- The little daughter in Parental Love (Ada was it?) looks in her teens. Obviously underage, but with quite a developed body. Eve in turn looks much younger to me (12, 13 tops), and additionally her dialogues make her come across as an even younger child. I often work with teens aged from 12 to 18 and I know very well how they look and express themselves. In my opinion, the incest patch should offer the option to restore incest with the rest of the family but avoid any content with Eve. As it is designed now, if you want the former you'll have to go along with the latter whether or not you like that content.
I find this character similar to Ada from PL in terms of age and appearance, so it's just Luxee's typical, younger character tossed in, as I see it.
There's a patch which enables the path for access to incest theme and sex with both sisters, so you don't have to play her content, certainly. You miss out on incest content overall, but that's why I offered another point to consider: we don't know if there will be paths/options as this very early pilot is taken up and turned into a full-on game.
I should have clarified that the Dev's work on Parental Love included the ability of a patch to enable inter-family relations, yet the game also enabled the MC to make choices which avoided sexual paths or commitments with specific characters.
Since we've seen this Dev easily offer the ability to provide more granular choices for interplay of the MC with other characters, perhaps that will happen again - I wouldn't discount it quite so early and feel this game could offer a reconsideration as it ramps up.
- Considering my initial post, I don't understand how this second argument of yours has any relevance. My point wasn't whether that choice makes the MC a homophobe or a transphobe. Terminological discussions aside, my point is that the game seems to push you to either be a fucking asshole and reject Nea as a person, or get into a path in which apparently you'll have her as a LI. I don't like trans sexual content but I don't have any problem to treat Nea with dignity and keep her as a good friend.
Considering that you led with "transphobic" when the behavior was clearly "homophobic," it led me to wonder how fine-grained your reaction happened to be: was it a macro-level recoil to a general concept around this relationship in the game, or perhaps to the type of character Nea might be or was there some heretofore unclear and implied reason you didn't like the choice? I wouldn't know - I don't know you.
Hence, my simple reaction to clarify the terminology issue and further note the MC's coincidental strange muddling of trans respect and homophobic disgust (which could have been a typo).
Yes, I understood your point about the ON/OFF aspect of that choice - I felt it was obvious that the Dev threw that in to this early pilot for players who - for whatever reason(s) - want to avoid further trans-related content. Some of whom are quite vocal about this preference (or lack of), and we've already seen examples of such posted in this topic. The Dev's binary choice seemed a quick switch to make this pilot episode more palatable to a wider audience, IMHO.
- Taking statements out of context is a kind of manipulation. Your quotation makes it look as if I meant that being trans is shameful. You know very well that's not what I meant. What I meant is that, myself being a person who doesn't like trans sexual content, I liked Nea's character so much that for me it's a pity/shame I can't pursue her as a cisgender woman. I would have said the same (and indeed I have in other threads) if she had gigantic boobs or some other features I don't find attractive.
Perhaps consider that if someone types:
I think the point here is supposed to be self-evident, but it's not to me
then that means they did
not "know very well" what you intended to convey.
I provided one direct reaction to your words:
I don't understand why being trans is "a shame."
And, until you posted later,
I don't like trans sexual content
it remained unclear to me what you were trying to convey.
- This last paragraph just boggles my mind. Firstly, because I obviously have to express my opinion based on what we have now, not on what we'll presumably have in one year's time. Secondly, because the two issues I addressed in my first post weren't conceptual at all but really clear choices made by the dev that are very unlikely to change in future versions of the game. I mean, Eve looking really young and Nea being trans are not aspects of the game that will evolve in the future, are they? If they do, I'll have no problem to come back to this game and enjoy it this time.
I addressed my reason for offering that observation above, because it provides context for other thoughts I bulleted.
Still, my point was simple: the Dev implied this is currently a pilot for a free-range gaming idea with related mechanics, so I don't know if we can assume that what has been offered thus far is the final set of choices to expect.
Conversely, we do know this is extremely early stages for A#69.
It may turn out that being friends with Nea offers the ability to decide later in the game as to whether you want to pursue sexual relations with them - we don't know and that's not made fully clear from the pilot. Although, one clue is that you were given the "Don't peek" option when Nea was changing in your apartment, so I'm thinking it's a good chance that sexual content with Nea will be optional if you become her friend.
Even so, there was no sexual contact with Nea in this pilot, as it is - merely some confused observations/feelings on the MC's part.
Sure, there's various possibilities afoot and the MC seeing Nea as unexpectedly attractive may be as much a statement on the fluidity of gender perception in different contexts than defining a mandated path towards sexual encounters in the game.
We don't know yet.
But, sure: if you don't enjoy the content as it's been shown thus far, then certainly your right to say it's not for your tastes in a game. Nobody is criticizing that right.
Anyway, it's plain to see that you liked this version while I didn't. You are free to voice your opinion as much as I am too.
I did it respectfully, don't try to ridicule my opinion just because it's not yours. Thanks.
I didn't ridicule your opinion, but felt it was tough to parse and that a larger context of the Dev's prior work and this being a pilot might ameliorate the reaction a bit. If I was intending to ridicule you, it would have been obvious.
I'm ignoring your "don't try" directive, btw - that's just silly.