Elhemeer

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Edit: is any of this 3 trinity AVN Porn ?
I mean, do be fair, something "being porn" is only not considered art if you A) subscribe to the idea that porn is immoral and must be avoided at all costs; or B) you believe anything involving explicit sex is inherently cheap and made with little effort so nothing that has such content can be of any value.

Pornography, by definition, is anything that involves implicit (soft core) or explicit (hard core) sex. If you see someone interacting with visible or implied exogenous zones, it is porn.

NOTHING in the clinical definition of porn prevents that work from being art, nor does being porn automatically determine the quality of the product.

Thus anyone who summarily says something is not art because it's porn is, by logic and quantification, a Troll™. Therefore, their opinion -- while their right to have and express -- is not worth wasting time with.

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xapican

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Yes, I feel similar, such a coment in a forum with "Porn contet" is a bit strange, to word it friendly,
what drives me up the tree is eachtime when the work of any dev. is dismissed, not saying that this kind of entertainment is wow the top, but you can see clearly the improvement trough out the years, and the variety of themes, and aproaches.
the interaction and cross mention of the 3 titles is in my eyes a gain, so I m happy to have played all 3.
 

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I believe so ...

EDIT: Honestly, I did a full replay (after getting a new computer) of 4.2 twice (Kate/Zelda paths), so I'd forgot that Zoe and Cass had HAD data leaks ... I still have a v0.3.2 of the game. May go through just to try and find them again for S&Gs Didn't save the old walkthroughs though ...
Is it confirmed by digi.B that she is completely out ?
if it's true that would be really disappointing because the way I see it, Cass and the mc's story is intertwined dont get me wrong she is an evil bitch but she is one of the most interesting characters in the game not having her as LI could mean less story/change in her character or she stays as just an antagonist of the story.
 
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xapican

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Is it confirmed by digi.B that she is completely out ?
if it's true that would be really disappointing because the way I see it, Cass and the mc's story is intertwined dont get me wrong she is an evil bitch but she is one of the most interesting characters in the game not having her as LI could mean less story/change in her character or she stays as just an antagonist of the story.
I think, she has still apearace but she is not "romanceable" the same with Zoe, she will maybe apear but is not a character which you can have intercourse anymore.
 
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DanteRed

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Bummed about Zoe - needed a ZZ-Top themed threesome with her and Zelda...

Probably couldn't get (or wouldn't want to pay for) licenses to have Tubesnake Boogie and Pearl Necklace playing in the background. Could do it as part of a fancy double date and have Sharp Dressed Man intro the scene...
I agree, I was bummed to hear about both of them. The only problem with Zoe is that she didn't get a chance to shine, unlike the other girls. While her massage scene was nice, it didn't feel like it was anything special. But I did like her scene with the girls, when she was commenting that June is dressed to impress, then mimicking with Naomi how June and the MC would get it on later, only for June to come back and catch them in the act. That was funny, I laughed for a solid two minutes.
 

Elhemeer

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I think, she has still apearace but she is not "romanceable" the same with Zoe, she will maybe apear but is not a character which you can have intercourse anymore.
There's nothing in the game so far that makes me think MC won't be able to have intercourse with non-LIs throughout the game.

It is true though that, to this point, it's only happened with former LIs Cass and Zoe (kinda). But of the remaining LIs he's also only had the chance for intercourse with June and Kate, so lots of room for growth there.
 

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The updates are slow already, adding more paths would make it worse. So I think cutting some paths short is the way to go. There is no reason to delete charaters entirelly from the story, making them side fuck buddies works.
How many lis are there? I think there are more than in Badik.
 

xapican

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The updates are slow already, adding more paths would make it worse. So I think cutting some paths short is the way to go. There is no reason to delete charaters entirelly from the story, making them side fuck buddies works.
How many lis are there? I think there are more than in Badik.
I don't like comparing, on the other hand you are absolutly point on, there are plenty of LI with interesting personality features.
My impression is, like you said it is more a pragmatic, decision in the development.
The least apealing characters have less apearance time.
 
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I don't like comparing, on the other hand you are absolutly point on, there are plenty of LI with interesting personality features.
My impression is, like you said it is more a pragmatic, decision in the development.
The least apealing characters have less apearance time.
but then comes the question who is the least appealing ? plenty of people will like different LI so expect it to be quite even if you should ask. i would say just be patient and let the dev make it how they see it happen. may take some more time but you will get better results than cutting out content. that being said i do which for once change that should be doable. the choice between zelda (the lawyer) and zoe (the painter). now you need to choose between them i would rather see that changed a bit so you can do both instead of either or. but thats all i would change as i want to see both of the girls.
 
