VN Ren'Py Artemis [v0.5.1] [digi.B]

[MrFriendly]

Yeah, I read some of your posts. I respect your opinion, but was surprised at your animosity towards the sorority house girls. I just don't see how any of this is their fault, as I don't think they would be involved in the decision to reject the mc for the new job position. I kind of understand your dislike for Reina, since she has authority. But even with her, I'm holding back judgement because we don't actually see the conversation between her and Cassie about the mc. Certainly, I have a lot of love for June. At this point, she is a close second behind Kindra for me.

Two reasons:
1) Guilt by association. The HoI girls are almost all friends and employees of Reina, they are going to support their friend, landlady, and employer over the MC (and should). In addition the MC just met them, he has no reason to want to be around them, especially now that he didn't get the job with Reina. Why would he want to see them again besides the fact that they are hot? (Yes, I know, "porn game" but I was hoping for more than that).
2) Besides having people to party with there's no reason for them to be in the game. They are quite obviously, painfully so, in the game to be fucked. Depending on the player's decisions the MC can fuck one of them right away. I wouldn't be surprised if next chapter the MC can fuck 1-2 more of them. The entire HoI "fill in as a suckable dick" is the weakest part of chapter 1 and seems to be there to show what the sandbox/free roam will look like and give the player some extra lewd bits. We are not given nearly the background for them as we are Kindra, Cassandra, DK, and June.

And I like June too. But if associating with June means associating with all of the HoI I will be disappointed.

Agreed completely ; especially Reina. She's the one who called of hiring MC because of huge bit-er Cassandra. The others still need to apologize to MC given they used him to kick the other bitch out and since MC was thanked by not been hired.... MC was just used and then thrown away.

Exactly, the MC was a warm body. Technically, that should be all he is to them (and vice versa) except for June, who is a friend. The HoI ladies are not people the MC has any emotional investment in nor do they have any with him. Besides being fuck partners there's no real compelling reason for them in the game, so far. It is still really early. The first episode was well written and had good reasons for a lot of what happened, if the MC immediately goes back to the HoI girls without any logical reason it will be disappointing because it will mean that porn trumps story in this game too. I'm one of those weirdos who likes to choose who the MC fucks and a good story over sex scenes.

However, it is WAY too early to know any of that. I will wait and see when the second update is released. Until then I will hold out hope.

 

[v1900]

Yeah, I read some of your posts. I respect your opinion, but was surprised at your animosity towards the sorority house girls. I just don't see how any of this is their fault, as I don't think they would be involved in the decision to reject the mc for the new job position. I kind of understand your dislike for Reina, since she has authority. But even with her, I'm holding back judgement because we don't actually see the conversation between her and Cassie about the mc. Certainly, I have a lot of love for June. At this point, she is a close second behind Kindra for me.

It is not their fault but they get fucked by association. It is a somewhat common occurrence in real life, from interpersonal relations to business relations. Think of it as a sort of preventive mechanism. Some users (including me) will steer clear of them because it is what we would do in real life (it is just a game but that is part of the immersion). Imagine that it is real life and think of the following.

Consider the House of Ink as part of an urban tribe, where the leader is Reina, she owns the building where they live and also has extended control over their livelihood (she is the investor for their enterprises). You are an outsider that was trampled over by their leader so the logical reaction is to steer clear of them because you have no standing with any of them, not even the bartender (June?). You can see she is reserved during the interview scene, not because she is a bad friend but because it appears her loyalty is with Reina. It is not like any of us like to go around forcing ourselves into random groups that differ from our core values (scratch that, I just described the internet).

Lets pretend that in real life you spent half your life inhaling cat piss (search for toxoplasma gondii behavioral differences) and you are dead set on headbutting your way into the panties of the House of Ink. In real life scenarios to take over a social group, a business or society you have to first eliminate the leader then the competent members and the rabble that is left is the one that you can use. Returning to the fantasy world of the VN (lets not kill them that would be wasteful) you would dominate Reina (make her your bitch) and any of the girls that work directly with Reina and you salvage a relation with any of the girls that are semi independent from Reina (the bartender comes to mind).

So that is pretty much why we would steer clear of them and what would it take to make them a viable option, according to my twisted inner voice.

