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Rutonat

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I'd say some of you also are looking at Nea's path the wrong way.
It's not only about Nea's growth, but also the MC's. Need I remind you that he still has a hard time not thinking "dude" when remembering what's between Nea's legs ? The guy still needs to come to term with the fact that genitalia and how Nea feels about her gender aren't as linking as society taught him it was.
I'd say Nea's route is as much about her character development as it is the MC's.


And for anyone who hates Nea's route : just ignore her instead of trashing the whole route. Because right now, a lot of the comments I've seen about that looks like you're trying to see if enough hate will push Luxee to remove Nea from the game.
Just focus on the parts of t he game you like, ignore the ones you don't, and let other people enjoy it. It's existence isn't an attack on your sexuality.
 

JoeTheMC84

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I'd say some of you also are looking at Nea's path the wrong way.
It's not only about Nea's growth, but also the MC's. Need I remind you that he still has a hard time not thinking "dude" when remembering what's between Nea's legs ? The guy still needs to come to term with the fact that genitalia and how Nea feels about her gender aren't as linking as society taught him it was.
I'd say Nea's route is as much about her character development as it is the MC's.


And for anyone who hates Nea's route : just ignore her instead of trashing the whole route. Because right now, a lot of the comments I've seen about that looks like you're trying to see if enough hate will push Luxee to remove Nea from the game.
Just focus on the parts of t he game you like, ignore the ones you don't, and let other people enjoy it. It's existence isn't an attack on your sexuality.
I wouldn't read so much into other's motives, because I think part of the issue some people have is that it seemed early on like there were three options with Nea; Romance, Ignore, or Just Friends. But it turns out there's really only two, Romance and Ignore. I think some people wanted to be friendly with Nea but not romantic and had a false expectation (not saying who is to blame for that it just happened I think) and so they got disappointed. Now, maybe there could be a little more clarity earlier on or something that there's really only two routes for Nea but that is neither here nor there. I like the Nea stuff and I usually dislike trans content, but I felt it well done here so I'm romancing Nea, but I can also understand people who went into Nea's route thinking they could just be friends and now are upset that the option they thought was there wasn't.
 

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And for anyone who hates Nea's route : just ignore her instead of trashing the whole route. Because right now, a lot of the comments I've seen about that looks like you're trying to see if enough hate will push Luxee to remove Nea from the game.
Really? Seems to me more like most people are disappointed that she is 'removed' from the game if the player isn't into her.
 
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Mathesar

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I wouldn't read so much into other's motives, because I think part of the issue some people have is that it seemed early on like there were three options with Nea; Romance, Ignore, or Just Friends. But it turns out there's really only two, Romance and Ignore. I think some people wanted to be friendly with Nea but not romantic and had a false expectation (not saying who is to blame for that it just happened I think) and so they got disappointed. Now, maybe there could be a little more clarity earlier on or something that there's really only two routes for Nea but that is neither here nor there. I like the Nea stuff and I usually dislike trans content, but I felt it well done here so I'm romancing Nea, but I can also understand people who went into Nea's route thinking they could just be friends and now are upset that the option they thought was there wasn't.
Going from the friends route to the ignoring route also results in an incredibly abrupt suicide. I like Nea, she's great, but I'm not sexually attracted to penises. Now, if there was a route where I could help her find a boyfriend, that's something I'd be interested in.
 

mightybored

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Helping Nea hook up with someone would be a decent route for 'friends with Nea', but that's probably too much divergence (and therefore work) on a path that not everyone will see.
 

Canto Forte

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MC makes them panties drop. It is a treat he has, the looks, the attitude, the macho, the hero.
Some guys are like that especially in a gathering of many young adults with little social life.
Nea has no social life. She falls hard for her savior - talk about channeling Lois Lane and Supe”s relationship.
This is what it takes to make her believe in herself, when MC is this hunk of a man making panties drop.
Would anyone believe stars like leo di caprio and brad pitt had roles and babes falling into their lap,
just for being a young fit guy with much publicity? ”Cause MC beating the bully gets him star fandom.
This is the game where rob lowe gets all the babes, before he learns what to do with them.
Just let it happen. You do not loose anything, this is a fantasy with tropes and exaggerated plot.
I'd say some of you also are looking at Nea's path the wrong way.
It's not only about Nea's growth, but also the MC's. Need I remind you that he still has a hard time not thinking "dude" when remembering what's between Nea's legs ? The guy still needs to come to term with the fact that genitalia and how Nea feels about her gender aren't as linking as society taught him it was.
I'd say Nea's route is as much about her character development as it is the MC's.


