Are there any people here that still can't get enough of the same incest pattern VN like me?

[woody554]

Only 1 out of 50 VN's will get it right, so it leaves everyone wanting more properly made VN's with the theme mentioned in the OP.

that's so true. the basic incest house setting people on forums like to claim is everywhere, almost never survives until the good part. if the mom manages to get fucked before the game is abandoned that's already a huge win. and if it gets completed without a phoned in abrupt ending (becuse dev wants to drop it), that's almost unheard of.

 

[megaplayboy10k]

Only 1 out of 50 VN's will get it right, so it leaves everyone wanting more properly made VN's with the theme mentioned in the OP.

Sturgeon's Law: "95% of everything is crap." But given there are almost 1500 incest games out there, that means there's still lots of good incest games, including those that follow a fairly "stock" formula/plot structure.

 

[Yngling]

It's an extra spice to the story. In fiction, a victimless taboo.

Writing a story is often about getting the audience to feel a certain way and there are tricks to make that easier. In horror it's often from the perspective of a woman, women are smaller and more vulnerable than men so from her perspective it's easier to make the audience feel scared.

Now incest isn't needed, Being a Dik has very appealing erotic scenes, but that required build up, character development, teasing, flirting.

Incest is a trick to make that process easier, for the audience, it quickly establishes a relationship with the characters because we are all aware of what a family is and it makes it wrong, but in a way where no one is certain to get hurt unlike rape, cucking or abuse.

I agree with what you are saying from a "lazy dev" point of view, but in my opinion, a good incest story needs to go a bit further to properly exhibit the internal struggle that would be inherent to incest. I mean, if the MC is some kind of sociopath who just fucks anything that moves without any feelings, then in my opinion the build-up and the taboo is gone. That is also why the standard incest harem setup fails a bit for me. Doesn't mean I won't play it though...

With regards to abuse, this is in my opinion actually a topic that needs to be better addressed, at least in father-daughter games. It is the big issue of IRL father-daughter relationships, especially if the daughter is "just a bit over 18" (cough). With addressing, I don't mean lengthy expositions about why it's wrong and so on but, for example, I like it if the daughter takes the intiative instead of leaving everything to the father. And the father has less leeway as the son / brother when it comes to overly lewd behaviour.

 

[johnreturns]

Incest is writing shorthand for forbidden love.
It is immediately recognized as taboo for most settings.
The protagonist is expected to be near to the person they desire, even when pushed away.
The protagonist is expected to have a history and emotional connection to the person they desire.
The protagonist and love interest start with something to lose, creating conflict and consequence.
That is a lot of freight to put into one word.

It makes it easier to write, like using any other archetype.

You could absolutely write the same thing with your boss/student/minister/neighbor or even just the cute bartender. It just takes you more time to build the connections and consequences before you move into the romance portion of the plot. This is part of the appeal of infidelity as well; you want to fuck someone you shouldn't, they are tangential to your life, you both feel the connection, and you both have something to lose.

Not to say it isn't a fetish, it absolutely is. If you get to go through the whole game with "that's my kink" on your mind, then it's a lot more satisfying than romancing a flight attendant. Unless you're in to flight attendants. Or your mom is a flight attendant. Of course, if you fetishize redheads and the entire game is smoking hot redheads, you're just as lucky.