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Add a scene with Alfred or we'll boycott.
Hey, mate, you are clearly Russian and I had a question few posts back: is term "pahan" still active and could it be applied to Sergey. I understand that the term used to denote leader of a criminal gang in Russia, while outside of Russia it was used to describe Gulag inmate who is career criminal as opposed to political prisoners. So, is Sergey a pahan?
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Да, Сергея можно назвать паханом. Откуда ты знаешь это слово?
Yes, Sergey can be called "pahan".
Where did you hear this word?
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A "pahan" is a person who observes order in a cell or in a certain part of a prison or the leader of a criminal group; old thief with authority. Prisoner Thieves Jargon
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now if it were still realized in the game, it would be cool
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According to the code of thieves, the godfather had an independent status in the world of thieves, until a certain time was quite vague, varying in its significance. Thieves concepts imply a clear differentiation in this sense, relating to tillage and thieves in the law, from which it follows that those and others are not one and the same thing.He is Russian Hacker! Scare!
What was said about it at the dawn of the emergence of the code of thieves
According to the departmental dictionary of the NKVD ("not subject to disclosure") "Dictionary of the jargon of criminals (" criminal music "), compiled by the Russian (and Soviet) criminologist Sergei Potapov (1925)," godfather is the master; father, head of the criminal investigation; husband, the owner of the brothel.
This dictionary gives a fairly general (from the point of view of the code of thieves, it is unacceptable to generalize) the characteristic of criminal authority: thieves in the classification of their "element" never mix "cops" and "correct" kents. It is noteworthy that in this, by the way, quite detailed, the dictionary of "thieves' music" does not mention such a term as "thief in law", although about every "rag-tag" is written in detail, down to the smallest details. This can only mean one thing: in 1925 there was still no such status of thieves in the USSR.
How did the godfathers
Judging by the study of the Ukrainian journalist and publicist Alexander Kuchinsky (hacked to death with an ax with his wife in 2014; the culprit was found, the murder was committed with the purpose of robbery), the results of which he cites in his book Criminals and Crimes. The laws of the underworld. Plowmen, authorities, thieves in law ", until the beginning of the twentieth century, the criminal hierarchy of the Russian thieves' world was not yet formed - its differentiation began, in essence, only with the assertion of Soviet power. Kuchinsky, understanding the thieves' hierarchy of Soviet times, wrote over a dozen books.
According to Kuchinsky, the thieves in the law in the customary modern sense are the product of the 30s of the 20th century, the Stalinist GULAG - this is where the thieves' law originated, and the ancestors of the "law-makers" are exactly godfathers. According to the classification given in the book of Kuchinsky, the camp hierarchy in the gulag began with tillage. Only in the conditions of the camp plowers could ignore work orders, the camp authorities were considered with them, since they "kept the zone". The plowmen repaired the “analyzes”, eliminating lawlessness on the “jurisdictional” territory, at the same time strengthening their influence in the places of detention, collecting tribute from the newly arrived convicts.
The leaders of thieves
The self-organization of the new community called “thieves in law”, according to most researchers of this topic, occurred precisely in the late 20s - early 30s of the XX century. Candidate of Economic Sciences of the Law Institute of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia Yuri Latov, relying on archival data, wrote that thieves in law are tillers of thieves, who at some time adopted a peculiar "thieves 'code of honor" (thieves' law).
There is not a single reliable source that would state with all certainty when exactly and where this fundamentally important transformation took place. However, the semantic “watershed” between tillage and thieves in law can be temporarily carried out, starting from the beginning of the Great Patriotic War - it was the Second World War that divided the “lawyers” into “correct” (who did not cooperate with the authorities) and the thieves in law who agreed to fight on the fronts of that war and then for committing crimes again in the Soviet camps. This dilemma at the end of the 40s gave rise to the so-called “boughs of war”, described in the works of Varlaam Shalamov and Alexander Solzhenitsyn - world-famous Russian writers, prisoners of the Gulag, who witnessed these phenomena.
One of the principal points of the secret code of thieves says: no contact with the official authorities (military service is also prohibited). "Lost" thieves fought, which initially denied the code of thieves.
According to the notions of thieves, it was precisely from the 40s of the twentieth century that the Russian criminal world came up with the notion of “godfather” - it was replaced by “the thief in law”: these authorities in this environment became dominant, guided by conventions - “lawyer” was not supposed to work (including, and in MLS); his task is to look after the criminals in the "jurisdictional" territory; the thief in the law does not directly participate in the commission of crimes, but lives at the expense of the proceeds from them, or at the expense of the common fund. Thieves in the law had other restrictions - for example, they should not have families.
In tillage plowers such strict subordination, regulated by generally accepted rules in this environment, did not initially exist, it appeared only with the introduction of the “institution” of thieves in the law, which is still formally in effect.
Nikolay Syromyatnikov
I am glad the term survived. It has been used in literature outside Russia during Soviet days. Also, I remember and old Russian tv show: WW II veterans are now police and deal with thugs in Moscow or somewhere. Thanks for the info.
Thank you for your article. Quite a bit off the main topic (Anna!), but I enjoyed it nevertheless.
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An update is a must or atleast a spoiler of Alfred preparing a gangbang for Anna .
))))That character is Valueless
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