And for anyone who hates Nea's route : just ignore her instead of trashing the whole route. Because right now, a lot of the comments I've seen about that looks like you're trying to see if enough hate will push Luxee to remove Nea from the game.
Just focus on the parts of t he game you like, ignore the ones you don't, and let other people enjoy it. It's existence isn't an attack on your sexuality.
I wouldn't read so much into other's motives, because I think part of the issue some people have is that it seemed early on like there were three options with Nea; Romance, Ignore, or Just Friends. But it turns out there's really only two, Romance and Ignore. I think some people wanted to be friendly with Nea but not romantic and had a false expectation (not saying who is to blame for that it just happened I think) and so they got disappointed. Now, maybe there could be a little more clarity earlier on or something that there's really only two routes for Nea but that is neither here nor there. I like the Nea stuff and I usually dislike trans content, but I felt it well done here so I'm romancing Nea, but I can also understand people who went into Nea's route thinking they could just be friends and now are upset that the option they thought was there wasn't.
Really? Seems to me more like most people are disappointed that she is 'removed' from the game if the player isn't into her.
Going from the friends route to the ignoring route also results in an incredibly abrupt suicide. I like Nea, she's great, but I'm not sexually attracted to penises. Now, if there was a route where I could help her find a boyfriend, that's something I'd be interested in.
MC is not a +1, nor a blabber mouth, nor a bff kind a pal. He loves girls and they love him. Win+win!
 

Kionashi

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Well, I made her jump off the roof and that's how she's going to stay in my game.
Honestly, if I had to choose between prolonging the friendship with sexual events happening in between and Nea jumping off the roof. The roof wins.
Well, in my game Nea has jumped, and she will stay that way unless there is a sexless friendship route.
Personally, I agree as long as the development of the relationship doesn't force a romance between Nea and the MC. As this doesn't seem to be the case, in my game Nea has been squashed on the ground. Maybe it's not the ideal ending, but the truth is that I'm not going to play a path that I don't like to keep a fictional character "alive".
Yes....we know...
 
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what?...if you think the relationship has "nowhere to go" after the initial confession I would think you watch way too much anime...they can develop more the relationship, In fact, we could argue that Nea just reached the position where Charelle is now as an "official gf" and there is a lot of ground to move from there as they grow closer
If I wanted to see a man having sex with his girlfriend I wouldn't play harem incest VN's. That's as vanilla as you can get.
 

Kionashi

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If I wanted to see a man having sex with his girlfriend I wouldn't play harem incest VN's. That's as vanilla as you can get.
There is a lot of kinky stuff you can do in a monogamous relationship with one GF....of course this game still has tons of incest and so far there are no consequences for fooling around with everybody so is not like it matters...
 
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exazubi

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I like the game. The individual stories are well written, there are many LI, where there really is something for every taste.

However, the game has huge deficits in the user interface and thus the atmosphere. All the places are not even really well lit, NPCs, if they exist at all, are only shown as shadows or ghosts. The background music is almost always the same, and it's downright melachloic at that. You can't really do anything anywhere unless there's an event happening somewhere. You can't take someone out on a date, you can't take jobs and make money. There is not even an opportunity to spend it. I feel like I'm in Stephen King's Langoliers throughout the game. Of course, the game needs more content and has to go further. I'm not worried at all, it'll be fine. But I can only recommend the developer to invest time and heart and soul in bringing out a technical update and breathing atmosphere and life into the game urgently.
 

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I like the game. The individual stories are well written, there are many LI, where there really is something for every taste.

However, the game has huge deficits in the user interface and thus the atmosphere. All the places are not even really well lit, NPCs, if they exist at all, are only shown as shadows or ghosts. The background music is almost always the same, and it's downright melachloic at that. You can't really do anything anywhere unless there's an event happening somewhere. You can't take someone out on a date, you can't take jobs and make money. There is not even an opportunity to spend it. I feel like I'm in Stephen King's Langoliers throughout the game. Of course, the game needs more content and has to go further. I'm not worried at all, it'll be fine. But I can only recommend the developer to invest time and heart and soul in bringing out a technical update and breathing atmosphere and life into the game urgently.
The reference to the Langoliers pretty much nails my feeling about the atmosphere of the interface. It's like you slipped into another reality where there's no people except for some events that trigger occasionally to bring back fragments of the real world. I realize the shadowy people are there to save on rendering time, but it's creepy, kind of like a horror movie. As I move around the world, I'm half expecting a battle to start as I move to a new location and the shadow people to attack in a jrpg style battle. I applaud Luxee for trying something new with this game, but I think they should have stayed with the branching visual novel style of Parental Love. Without knowing better, I'd assume A69 was the earlier effort and PL was the game made after they had more experience.
 
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Moonis

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Yeah, I never understood the reason why this was sandboxed. That decision has given nothing positive to the game. It needs extra work to code it and it slows playing down, forcing player to look for the content, instead of just submerging into it and enjoying the flow. At early stages it also shows lack of content drastically, when every location you travel are empty after one or two encounters.
 

Alanray64

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Hey all. little confused with the game progress here. I have played to a point that nothing further develops that I can see. The girl face icons on the right all have a X through them and after cycling through the days in every possible location, the game doesnt progress. I didnt see any message saying I reached the end of content so wondering where I went wrong.
Thanks in advance.
 
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If they have a X through their name then they have no more content you can also click on the characters tab and if you click on a character it should say no new scenes.
 

Alanray64

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If they have a X through their name then they have no more content you can also click on the characters tab and if you click on a character it should say no new scenes.
Ah ok so judging by the "no new scenes" I see everywhere then I am up to date till the next update.

