VN Ren'Py Artemis [v0.5.1] [digi.B]

[EvolutionKills]

I still have v0.3.2 (previous release, Chapter 1 to 3) and the images are exactly like what you posted. Those scenes were from the v0.1 (first release) where the renders quality is so so, but the renders gets better and better. Later scenes especially starting from the second release (Chapter 2) where the MC (and players) was introduced to the INK girls. It just gets better with each releases otherwise many (if not all) would have complained very vocally. While Chapter 4 is the complete Book 1, digi.B couldn't re-render all those earlier images because of time constraints and he already got his hands full on so many things he barely managed everything splendidly.

However, it should also be noted that those earlier renders would probably best to be redone sometimes later in the future, but for now it is not worth it. Most players will prefer digi.B to continue with the story/game. Cheers.

Yeah, I was just perplexed. I had entirely forgotten just how rough the early sections looked, and my recollection of how the vast majority of the game looked just didn't mesh with what I was seeing while replaying the game from the very beginning. So much so that I downloaded one of the compressed versions to take a comparative look at those scenes, to see whether or not there was a discernable difference in quality. There was not. So at that point I figured it probably wasn't a problem with the download or the game, and I soldiered on, happy to see things start to improved past the sorority's introduction. By the time of June's dinner date, it was back to looking pretty fantastic. Outside a few quibbles with some of the animations (framerate and quality are excellent, as are attention to details like facial animation, but corners get cut with some rigid limbs and awkward hand floating/placement), it's pretty top notch all around.

 

[JohnF95zone]

Yeah, I was just perplexed. I had entirely forgotten just how rough the early sections looked, and my recollection of how the vast majority of the game looked just didn't mesh with what I was seeing while replaying the game from the very beginning. So much so that I downloaded one of the compressed versions to take a comparative look at those scenes, to see whether or not there was a discernable difference in quality. There was not. So at that point I figured it probably wasn't a problem with the download or the game, and I soldiered on, happy to see things start to improved past the sorority's introduction. By the time of June's dinner date, it was back to looking pretty fantastic. Outside a few quibbles with some of the animations (framerate and quality are excellent, as are attention to details like facial animation, but corners get cut with some rigid limbs and awkward hand floating/placement), it's pretty top notch all around.

(Ran out of reactions, have to reply) Luckily for me, I only played on Full HD (1080p) so the early renders did not look that bad, but I would imagine if let say playing on Ultra, 2K, 4K, 8K or whatever the upper echelon resolutions on a 27+ inch monitor (some of the earlier renders) must have been looked like.

 

[DirtyMario]

Yeah, I was just perplexed. I had entirely forgotten just how rough the early sections looked, and my recollection of how the vast majority of the game looked just didn't mesh with what I was seeing while replaying the game from the very beginning. So much so that I downloaded one of the compressed versions to take a comparative look at those scenes, to see whether or not there was a discernable difference in quality. There was not. So at that point I figured it probably wasn't a problem with the download or the game, and I soldiered on, happy to see things start to improved past the sorority's introduction. By the time of June's dinner date, it was back to looking pretty fantastic. Outside a few quibbles with some of the animations (framerate and quality are excellent, as are attention to details like facial animation, but corners get cut with some rigid limbs and awkward hand floating/placement), it's pretty top notch all around.

(Ran out of reactions, have to reply) Luckily for me, I only played on Full HD (1080p) so the early renders did not look that bad, but I would imagine if let say playing on Ultra, 2K, 4K, 8K or whatever the upper echelon resolutions on a 27+ inch monitor (some of the earlier renders) must have been looked like.

Had to replay from the start due to a case of saves going *poof* so I got to see first hand how bad the early renders looked. And I don't mean "bad" compared to other VNs, they're still quite okay. It's just that the more recent renders look so much better, and the newer animations are exceptional as well.
I don't think it's an issue with screen resolution, the old renders are just blurry and some facial expressions were (partially are) scary looking. He improved a ton since he started out and now it's one of the visually best looking VNs out there.

 

[JohnF95zone]

Had to replay from the start due to a case of saves going *poof* so I got to see first hand how bad the early renders looked. And I don't mean "bad" compared to other VNs, they're still quite okay. It's just that the more recent renders look so much better, and the newer animations are exceptional as well.
I don't think it's an issue with screen resolution, the old renders are just blurry and some facial expressions were (partially are) scary looking. He improved a ton since he started out and now it's one of the visually best looking VNs out there.

My bad about the screen resolution because it is purely my speculation because I have not played any games (adult or not) on any screens other than 15 inch LCD 1080p. I wholeheartedly agree that the renders had improved a lot and were just referring to some earlier ones, for me it does not look that bad but perhaps because of my display and resolution. I just thought that higher resolution would exaggerate the player dissatisfaction because of upscaling or something like that, but yeah purely bad speculation on my part. Cheers.

 

[EvolutionKills]

My bad about the screen resolution because it is purely my speculation because I have not played any games (adult or not) on any screens other than 15 inch LCD 1080p. I wholeheartedly agree that the renders had improved a lot and were just referring to some earlier ones, for me it does not look that bad but perhaps because of my display and resolution. I just thought that higher resolution would exaggerate the player dissatisfaction because of upscaling or something like that, but yeah purely bad speculation on my part. Cheers.

