the Bar stuff. Was afraid was gonna be stuck with Patrick no matter what , while no issue for my other saves just was starting to get to the point I dislike the bar stuff on my main save, even tho I still looked forward to those storylines the most. Since I like Jim and David they aren't your typical scumbag's you see from alot of the other men in these type of games. Instead they are just horny and pervy to a point but also stand up guys that want to look out for and help Anna.
The original plan was for Anna to stay and become a Bar whore or leave the Bar completely after Chapter 1. And there is actually a choice suggesting that towards the end of Chapter 1. But between then and the first Bar scene in Chapter 2, the Devs decided to follow a different path where Anna and Jim oust Patrick and take over. And we find out, there's a lot more to Jim than meets the eye.
 
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Quick question starting Ch 2 the main menu shows EP 16 , while the thread , the file I downloaded and the game directory I exacted to my PC show EP 17.

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Playing the VN version. just wanted to make sure I am playing the correct version. or at least can someone put in spoilers how the last update ends so when I do finish I can double check I played the right version
 

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Quick question starting Ch 2 the main menu shows EP 16 , while the thread , the file I downloaded and the game directory I exacted to my PC show EP 17.

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Playing the VN version. just wanted to make sure I am playing the correct version. or at least can someone put in spoilers how the last update ends so when I do finish I can double check I played the right version
You playing correct version EP17
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First, why are you shouting??? Second, since when has the game had weekly updates. I haven't played this in a couple of months but I've never known this game to have weekly updates and I try to keep up with it through this thread.
 

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First, why are you shouting??? Second, since when has the game had weekly updates. I haven't played this in a couple of months but I've never known this game to have weekly updates and I try to keep up with it through this thread.
WHY NO WEEKLY UPDATE BY NOW?

ITS BEEN 3 WEEKS SINCE UPDATE IS RELEASED!
yeah ive yet to finish playing my first PT only Ch 2 now but even being new to this game I highly doubt weekly updates was a thing. Looking at the patron quickly there wasn't even monthly updates for the last 3 or so updates. Looks like every 2-4 months
 
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