What do you thinks about sandbox in the games?

  • I like

    Votes: 59 65.6%
  • I dont like

    Votes: 20 22.2%
  • I have no opinion

    Votes: 11 12.2%

  • Total voters
    90
  • Poll closed .

Ferghus

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It's always frustrating when developers care about the gameplay so much that it slows down the development of the h content. People are here to corrupt and fuck Jessica not to solve puzzles and navigate the environment.
Okay, no one's stopping you from watching porn or reading a smut novel or playing a different game. Your priorities aren't everyone else's priorities, and you sure as shit don't speak for me.
I just discovered this game and wanted to patreon but I discovered you are remaking the entire this early in development as well as the game having a very slow update rate makes me very skeptical about giving any sort of support. I love the idea about the game and I really like the options you give the player but it seems you are overcomplicating a already very good existing framework for no reason at all and adding massive workload for one person.
So rather than ask about the reason, you'd rather assume there's no reason at all. Right. Typical "I would support, but" rhetoric. Y'all ever consider just asking the question normally without revealing your alleged intentions to support and decide after? Y'all don't wanna be scammed, but y'all also put yourself in a position where a dev can lie to you to get your money.
 
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tarzan999

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Okay, no one's stopping you from watching porn or reading a smut novel or playing a different game. Your priorities aren't everyone else's priorities, and you sure as shit don't speak for me.
Sure the developer is free to do whatever he wants, but that doesn't make it the right move. As long as he is making porn games with a patreon account it makes no sense to be remaking the gameplay. If anything he should be simplifying it so the porn content is even more accessible.
 
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Ferghus

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Sure the developer is free to do whatever he wants, but that doesn't make it the right move. As long as he is making porn games with a patreon account it makes no sense to be remaking the gameplay. If anything he should be simplifying it so the porn content is even more accessible.
And people are supposed to think you know what the right move is? You can't possibly know if it'll be worth it or not, or what other people want. And what kind of shitty advice is removing gameplay from a game? Not everyone wants a shitty Lessons of Passion style of "game."
 

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Apocalypse Lovers
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While working on this game, I’ve realized that there are as many possible directions for its development as there are players. My goal is, of course, to try to please everyone, but without distorting the essence of the game and without compromising my own vision of it. Because in the end, my vision is what matters most—because if I no longer enjoy the game myself, I’ll stop developing it.

That’s why, Tarzan999 , I understand your point of view and appreciate what you’re suggesting. However, what I personally enjoy (much like others, it seems—Fergus, for example.) is the game as it currently stands. That doesn’t mean I’m insensitive to your feedback—on the contrary, I take it into consideration. In fact, you might be pleased to know that for players like you, who are more focused on the pornographic content, the remake will include a fully functional gallery. All the "hot" content will be accessible in one click, without having to go through the story, gameplay, puzzles, or mini-games.

However, I want to emphasize that this is not the main focus of my game. For me, a Visual Novel (VN) is about immersing yourself in a story, interacting with characters, and witnessing their psychological development. This is what makes the pornographic scenes more immersive and personal. But I recognize that everyone can have a different approach to the same thing, or simply have different needs.
 

tarzan999

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And people are supposed to think you know what the right move is? You can't possibly know if it'll be worth it or not, or what other people want. And what kind of shitty advice is removing gameplay from a game? Not everyone wants a shitty Lessons of Passion style of "game."
Right now you sound just as clueless as the people who thought that Concord's character design was a good idea or the people who thought that Rings Of Power needs romantic tension between Galadriel and the frickin devil.

If you seriously think that an amateur porn game backed by patreon needs more or complex gameplay while the developer can't even seem to release h content I implore you to never start a company. You will waste your savings.
 

tarzan999

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While working on this game, I’ve realized that there are as many possible directions for its development as there are players. My goal is, of course, to try to please everyone, but without distorting the essence of the game and without compromising my own vision of it. Because in the end, my vision is what matters most—because if I no longer enjoy the game myself, I’ll stop developing it.

That’s why, Tarzan999 , I understand your point of view and appreciate what you’re suggesting. However, what I personally enjoy (much like others, it seems—Fergus, for example.) is the game as it currently stands. That doesn’t mean I’m insensitive to your feedback—on the contrary, I take it into consideration. In fact, you might be pleased to know that for players like you, who are more focused on the pornographic content, the remake will include a fully functional gallery. All the "hot" content will be accessible in one click, without having to go through the story, gameplay, puzzles, or mini-games.

However, I want to emphasize that this is not the main focus of my game. For me, a Visual Novel (VN) is about immersing yourself in a story, interacting with characters, and witnessing their psychological development. This is what makes the pornographic scenes more immersive and personal. But I recognize that everyone can have a different approach to the same thing, or simply have different needs.
Perfectly valid. Just not the best move if you want to maximize your chances of becoming so successful on patreon that you can quit your day job. Nowadays more and more people want to do things their own way, ignore criticisms or insert their own believes in the projects they've been assigned and thus we are seeing more and more failed projects that cost hundreds of millions of dollars or more. It's really not hard to see the connection.