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homejorz

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Any information on when the next update is due? Feels like forever at this point since the last one
 

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Haven't played this yet, kept waiting for another update. Roughly how many hours of gameplay are there?
 

Elhemeer

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i nearly forgot the whole story damn...i really don't like how some devs take up to six month or more to deliver an update..it's simply not right to me
Then don't play games by devs that take their time to make sure the story is well done and each update has significant content. Only look for games with fast turnaround or "completed" tags. Then it won't bother you.
 

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Then don't play games by devs that take their time to make sure the story is well done and each update has significant content. Only look for games with fast turnaround or "completed" tags. Then it won't bother you.
This. This right here. Honestly I don't mind waiting because this dev always delivers good content that is worth waiting for.
 

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Happy Monday!

Another productive week. For the scene being worked on I brought in a number of custom props to help better stage the scene. I've also been doing a lot of zbrush work lately. This is a real stupid detail some might think, but I do get head pats every now and then when someone catches a detail I put in that most people probably wouldn't do.
The scene I'm working on involves Naomi. A proper spar should you choose to contact her during your down time. When I was working on importing the mouth guard, I noticed your upper lip bulges some when wearing one. So I took Naomi's model into zbrush and made a morph to make a convincing appearance that she's got a mouth guard on. Again stupid little detail but I liked how it came out.
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On the subject of zbrush, I've been wanting to do is move away from using shells for HD nipples (lewd talk here). I hate geoshells and try to avoid using them where I can. Artemis used to use geoshells and I got rid of them after CH2. Now I made my own HD nipple morphs. The ones you get in DAZ look like a giant ant or mosquito bites. And with the HD geoshell sometimes DAZ will spaz out and create these odd rings on the breasts. So rolled up the sleeves and finally created my own HD nips
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versus DAZ's version of nips
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Just some extra behind of the scenes I wanted to share. I'm always getting these ideas mid-scene and always try to find solutions to these issues or ideas. When working on a scene and if something doesn't exist in the DAZ store like a prop, or if a model has something I don't like. I either make it from scratch, bring it into blender or another 3d program and modify the object, then re-import it, or whatever. The worst thing I could tell myself is "forget it, because of "x" reason". It is a lot of work, but I'm pretty proud of the results I shared above and that makes the extra work worth it in the end.
Still chopping away at this current scene. After I wrap this one up, it's just one more scene left and it's a smooth ride downhill to the finish line since posing/scene staging are the biggest time-consuming of development for me.

That wraps it up for this devlog. Thank you everyone and be safe and stay hydrated!

-digi.B
 

Dragon59

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Happy Monday!

Another productive week. For the scene being worked on I brought in a number of custom props to help better stage the scene. I've also been doing a lot of zbrush work lately. This is a real stupid detail some might think, but I do get head pats every now and then when someone catches a detail I put in that most people probably wouldn't do.
The scene I'm working on involves Naomi. A proper spar should you choose to contact her during your down time. When I was working on importing the mouth guard, I noticed your upper lip bulges some when wearing one. So I took Naomi's model into zbrush and made a morph to make a convincing appearance that she's got a mouth guard on. Again stupid little detail but I liked how it came out.
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On the subject of zbrush, I've been wanting to do is move away from using shells for HD nipples (lewd talk here). I hate geoshells and try to avoid using them where I can. Artemis used to use geoshells and I got rid of them after CH2. Now I made my own HD nipple morphs. The ones you get in DAZ look like a giant ant or mosquito bites. And with the HD geoshell sometimes DAZ will spaz out and create these odd rings on the breasts. So rolled up the sleeves and finally created my own HD nips
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versus DAZ's version of nips
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Just some extra behind of the scenes I wanted to share. I'm always getting these ideas mid-scene and always try to find solutions to these issues or ideas. When working on a scene and if something doesn't exist in the DAZ store like a prop, or if a model has something I don't like. I either make it from scratch, bring it into blender or another 3d program and modify the object, then re-import it, or whatever. The worst thing I could tell myself is "forget it, because of "x" reason". It is a lot of work, but I'm pretty proud of the results I shared above and that makes the extra work worth it in the end.
Still chopping away at this current scene. After I wrap this one up, it's just one more scene left and it's a smooth ride downhill to the finish line since posing/scene staging are the biggest time-consuming of development for me.

That wraps it up for this devlog. Thank you everyone and be safe and stay hydrated!

-digi.B
The greyscale nipples look like the mountains of Mars.
 
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