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This is a great example of how we can all be into these games, but have such strongly different preferences. The ones listed with the best writing are all ones that I actually got really bored with and stopped playing, lol.

For me, character development and smart dialogue just aren't as important in a sex game. Its the plot, the situations that the characters are put in, the risque nature of the relationships between the characters, and then of course the graphics/pictures/videos on the screen that do it for me. I'm not looking for a lot of character development, romance or love. Sex between a married couple is just boring to me, most of the time. I'm looking for characters who wouldn't normally be in a sexual relationship to hook up and have hot sex, and for the fun of the game to be built around that.
 

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This is a great example of how we can all be into these games, but have such strongly different preferences. The ones listed with the best writing are all ones that I actually got really bored with and stopped playing, lol.

For me, character development and smart dialogue just aren't as important in a sex game. Its the plot, the situations that the characters are put in, the risque nature of the relationships between the characters, and then of course the graphics/pictures/videos on the screen that do it for me. I'm not looking for a lot of character development, romance or love. Sex between a married couple is just boring to me, most of the time. I'm looking for characters who wouldn't normally be in a sexual relationship to hook up and have hot sex, and for the fun of the game to be built around that.
Thats the entire point of this forum i believe. I as writer can enjoy games i like with the kink i like for reasons i like. You can do the same with a different point of view and reason. The next person can play them for some entirely different reason from yours and mine.

Lets hope this game will be pleasing for the both of us once it releases :)
 
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This is a great example of how we can all be into these games, but have such strongly different preferences. The ones listed with the best writing are all ones that I actually got really bored with and stopped playing, lol.

For me, character development and smart dialogue just aren't as important in a sex game. Its the plot, the situations that the characters are put in, the risque nature of the relationships between the characters, and then of course the graphics/pictures/videos on the screen that do it for me. I'm not looking for a lot of character development, romance or love. Sex between a married couple is just boring to me, most of the time. I'm looking for characters who wouldn't normally be in a sexual relationship to hook up and have hot sex, and for the fun of the game to be built around that.
Because "great writing" is not really that, other than Being a DIK that is fairly entertaining because its just a pretty normal story with silly humor and college dramas, all the other games are pretentious shit written by amateurs with an extremely low self awarenes on how terrible they are at writing.
 

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Because "great writing" is not really that, other than Being a DIK that is fairly entertaining because its just a pretty normal story with silly humor and college dramas, all the other games are pretentious shit written by amateurs with an extremely low self awarenes on how terrible they are at writing.
I actually don't like anything about Being a DIK other than the graphics, to be honest. I don't like the MC, most of the other characters are unappealing to me, and he's regularly put into situations that I find uncomfortable or unappealing. I gave up on it.
 

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Because "great writing" is not really that, other than Being a DIK that is fairly entertaining because its just a pretty normal story with silly humor and college dramas, all the other games are pretentious shit written by amateurs with an extremely low self awarenes on how terrible they are at writing.
And you can judge that why exactly?
Sure they are amateurs but if i pick 100 devs from this forum to write me one believable female character we will end up with 99 bimbos and just one being halfway decent. And the ones i named are at the very least compareable to fantasy novel writers you can find in almost every book store making a buck.
If you mean by pretentious shit compared to let's say "Goethe" than that would apply to 99% of what hollywood writes as well.

If we compare let's say "Dating my Daughter" against "Being a DIK" you can not honestly believe that they are equaly shit. Cause DmD is literally a blonde bimbo.

And once this game finally has a release i highly doubt the writing will be on equals with the renders or animatons. But if that is the case consider me surprised. My issue is not that most games have shitty writing but that we do not appreciate the devs who put some effort in their characters and their story despite them not knowing how to animate or make renders like lets say this game has or pretends to have. A good story can make up for alot of things. But good renders and shit stories won't save a game regardless how pretty they look.
 
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I JUST lost if the game is actually even half of what the images look like holy shit man I'm beyond impressed by these renders and graphics. If this game get's future pregnancy and/or harem update like his other previous game this would be a GOLD just like his previous game :HideThePain:. But I have faith in his work having played his other game wish the storyline continued :cry:
 
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And you can judge that why exactly?
Sure they are amateurs but if i pick 100 devs from this forum to write me one believable female character we will end up with 99 bimbos and just one being halfway decent. And the ones i named are at the very least compareable to fantasy novel writers you can find in almost every book store making a buck.
If you mean by pretentious shit compared to let's say "Goethe" than that would apply to 99% of what hollywood writes as well.

If we compare let's say "Dating my Daughter" against "Being a DIK" you can not honestly believe that they are equaly shit. Cause DmD is literally a blonde bimbo.