Good luck! I really like the h content in your game so far and hope to see it expand.
 
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Ferghus

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Right now you sound just as clueless as the people who thought that Concord's character design was a good idea or the people who thought that Rings Of Power needs romantic tension between Galadriel and the frickin devil.

If you seriously think that an amateur porn game backed by patreon needs more or complex gameplay while the developer can't even seem to release h content I implore you to never start a company. You will waste your savings.
Bro, check your eyes. No one said the game needs to be needlessly complex. You're the one our here pretending to know more about game development than literally the game developer. And you're the one out here saying "People are here to corrupt and fuck Jessica not to solve puzzles and navigate the environment." What "people" do you think you're the voice of? Do you make a habit of surrounding yourself with straw people and making straw people arguments? Absolutely delusional.
 
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tarzan999

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Bro, check your eyes. No one said the game needs to be needlessly complex. You're the one our here pretending to know more about game development than literally the game developer. And you're the one out here saying "People are here to corrupt and fuck Jessica not to solve puzzles and navigate the environment." What "people" do you think you're the voice of? Absolutely delusional.
The people in charge of Rings Of Power, the 1 billion dollar show, decided that it would be a good idea to create romantic tension between Galadriel and the devil and the experienced and legendary developers of Starfield thought it was a good idea to create 1000 empty planets with proc gen content instead of creating a few handcrafted locations in which they can make sure that the players will have a good time between quests as they have done for over 20 years(and they launched the game without land vehicles as well).

People like you who still idolize developers blindly are delusional. You are still ignorant as if its the early 2000s. Get with the times. There are objectively good ideas and bad ideas. And developers are not smarter than any of us, they are merely either by luck or through work ethic in a position to create content. That's it.

I can't believe that there are still people as clueless as you on the internet.
 
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While working on this game, I’ve realized that there are as many possible directions for its development as there are players. My goal is, of course, to try to please everyone, but without distorting the essence of the game and without compromising my own vision of it. Because in the end, my vision is what matters most—because if I no longer enjoy the game myself, I’ll stop developing it.

That’s why, Tarzan999 , I understand your point of view and appreciate what you’re suggesting. However, what I personally enjoy (much like others, it seems—Fergus, for example.) is the game as it currently stands. That doesn’t mean I’m insensitive to your feedback—on the contrary, I take it into consideration. In fact, you might be pleased to know that for players like you, who are more focused on the pornographic content, the remake will include a fully functional gallery. All the "hot" content will be accessible in one click, without having to go through the story, gameplay, puzzles, or mini-games.

However, I want to emphasize that this is not the main focus of my game. For me, a Visual Novel (VN) is about immersing yourself in a story, interacting with characters, and witnessing their psychological development. This is what makes the pornographic scenes more immersive and personal. But I recognize that everyone can have a different approach to the same thing, or simply have different needs.
Dude , ignore the comments man. Your game was great the way it was. The suspense, the nuances was good. There were a lot of great ideas.

Don't let a bunch of idiot steer you away from what attracted them to your game in the first place.
 

Ferghus

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Aug 25, 2017
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The people in charge of Rings Of Power, the 1 billion dollar show, decided that it would be a good idea to create romantic tension between Galadriel and the devil and the experienced and legendary developers of Starfield thought it was a good idea to create 1000 empty planets with proc gen content instead of creating a few handcrafted locations in which they can make sure that the players will have a good time between quests as they have done for over 20 years(and they launched the game without land vehicles as well).

People like you who still idolize developers blindly are delusional. You are still ignorant as if its the early 2000s. Get with the times. There are objectively good ideas and bad ideas. And developers are not smarter than any of us, they are merely either by luck or through work ethic in a position to create content. That's it.

I can't believe that there are still people as clueless as you on the internet.
Okay, first of all, this isn't Rings of Power. Second of all, I haven't seen Rings of Power so whatever you're trying to say is lost on me. Thirdly, did you actually read the dev's proposed improvements? What out of this post do you think is "objectively bad"?
 

tarzan999

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Dude , ignore the comments man. Your game was great the way it was. The suspense, the nuances was good. There were a lot of great ideas.

Don't let a bunch of idiot steer you away from what attracted them to your game in the first place.
Yeah just do whatever you want and ignore criticisms. What a great idea!... for FAILURE.

People like you are responsible for the majority of failed or bad products.
 

Ferghus

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Yeah just do whatever you want and ignore criticisms. What a great idea!... for FAILURE.

People like you are responsible for the majority of failed or bad products.
Way to evade my question, dude. You aren't actually giving criticism if you're not addressing what the dev is actually doing. So far all you've done is take jabs at Rings of Power and assert that the dev should just cut gameplay and jump to just corruption and porn. You've only attempted to steer game development towards your own preferences under the pretense of it being "objectively" the correct decision. You've offered nothing of value in the way of advice.
 

byaaahh

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Feb 3, 2018
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You keep bringing up Rings of Power like it's relevant.

