Ryuki_time

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Doubtful. If that was the case, NTR enjoyers would think: "OH, BEING CUCKED IS SO GOOD!", but they most likely think: "DAMN, HE IS RAMMING HER GOOD! WHAT A STUD! AND WHAT A HORNY BITCH SHE IS! AMAZING!", meaning that they are not even considering them as their wives, but an actors, as if in a porn movie.
I heavily doubt there's people who genuinely play Ntr games just to get that feeling of being cucked.
Those who do want to self-insert would rather play a netori instead like Ntr-legend where they are the one doing the cucking.
Given from what I've seen on Dlsite netorare (or neotarase even) eroges, it's a staple thing. You will see netorare storylines/mechanics even being used on small games from not-so popular authors with a average drawing skills.

And for those that do consume netorare eroge, just like danadana said:
Really, for most people is basically like reading a story that is foreign to them, is like reading a dramatic book where not everything is happiness, therefore you do not project yourself into them nor do you empathize.

but then there are people who do have this fetish and more or less look for this feeling

Netorare is more than a simple act of infidelity, but the fetishization of jealousy and other negative feelings commonly associated with it. is usually portrayed from the perspective of someone losing his significant other, in order to delve deep into the jealousy aspect of the fetish, however, for story purposes might switch between multiple POVs and also portray the events from the perspective of the stolen.

As a recommendation, if you play this type of game and you do not have this fetish, basically do not project yourself into the game, the protagonist is not you, you are just reading a story that has nothing to do with you.
A lot of people don't really care about the Mc getting cucked nor do they project (I mean, why would you?).
So in the end, you fap to it and then go "Wow that was hot! I'd hate to be that guy lol!"
 

daza123z

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Especially not in this game he's made deliberately dense that he simply can't tell his wife is sucking and fucking on camera, its not meant to be deep and thought provoking
 

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Really, for most people is basically like reading a story that is foreign to them, is like reading a dramatic book where not everything is happiness, therefore you do not project yourself into them nor do you empathize.

but then there are people who do have this fetish and more or less look for this feeling

Netorare is more than a simple act of infidelity, but the fetishization of jealousy and other negative feelings commonly associated with it. is usually portrayed from the perspective of someone losing his significant other, in order to delve deep into the jealousy aspect of the fetish, however, for story purposes might switch between multiple POVs and also portray the events from the perspective of the stolen.

As a recommendation, if you play this type of game and you do not have this fetish, basically do not project yourself into the game, the protagonist is not you, you are just reading a story that has nothing to do with you.
It is impossible to not project yourself into the game, because YOU are moving the story. YOU are the trigger of everything what happens in the game. The main character is YOUR avatar, objectification of YOUR will. And being thrown into the story, where YOUR actions are making a wife of YOUR avatar to cheat is... a dubious fun, and sounds more like a punishment. That's not the same as reading a book, you see?
That's why I find it difficult to understand NTR enjoyers. Maybe they are really masochists, who like to be punished...?

I heavily doubt there's people who genuinely play Ntr games just to get that feeling of being cucked.
Those who do want to self-insert would rather play a netori instead like Ntr-legend where they are the one doing the cucking.
Given from what I've seen on Dlsite netorare (or neotarase even) eroges, it's a staple thing. You will see netorare storylines/mechanics even being used on small games from not-so popular authors with a average drawing skills.

And for those that do consume netorare eroge, just like danadana said:

A lot of people don't really care about the Mc getting cucked nor do they project (I mean, why would you?).
So in the end, you fap to it and then go "Wow that was hot! I'd hate to be that guy lol!"
I don't understand how they do not project themselves if it is them who are moving the story. It is a mystery how they are doing it or rather they are lying to themselves?

as far as I know Eleanor is not my wife she is a fictional character, why do you correlate fiction with reality?

Personally I like watching people suffer, and Honestly id rather they were not real people having to suffer.
You just hate yourself, that's why you enjoy YOUR avatar to suffer.

I'm mostly just here for the moral degradation of the girls, don't care about the mc except for being a vehicle to get scenes and make them be more amoral due to the relationship between him and the girl
I hope you are not ignoring yourself as much as YOUR avatar.

Correction its not our wife it's someone else hot ass wife
It is a wife of YOUR avatar, how can you ignore it? I do not understand.
 

Janus6966

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Yeah, I never put myself in the position of the MC. I like watching everyone suffer as it all falls apart.
It's difficult for me to do that. I mentioned earlier, that I'm used to male protag games, with a dating or harem theme. So I've kinda been conditioned to put myself in the place of the protag.

This does help it make sense for me, though. I can see how people would enjoy it, if they're able to look at it from an outside perspective. I'm just not capable of that.
 
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Reven23

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How about we stop bitching and talking about self-inserting and talk about the game. I never followed his updates on ci-en or maybe I forgot. Will the DLC be a similar case to Scars of Summer After? Can someone fill me in on the details?
 