 

[pochops]

It is not their fault but they get fucked by association. It is a somewhat common occurrence in real life, from interpersonal relations to business relations. Think of it as a sort of preventive mechanism. Some users (including me) will steer clear of them because it is what we would do in real life (it is just a game but that is part of the immersion). Imagine that it is real life and think of the following.

Consider the House of Ink as part of an urban tribe, where the leader is Reina, she owns the building where they live and also has extended control over their livelihood (she is the investor for their enterprises). You are an outsider that was trampled over by their leader so the logical reaction is to steer clear of them because you have no standing with any of them, not even the bartender (June?). You can see she is reserved during the interview scene, not because she is a bad friend but because it appears her loyalty is with Reina. It is not like any of us like to go around forcing ourselves into random groups that differ from our core values (scratch that, I just described the internet).

Lets pretend that in real life you spent half your life inhaling cat piss (search for toxoplasma gondii behavioral differences) and you are dead set on headbutting your way into the panties of the House of Ink. In real life scenarios to take over a social group, a business or society you have to first eliminate the leader then the competent members and the rabble that is left is the one that you can use. Returning to the fantasy world of the VN (lets not kill them that would be wasteful) you would dominate Reina (make her your bitch) and any of the girls that work directly with Reina and you salvage a relation with any of the girls that are semi independent from Reina (the bartender comes to mind).

So that is pretty much why we would steer clear of them and what would it take to make them a viable option, according to my twisted inner voice.

Without getting too deep into this, the mc's behavior towards June was abysmal, or unprofessional at best. Years ago, when I was starting my career, a friend referred me to a position that it looked like I was a lock to get. When I was unexpectedly rejected, I didn't throw my phone away in a fit and pout, and I certainly didn't blame my friend. Instead, I picked up that same phone and called him to thank him for the referral and for thinking of me. I agree the mc has no real attachment to the other girls, but I'll be somewhat disappointed if he doesn't apologize to June for his rude, immature behavior towards her.

 

[v1900]

Without getting too deep into this, the mc's behavior towards June was abysmal, or unprofessional at best. Years ago, when I was starting my career, a friend referred me to a position that it looked like I was a lock to get. When I was unexpectedly rejected, I didn't throw my phone away in a fit and pout, and I certainly didn't blame my friend. Instead, I picked up that same phone and called him to thank him for the referral and for thinking of me. I agree the mc has no real attachment to the other girls, but I'll be somewhat disappointed if he doesn't apologize to June for his rude, immature behavior towards her.

That I won't dispute, but well that is another topic for another post. I am off to cook something.

 

[CrazyRabbit]

I see your point, but I just have zero anger towards the other girls at this point. By the way, it's hard to reach someone to apologize when the mc throws his phone away in a fit, and nobody has any idea where he currently lives. As of now, all my hatred is laser-focused on Cassandra.

I can understand why you'd blame only Cassandra ; but even if I try to be as objective as possible, I can't not blame Reina :

Meaning, Reina had intel from Cassandra, one of her biggest clients, that MC was a liar, unreliable (or anything else she could've said). Reina, not wanting to take a risk for her company, reject the MC, fair enough (even though June vouched for him, bitch didn't had any proof and MC just did her and the girls a solid).
And only know, thanks to Kindra, does she see she was wrong, fine.

But even if MC could potentially forgive her for putting the word of her client before MC's and doing what seemed best for her company ; the fact is that the bitch is deeply connected to Reina and her company, and the bitch is toxic for him ; and by association, so is Reina and her enterprise, and the house with the girls. (even though June is bae)
So no matter what, Reina pretty much killed (at least for me) any interest MC could have had with the job, especially given the cliffhanger.

Exactly, the MC was a warm body. Technically, that should be all he is to them (and vice versa) except for June, who is a friend. The HoI ladies are not people the MC has any emotional investment in nor do they have any with him. Besides being fuck partners there's no real compelling reason for them in the game, so far. It is still really early. The first episode was well written and had good reasons for a lot of what happened, if the MC immediately goes back to the HoI girls without any logical reason it will be disappointing because it will mean that porn trumps story in this game too. I'm one of those weirdos who likes to choose who the MC fucks and a good story over sex scenes.