1. Rings of Power is a fan fiction, using material hijacked from something authored 80 years ago, having changes that aren't consistent with already established lore
2. This is an original story, being told and created by its author right now.

The only person who determines what happens is the creators. If they want opinions from their backers, they will ask for it.
 
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Ferghus

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I am simply in disbelieve that people like you still exist. You are like a relic from an old and more primitive age. Maybe your problem is that you haven't watched Rings Of Power so you don't know just how retarded 'developers' could be. It's a right of passage in a way.
So now I'm old instead of 14. Bro, make up your mind. And I'm certainly not about to take show recommendations from a guy who can't tell me what's actually wrong with the remake's plans. The very plans I linked for your convenience. And like what byaaahh pointed out, what the fuck is up with your obsession with that show? If your points are valid, it doesn't need a crutch. And the fact that you can't seem to name anything but this show makes me think you're the uncultured one.
 

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Apocalypse Lovers [v1.25 Remake] [Awake]


Apocalypse Lovers Resurrection — The Remake


Hi everyone,

The beta testing phase of the remake is finally over, and you’re about to discover this new version of the game, even sexier and more exciting, just the way you like it. As I’ve explained before, the idea behind this remake is simple: to offer those joining the adventure midway, as well as those wanting to relive Chapters 1 and 2, a greatly improved gameplay experience.

The goal was to deliver a smoother and more polished experience while ensuring full compatibility with the upcoming Chapter 3. This way, you can continue your journey without interruption, with your saves intact and optimized gameplay. This remake now serves as a solid foundation for the quick and efficient development of Chapter 3. Whether it’s the new systems implemented or the upcoming translations, every element has been rethought to streamline the creation process and ensure a result that meets my personal standards.

Enough talking, now go have fun!

PS: For those of you who are really motivated and want to participate more actively in the development of Apocalypse Lovers, don’t hesitate to contact me via PM on Discord so I can take your suggestions into account.

Win/Linux/Mac:

 
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Apocalypse Lovers [v1.25 Remake] [Awake]


Apocalypse Lovers Resurrection — The Remake


Hi everyone,

The beta testing phase of the remake is finally over, and you’re about to discover this new version of the game, even sexier and more exciting, just the way you like it. As I’ve explained before, the idea behind this remake is simple: to offer those joining the adventure midway, as well as those wanting to relive Chapters 1 and 2, a greatly improved gameplay experience.

The goal was to deliver a smoother and more polished experience while ensuring full compatibility with the upcoming Chapter 3. This way, you can continue your journey without interruption, with your saves intact and optimized gameplay. This remake now serves as a solid foundation for the quick and efficient development of Chapter 3. Whether it’s the new systems implemented or the upcoming translations, every element has been rethought to streamline the creation process and ensure a result that meets my personal standards.

Enough talking, now go have fun!

PS: For those of you who are really motivated and want to participate more actively in the development of Apocalypse Lovers, don’t hesitate to contact me via PM on Discord so I can take your suggestions into account.

Win/Linux/Mac:

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tarzan999

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You keep bringing up Rings of Power like it's relevant.

1. Rings of Power is a fan fiction, using material hijacked from something authored 80 years ago, having changes that aren't consistent with already established lore
2. This is an original story, being told and created by its author right now.

The only person who determines what happens is the creators. If they want opinions from their backers, they will ask for it.
And Rings of Power is the most relevant example of why smart people like me don't have blind faith in creators. The specifics don't matter. This developer wants to remake his gameplay while the vast majority of people are here for porn. He is free to do it, but it's objectively not the smartest move. If you can't comprehend that I feel sorry for you.


So now I'm old instead of 14. Bro, make up your mind. And I'm certainly not about to take show recommendations from a guy who can't tell me what's actually wrong with the remake's plans. The very plans I linked for your convenience. And like what byaaahh pointed out, what the fuck is up with your obsession with that show? If your points are valid, it doesn't need a crutch. And the fact that you can't seem to name anything but this show makes me think you're the uncultured one.
I didn't call you old. I called you a relic of an old age. A person who still doesn't know anything about anything like 99% of humans in the pre internet/early internet days. Even my 10 year old cousin who spends way too much time on his ipad has more common sense than you. You are so stupid. That's why I didn't want to continue this conversation.

The reason I keep bringing up the show is to try to teach you that 'creators' are not special. They fuck up just as much as any janitor or accountant or whatever out there. That's why listening to criticisms and not doing whatever you want is important.
 

byaaahh

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Feb 3, 2018
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And Rings of Power is the most relevant example of why smart people like me don't have blind faith in creators. The specifics don't matter. This developer wants to remake his gameplay while the vast majority of people are here for porn. He is free to do it, but it's objectively not the smartest move. If you can't comprehend that I feel sorry for you.
Jesus Christ, it's not blind faith to let a creator make changes to optimise and improve things and seeing how it shakes out.

The creator is trying to tell a story, if all you want is porn you know there are websites with videos, right?
 
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