Much thanks
 

YogSothoth1982

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I like the game. The individual stories are well written, there are many LI, where there really is something for every taste.
Except for Alicia and Nea, I like all the LIs. Nea's story is quite well done, but the romance part doesn't interest me (so yes, I prefer the second option, without romance, despite the consequences). Alicia seems like an LI to me that has been included to have sex scenes in the early stages of the game.

However, the game has huge deficits in the user interface and thus the atmosphere. All the places are not even really well lit, NPCs, if they exist at all, are only shown as shadows or ghosts. The background music is almost always the same, and it's downright melachloic at that. You can't really do anything anywhere unless there's an event happening somewhere. You can't take someone out on a date, you can't take jobs and make money. There is not even an opportunity to spend it. I feel like I'm in Stephen King's Langoliers throughout the game. Of course, the game needs more content and has to go further. I'm not worried at all, it'll be fine. But I can only recommend the developer to invest time and heart and soul in bringing out a technical update and breathing atmosphere and life into the game urgently.
I suppose that the structure of the game, based on punctual memories with the LIs, is what leads to what you indicate happening. Possibly not the system that I would have used, I certainly prefer the one you expose. But I don't see this bad either, at least it doesn't have grinding.
 
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My feable attempt at learning Ren'py and creating a somewhat alternate Nea storyline.
Thanks in advance to Luxee, whose art I 'borrowed' to make this (hope you don't mind -
- I either don't posess the talent, or patience, or both to create my own, so I used Luxee's creations)
zip files too big to attach here, below are links to my google drive if you don't mind ignoring the
can't scan for virus warnings to download and check out.

PC:
Mac:

thumb1.jpg thumb2.jpg
 
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YogSothoth1982

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I guess everyone has their tastes. I would not like that situation with Nea, but a similar approach with other LI (maybe one of the sisters) could be interesting.
 

Rutonat

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I guess everyone has their tastes. I would not like that situation with Nea, but a similar approach with other LI (maybe one of the sisters) could be interesting.
Well, the thing is, if too many characters had the same overall script structure, the game would become stale pretty easily. Having to deal with various flips and hurdles depending on the character is what give spice to the whole thing.

Now, I get that some people would like to keep Nea's story going without having to go into romance. Some people can't really dissociate genetalia from gender. That's still pretty new as a concept for most people.
But, if you think about it objectively, it actually makes a lot of sense, logically speaking, with the character.
"Noah" wasn't feeling at ease in his own skin as male. A lot of trans people start of like that. And despite not being really educated on the subject, I imagine that that type of... Body dysmorphia I guess, can most likely be quite a bitch on the person's psychee and mental health.
Add to that the fact his dad seems to be the pinacle of the anti-gay dumbass who'd claim loud and proud that "this is not how God intended it", and you can easily imagine how deciding to transition would be an extremely stressful, and most likely terrifying when it comes to the ambiance at home, thing to go through.
And not, to top it off, there's all the bullshit at school. The mocking, the bullying, the people making sure to keep stoking that flame for as long as they can...
Honestly, strickly logically speaking, I think a lot of people going through all that would probably take the jump way earlier than Nea's route shows.

Now, as to why it's not that surprising for the scenario to go down that route. It's actually pretty simple.
Nea has no hope. She just goes through the motions, let her shitty life carry her by just surviving, scraping by, mentaly speaking. And then, a good looking guy comes along, who not only defends her, but also doesn't question her gender. He's talking about her as a girl, he's accepting who she is and wants to be, he defends her against the assholes that made her life a living hell.
No surprise that she'd fall in love. That's pretty much the first person to care about her, apparently. At least, to involve themselves as much as the MC does.

Now, imagine how much hope that'd give someone in her situation. The guy's not only pretty much the definition of a white knight, but he stays involved, supportive, caring and nice. And most of all for a heterosexual trans girl, he's open-minded.
Nea doesn't think of herself as a dude, she sees herself as female, despite her genitalia at that point. A girl that's fallen in love with the first guy ever to see something else in her than a freak.
But then, after all that hope, all that happiness, what do you think would happen, mentally and psychologically speaking, when that guy rejects her feelings ? With all the background of rejection of what she IS at her core ? It's pretty obvious that's devastating, and not surprising in the least that it pushes her to such actions. She's highly emotional after being so deprived of support and caring, and the person to finally give her that rejecting her love, the feeling of rejection that ensues just gets extremely magnified by her past.

As much as this is a smut game, it's also extremely well written at times. Sure, some part are just in a more "heh fuck it it's for porn", but a lot of the older characters actually have extremely well thought-out personalities. And, in my opinion, Nea's probably the deepest one so far. It might not seem like it when you don't care to think about it, but the depth in the psychology in her route is actualyl really impressive. Not only that, but it's also taken, I think, fairly realisticly as well. Way to many games take the easi road of "yeah trans girl is a slut".
This dev didn't. They chose to be more logical and realistic.


And come on, their romance is cute as fuck.
 
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