However, it is WAY too early to know any of that. I will wait and see when the second update is released. Until then I will hold out hope.

Yep, I do hope we'll have the choice to either not forgive or take all the time we want to forgive (even at the cost of some sex scenes)
I too value a good story and well written characters over sex, those are rare and always the best part.

 

[pochops]

I can understand why you'd blame only Cassandra ; but even if I try to be as objective as possible, I can't not blame Reina :

Meaning, Reina had intel from Cassandra, one of her biggest clients, that MC was a liar, unreliable (or anything else she could've said). Reina, not wanting to take a risk for her company, reject the MC, fair enough (even though June vouched for him, bitch didn't had any proof and MC just did her and the girls a solid).
And only know, thanks to Kindra, does she see she was wrong, fine.

But even if MC could potentially forgive her for putting the word of her client before MC's and doing what seemed best for her company ; the fact is that the bitch is deeply connected to Reina and her company, and the bitch is toxic for him ; and by association, so is Reina and her enterprise, and the house with the girls. (even though June is bae)
So no matter what, Reina pretty much killed (at least for me) any interest MC could have had with the job, especially given the cliffhanger.



Yep, I do hope we'll have the choice to either not forgive or take all the time we want to forgive (even at the cost of some sex scenes)
I too value a good story and well written characters over sex, those are rare and always the best part.

I understand where you're coming from, but "guilty by association" is not necessarily enough to stop my horny ass from fucking these girls. By the way, I didn't say I'm not blaming Reina. I said I'm reserving judgement on her until I see more of the content and context of her conversation with Cassandra. We don't yet know the details of what specifically led her to reject the mc. I may end up hating Reina, or I may end up fucking the shit out of her. We'll see.

 

[CrazyRabbit]

I understand where you're coming from, but "guilty by association" is not necessarily enough to stop my horny ass from fucking these girls. By the way, I didn't say I'm not blaming Reina. I said I'm reserving judgement on her until I see more of the content and context of her conversation with Cassandra. We don't yet know the details of what specifically led her to reject the mc. I may end up hating Reina, or I may end up fucking the shit out of her. We'll see.

Understandable, and I do hope you'll have a great time "farming the dungeon"
And a great time when maybe fucking the loving ink out of Reina

As for me, maybe befriending Reina if she apologize ; but with Kindra, the Doc, June and maybe Artemis, we'll see if she's best girl material ; Reina will have less chance than the remote vs Koko

 

[dolfe67]

You know the house is not in the game only for chapter 1, the MC will reconnect with them. We can disagree on how though, but I'm not resentful of anyone except Cassandra, and hope to see them in chapter 2

 

[MrFriendly]

As for me, maybe befriending Reina if she apologize ; but with Kindra, the Doc, June and maybe Artemis, we'll see if she's best girl material ; Reina will have less chance than the remote vs Koko

Yeah, that's the issue with this game (and a few others). Too many LI right off the bat. We have so many to pick from and when you look at them I don't see Reina or the HoI as favorably as I see Kindra, the Doc, or Artemis (no idea when that will be a viable option). I'm hopeful this will be either a harem optional OR a pick and choose harem situation. I don't want to be forced to have the MC fuck everyone.

You know the house is not in the game only for chapter 1, the MC will reconnect with them. We can disagree on how though, but I'm not resentful of anyone except Cassandra, and hope to see them in chapter 2

Yes, and I think it's fine if the MC eventually reconnects with them. I just don't want the MC to quickly move on and forgive everyone and be best friends with them all. I hope there's a route where the MC can be a friend and nothing more.

 

[ExDeath730]

Huh, it's interesting to see that i wasn't the only one who found the whole "House of Ink" thing the weakest part of the game so far. I guess it's because it's such a "porn game" way of introducing a lot of fuckdolls to the VN that it just don't fit too well with the almost "Cyberpunk" feeling this game can evoke. I hope that the dev scrap the entire sorority bullshit and just make the girls be part of Reina's company and... That we don't get to work there.

I've said before in ths thread that for me, Reina did the right thing for her company with the information she was given, but that doesn't mean, that i, as the mc have to be nice, forgive or even care about her or her company.