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DicksInSpace

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How about we stop bitching and talking about self-inserting and talk about the game. I never followed his updates on ci-en or maybe I forgot. Will the DLC be a similar case to Scars of Summer After? Can someone fill me in on the details?
Extra scenes for base/post game afaik
 
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danadana

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It is impossible to not project yourself into the game, because YOU are moving the story. YOU are the trigger of everything what happens in the game. The main character is YOUR avatar, objectification of YOUR will. And being thrown into the story, where YOUR actions are making a wife of YOUR avatar to cheat is... a dubious fun, and sounds more like a punishment. That's not the same as reading a book, you see?
That's why I find it difficult to understand NTR enjoyers. Maybe they are really masochists, who like to be punished...?
As you can see, all the users tell you the same thing, do not insert yourself into the game and do not let it affect you emotionally If you can't respect these two rules, it's because you have a cuck fetish.

Why play a game that is going to give you bad experiences ? If you let these things make you emotionally unstable, it's better to just not play them.

Anyone who plays these games and gets emotionally involved is basically someone who has a cuck fetish since the game is designed so that the user perceives those emotions. The problem is that it seems to be a shamed fetish and many people probably don't want to admit it anyway or they simply refuse to admit it, or directly not wanting to talk about the topic with strangers on a random forum

And I want to clarify that there is nothing wrong with this, each person likes what they like and there is no reason to feel ashamed.
 
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Mr. Cofman

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As you can see, all the users tell you the same thing, do not insert yourself into the game and do not let it affect you emotionally If you can't respect these two rules, it's because you have a cuck fetish.

Why play a game that is going to give you bad experiences ? If you let these things make you emotionally unstable, it's better to just not play them.

Anyone who plays these games and gets emotionally involved is basically someone who has a cuck fetish since the game is designed so that the user perceives those emotions. The problem is that it seems to be a shamed fetish and many people probably don't want to admit it anyway or they simply refuse to admit it, or directly not wanting to talk about the topic with strangers on a random forum

And I want to clarify that there is nothing wrong with this, each person likes what they like and there is no reason to feel ashamed.
As I said before, it is impossible not to self-insert into the game, unless people are forcing themselves to ignore that fact or deliberately lie to themselves, because every action in the game happened ONLY because they triggered that action.
Also, there is no description in this game that would imply unavoidable NTR (Netorare and netorase). I did not expect this, nor do I enjoy that kind of content.
Netori on the other hand is acceptable, but everything here goes under NTR/Netorare tag unfortunately.
 
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As I said before, it is impossible not to self-insert into the game, unless people are forcing themselves to ignore that fact or deliberately lie to themselves, because every action in the game happened ONLY because they triggered that action.
Also, there is no description in this game that would imply unavoidable NTR (Netorare and netorase). I did not expect this, nor do I enjoy that kind of content.
Netori on the other hand is acceptable, but everything here goes under NTR/Netorare tag unfortunately.
Nah, it's just a personal trait of yours. You like to insert yourself as the protagonist in all the games. I'm going to give you a more pragmatic example.

If you play God of War, who are you controlling Kratos or you are kartos? And if we play Tomb Raider are you controlling lara or you are lara?And if we talk about something more specific, if you play resident evil 2, who is killing zombies, you or Leon S Kenedy?
 
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Mr. Cofman

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Nah, it's just a personal trait of yours. You like to insert yourself as the protagonist in all the games. I'm going to give you a more pragmatic example.
I disagree, because player is the trigger.

If you play God of War, who are you controlling Kratos or you are kartos? And if we play Tomb Raider are you controlling lara or you are lara?And if we talk about something more specific, if you play resident evil 2, who is killing zombies, you or Leon S Kenedy?
They are not me, of course, but my avatars, since every action made by them is only because I told them to, right? They are representation of MY will, and regardless of people's personal interpretation, it is what it is.

I understand that you want to insert yourself into cool characters of which no one on this earth is going to be even a quarter of them, but bro in cuck?
Though it is true that I'd not like to be given a role of a certain type of characters, dude, are trying to troll me? Pfft!~
You silly goose!~
At least I'm being honest unlike most of the people, who play games because "I LIKE PEOPLE TO SUFFER, DUH!". I like virtual people's suffering too, to a certain extent, but... not taking responsibility for that is a... cowardice.
 
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Ryuki_time

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As I said before, it is impossible not to self-insert into the game, unless people are forcing themselves to ignore that fact or deliberately lie to themselves, because every action in the game happened ONLY because they triggered that action.
Also, there is no description in this game that would imply unavoidable NTR (Netorare and netorase). I did not expect this, nor do I enjoy that kind of content.
Netori on the other hand is acceptable, but everything here goes under NTR/Netorare tag unfortunately.
That's one of those times where this forum needs the facepalm emoji back because of overthinkers like you.
 
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