And once this game finally has a release i highly doubt the writing will be on equals with the renders or animatons. But if that is the case consider me surprised. My issue is not that most games have shitty writing but that we do not appreciate the devs who put some effort in their characters and their story despite them not knowing how to animate or make renders like lets say this game has or pretends to have. A good story can make up for alot of things. But good renders and shit stories won't save a game regardless how pretty they look.
hey alright thanks
 

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I can't think of a single believable character period in any of the big VNs, and that's assuming the writers/devs or fans want to do that in the first place. You don't have to go as far as Goethe to call them hackneyed lol. Hell most of these stories are inspired by (aka 'nicked from') erotic lit and the writing's not comparable to that even on strictly technical grounds.

If you're looking for an interesting narrative your best bet are obscure games like Sanguine Rose (hands down the best written porn game I've played), Thinking about you, The night driver, Vis, Apocalypse, Grolokk just off the top of my head. And some Jap titles. A lot of those are hobbies and as such have a genuine creative vision behind them. Or in the case of the Jap ones they're meant for a market that appreciates creativity a lot more than western 3d porn patrons. Even the gameplay is occasionally fun in some of them. As magnificent as, say, City of broken dreams is gfx wise it's still Blade Runner fanfic. Without the skip function and gallery/walkthrough mods I'm not sure I'd bother.
Ofc we both did not play all games out there and if we try the big ones we end up in a huge dissapointment.
I agree however that there are some gems out there if you got enough time and will to find them.

As far as i know summertime Saga makes the biggest bucks and yet the writing is horrible.
Glamour would also fit the bill for big bucks and the characters are garbage.

Japanese games have about 40 years more experience in the field than us. And if we go by erotic novels in asia they beat us over entire centuries of illustrated pornography. The Kama Sutra was already around in asia before the roman empire crumbled away and survived to this day while we figured out if certain positions would condem us to hell or not.

I don't know the game you mentioned but would it fit the following bill of rules by the writer?
1. Backstory (Almost everyone does that)
2. Base it someone you know IRL (almost no one does this unless they all live near a top model villa and only talk to beauties all day everyday with 0 issues about their personality or their looks)
3. Traits you know from presonal experience. (If your character is a domina and you never went to one you get 0 points)
4. Believable Surroundings. (Again write about shit you know yourself. Describing the insides of a U-Boat or Space Station will prove difficult if you lack the knowledge how people behave in such places)
5. Character growth (Example: Starts as shy person and transitions to a confident one.)
6. Let your character become alive: (Once you write you will find out that your character as you imagined personality/traits etc will start behaving a certain way. Accept those changes inside your mind and write it accordingly otherwise you will have a confident character who let's himself get bullied or abused by another character because you want the story to go that way but your character would not behave that way according to his personality. A Domina getting dominated is not a Domina or you can't write for shit.
7. Attach a Hook (A hook is something that gets the reader by his emotion. Disgust, love, fear etc. Once you can make a character that someone can identify with, which is much easier if you describe someone you know of IRL you get an emotional hook)
8. Cripple your character. (a trauma, bad experience, overconfidence. only one foot. Being blind etc. Basically something that cripples your character in a certain way or certain situations. Physical or Psychological. No one is perfect and no one will care about a character who can literally do everything without breaking a sweat.

I judge written characters on those 8 points (more like 10 but the last 2 are way to complicated to describe without writing an essay no one would read) and will do that with these ones as well. Let me know if one or all of your games fit said criteria and i would gladly give them a try once i have enough time to play them. Thanks :)

If the writing of this game is as good as the renders i will stand in awe about the entire thing as i am pretty sure that even without good writing this will become a big project IF the dev finally delivers the first version. (which i am not really sure about anymore)
However if i learned stuff from big games who make a decent amount of money like Glamour or DmD is that you can literally write absolute garbage and still hoard in money from people who would think Tolkien and Dostojewski were boxers from the 1920. Meanwhile decent devs who at least manage to get 6 out of 10 or even 7 out of 10 have very few patreons despite providing a very wonderful experience be it erotic or pornographic material.

Still i hope my suspicions about this game are based on bad experience and that i am wrong. So lets hope for the best :)
 
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always some whoknows itstrueornot update progresses,just show us the program,after all i payed him over 90$. its even enough for a gta5
 
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Well, according to the dev itself and if no shit happens, the content for 0.1 will probably be done next week. And the rest of the writing, coding and testing will be enter by July. If this "game" hasn't been released by August, four months after the demo, then dev is really just thinking about milking anyway.
P.S: If he been took this "no release date until test" from the beginning would have been a little better. But some people only learn from the harder way.
 

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Mrs. Perkins is much sexier now

if everything goes as it should go by mid-July it should be out


(Sorry for my bad english )
 
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but the honest goal is to get between 1-2 hours of gameplay(depending on if you are actually reading or playing the puzzles) or in that ball park for a first release and then repeat this for subsequent release (hopefully) around every 2-3 months.
Never got into dark neighborhood as I did not like the aesthetics, while I very much dig the ones in this, but most of all I don't know the developer, giving it the benefit of the doubt it sounds like good news, that he wants to figure out how to get have a regular release and to properly inform the patreons on the progress.
 
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