About June, i do agree that she doesn't deserve hate. She tried her best and in the end of the day, the decision was never hers, but i do think we should be wary of her and every member of the HOI from now on. Maybe it's time for the MC to grow up.

 

[MrFriendly]

Huh, it's interesting to see that i wasn't the only one who found the whole "House of Ink" thing the weakest part of the game so far. I guess it's because it's such a "porn game" way of introducing a lot of fuckdolls to the VN that it just don't fit too well with the almost "Cyberpunk" feeling this game can evoke. I hope that the dev scrap the entire sorority bullshit and just make the girls be part of Reina's company and... That we don't get to work there.

Up until the blowjob competition introduction to the House of Ink this was my favorite debut in a long time - porn game or not. The MC wasn't a pushover but he also wasn't a raging asshole who used people. Two of the most common main character prototypes in these games. He was a mostly well rounded character who was down on his luck.

Then with the HoI we get the mandatory lewd bits, the screaming blindfolded nude cowering on the floor scene, and it didn't feel nearly as strong as the rest of the game. The sorority feels like an attempt to appeal to fans of Being a DIK or other college themed games with a bevy of women. All of which could have just been Reina's employees and friends of June's. The MC could have just attended a party and bumped into Reina, encountering a potential hire in a social setting before an interview is about as awkward as it needed to be.

I've said before in ths thread that for me, Reina did the right thing for her company with the information she was given, but that doesn't mean, that i, as the mc have to be nice, forgive or even care about her or her company.

About June, i do agree that she doesn't deserve hate. She tried her best and in the end of the day, the decision was never hers, but i do think we should be wary of her and every member of the HOI from now on. Maybe it's time for the MC to grow up.

I agree, Reina did the smart thing and didn't hire someone that would cause a problem with a large client. Cassandra is a partner in a powerful company, even if she told them not to hire him because he was the devil in disguise, it doesn't matter you don't hire someone who will cause problems for you. And I am sure that Cassandra would tell as many companies as she can not to do business with Reina.

June gets some flack because she tried to help out two of her friends and the most vulnerable of the two got burned bad. Should he hold it against her forever? No, but he is right to be angry.

 

[imoutolover]

I can understand why you'd blame only Cassandra ; but even if I try to be as objective as possible, I can't not blame Reina :

Meaning, Reina had intel from Cassandra, one of her biggest clients, that MC was a liar, unreliable (or anything else she could've said). Reina, not wanting to take a risk for her company, reject the MC, fair enough (even though June vouched for him, bitch didn't had any proof and MC just did her and the girls a solid).
And only know, thanks to Kindra, does she see she was wrong, fine.

But even if MC could potentially forgive her for putting the word of her client before MC's and doing what seemed best for her company ; the fact is that the bitch is deeply connected to Reina and her company, and the bitch is toxic for him ; and by association, so is Reina and her enterprise, and the house with the girls. (even though June is bae)
So no matter what, Reina pretty much killed (at least for me) any interest MC could have had with the job, especially given the cliffhanger.



Yep, I do hope we'll have the choice to either not forgive or take all the time we want to forgive (even at the cost of some sex scenes)
I too value a good story and well written characters over sex, those are rare and always the best part.

Couldn't agree more about the job, also the reasoning for him not getting the job being completely based solely off of Cassandra. We also must not forget that she also didn't give him a chance to explain, nor give him the reason why she decided against hiring him during the phone conversation. I'm looking forward to the next chapter.

p.s. He won't need the job anyways since he will be working on Artemis with Kindra. *mic drop* ;P

 

[Malicre]

Huh, it's interesting to see that i wasn't the only one who found the whole "House of Ink" thing the weakest part of the game so far. I guess it's because it's such a "porn game" way of introducing a lot of fuckdolls to the VN that it just don't fit too well with the almost "Cyberpunk" feeling this game can evoke. I hope that the dev scrap the entire sorority bullshit and just make the girls be part of Reina's company and... That we don't get to work there.

You're more then likely not going to work there anyways given what we saw at the end of ch1. The MC and Kindra said something along the lines "Move over TWR, It's our time now" meaning that Artemis will probably have a shared meaning, the new company name and the Artemis AI name. The company they form may eventually partner with TWR but i doubt the MC will ever work for them now.