I think a lot of it had to do with two things. One, the original render settings. Whenever you are rendering out a scene in a 3D program (3D Studio Max, Maya, Blender, etc.) you can set all kinds of options, including the final output's resolution and file type. The early renders seemed to really suffer from compression artifacts, where visual information is lost or missing. This could be from rendering the initial output at a lower resolution (e.g. 720p) to save time, and them up-rezzing the picture in another program (e.g. GIMP, Photoshop, or even Ren'Py) to a larger output (e.g. 1080p).

Another possibility is you can also lose information if you make a copy of the original render in a compressed 'lossy' file type, like JPEG; as opposed to keeping it in a 'lossless' and much larger format like RAW, TIF, or PNG. Also, you can get those artifacts when you put images through a compression algorithim, which was why I downloaded and compared a compressed version of the game; so see if the difference was more or less pronounced. It is also especially visible in darker scenes, as one of the things to take the biggest hit in size compression is color depth. So it means less color, which results in much starker and sharper color gradients. In really dark scenes, this can manifest as strange blotches of random colors in what should otherwise be pitch black or near to it.

 

[TheDick69+]

Had completely forgotten the story, well at least some parts. So I did a total restart and that was good. I can only agree, the renders gets better, they are not that great from the start. Still, the story is so great that I didn't think about is it so much. The MC has no poker face and that's so funny.

 

[JohnF95zone]

Had completely forgotten the story, well at least some parts. So I did a total restart and that was good. I can only agree, the renders gets better, they are not that great from the start. Still, the story is so great that I didn't think about is it so much. The MC has no poker face and that's so funny.

I, congressman John McClane approve this message. I should probably had used that terms earlier, not that great instead I used the opposite, my bad. It is more in line to what I had experienced playing the game myself.

 

[cheesetriangles]

Just found this game, played through all the content in one sitting, and totally fell in love with Zelda. I will wait however long it takes for us to get her.

 

[Hildegardt]

I mean, seriously guys. Especially Zoe goes from this:

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Nobody can deny that the quality got better over time and in some cases going back to the beginning of the game can be a little tough. Looking at the earlier Zoe, who would have thought that she was supposed to be this hot?

 

[Moiraine™]

Is that Filthy Frank on the left side?

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[PapaPhat]

I mean, seriously guys. Especially Zoe goes from this:

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Nobody can deny that the quality got better over time and in some cases going back to the beginning of the game can be a little tough. Looking at the earlier Zoe, who would have thought that she was supposed to be this hot?

Yep! That was my point when the subject was first breached... the improvements are a reason to THANK Digi.B, not complain about the initial image quality. Hopefully Digi.B will return to those initial renders to give them the updated treatment once the full game is completed. However, the improvements do serve as a mile marker to indicate how this dev grew during the production of this fine, fab, and brilliant title!

Adventure ever on my friends, Phat

PS: My face mirrors my lovely June Moon in this image below when I see the amazing improvements that Digi.B made!


I'm with you there baby... looks amazing, right?

 

[Hildegardt]

Hopefully Digi.B will return to those initial renders to give them the updated treatment once the full game is completed.

I feel like updating the earlier versions of the game might be too much work to be worth it. Because not only did the textures and lighting get vastly improved, but also the posing, facial expressions and all the little animations.

 

[Walter Victor]

I feel like updating the earlier versions of the game might be too much work to be worth it. Because not only did the textures and lighting get vastly improved, but also the posing, facial expressions and all the little animations.

If he wants to put this game on Steam, reworking earlier images might be imperative.

Then there is the impression the images give to brand new players. If he would like them to continue playing, and perhaps support him financially, it would be beneficial to make improvements.

It doesn't need to be all done at once.

 

[Elhemeer]

If he wants to put this game on Steam, reworking earlier images might be imperative.

Then there is the impression the images give to brand new players. If he would like them to continue playing, and perhaps support him financially, it would be beneficial to make improvements.

It doesn't need to be all done at once.

I think you're overestimating the discernment of the average player ... I suspect most people won't be bothered by the quality of the early works.

 

[DirtyMario]

Love the little back and forth banter that Digi and Drifty have because they chose the same model for their MC.
Both excellent AVNs and I loved seeing Lexi make a little cameo in Artemis. Looking forward to Driftys next project.

 

[Walter Victor]

I think you're overestimating the discernment of the average player ... I suspect most people won't be bothered by the quality of the early works.

Of course! For instance, it didn't bother me one little bit that the artwork at the start was improvable.

However, as has been shown by a few posters, at least some people noticed it. It would be that audience that would be targeted if the developer wishes to do so. No telling how many potential players (and Patrons) in that latter group gave up on the game before really getting into it.

 

[Rockstarwest99]

I so want to have a sex scene with Kindraaaaaaaa

 

[Primarch Dorn]

digi.B as for downloads, why not use torrents? At least as an option. Torrent of your game on rpdl.net now have 42 seeders. Great speed, no size restriction, and you don't have to worry about hosting. But for sure there will be those who do not want to use torrents, unfortunately...

And why would he do that

 

[Primarch Dorn]

Digi doesn't visit this thread, nor release the game for free

 

[DirtyMario]

I so want to have a sex scene with Kindraaaaaaaa

Not straight up the most attractive girl in the game but certainly best girl. She's just too cute with MC.