 

[B00G1E]

First off love the intro so far and although i hate Cassiebitch with every fibre of my being (which is hard as Young miss daddario is damned fine) the way she keeps on trying to beat down the MC actually makes sense if you take into account the very human trait of guilt transference we know we did something really bad but our own self centeredness wont allow us to back down until it is waaaaayyyy to late can she be redeemed ... hell no she should rot in the deepest pit of hell i just hope how she goes down is very painful for her, i can also understand how the MC reacted to all the girls when he just walked out and threw his phone down the mountain the girls however deserve a hearing before dumping except maybe reina any intelligent boss worth their salt wouldn't take any advice given to them at face value no matter who it came from her reaction imo was too knee jerk and didn't really fit with a successful career minded woman anyway that's my 2 cents can't wait for the next chapter.

 

[Hrk19]

so the discord invite on the first page is invalid, anyone got a valid one?

 

[maximus_841]

so the discord invite on the first page is invalid, anyone got a valid one?

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[humbaraci]

Only Chapter 1, 89 rewiews so far, 4.5 stars. I'm gonna download it right now.

 

[Malicre]

Mmmmm that new Artemis development log, that's some good stuff right there.

 

[m4pII]

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_Artemis Development Log
Happy Monday!
This was a busy week as I focused on lewd scenes. I sort of got a little carried away with a blowie scene and I overestimated the abilities the animation PC. Calculating the render time, it's going to take 5 days to complete on a 3060 card. It's a 31 second loop that has more than just head bobbing going on. So it's a good animation, however it has me rethinking my future animations. For now at least, until I can procure more equipment. Kind of unfortunate, since I had a good animation planned for DJ Kink. But just means its back to the drawing board with her scene. That said, the other lewd animations are about 9-10 second loops, so you can still expect good animations of course. Just the lengths have to be tamed.
Speaking of DJ Kink, I got her tour bus this week and it's looking amazing. I still need to replace some emblems and logos. But I'm loving it overall. Again, thanks everyone for funding purchases like this.

I'll be shopping around for more food assets this week. There are three story related scenes where you hangout/meet with LIs. As well as two optional hangout/meets. It's up to you if you want it to call it a date or just hanging out, depending on your choices. While on the subject of LIs, Artemis is an LI however her mechanic is going to be much different as it relates to the core story. It's going to take some finesse to bring her into the story without waiting 20 twenty chapters (no, it won't be 20 chapters lol). A good Mark Twain quote is Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. So, over the next few chapters I'll be utilizing that quote to bring her to life. That said, MC will be building his relationships in the meantime. Whether you make them serious relationships, FWB, or just good friends. That's up to you.

Since I focused mostly on animations this week, the story renders only bumped to 1,682. However, I'll be back on track with the story renders this week. So you can expect to see the preview renders continue. I also worked on the script more as well as added notes for CH3. Additionally, I moved one scene from CH2 to CH3. So only 10 scenes remain until I'm finished with story renders.
Have an amazing week everyone!
digi.B

 

[Tkoyama]

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_Artemis Development Log
Happy Monday!
This was a busy week as I focused on lewd scenes. I sort of got a little carried away with a blowie scene and I overestimated the abilities the animation PC. Calculating the render time, it's going to take 5 days to complete on a 3060 card. It's a 31 second loop that has more than just head bobbing going on. So it's a good animation, however it has me rethinking my future animations. For now at least, until I can procure more equipment. Kind of unfortunate, since I had a good animation planned for DJ Kink. But just means its back to the drawing board with her scene. That said, the other lewd animations are about 9-10 second loops, so you can still expect good animations of course. Just the lengths have to be tamed.
Speaking of DJ Kink, I got her tour bus this week and it's looking amazing. I still need to replace some emblems and logos. But I'm loving it overall. Again, thanks everyone for funding purchases like this.

I'll be shopping around for more food assets this week. There are three story related scenes where you hangout/meet with LIs. As well as two optional hangout/meets. It's up to you if you want it to call it a date or just hanging out, depending on your choices. While on the subject of LIs, Artemis is an LI however her mechanic is going to be much different as it relates to the core story. It's going to take some finesse to bring her into the story without waiting 20 twenty chapters (no, it won't be 20 chapters lol). A good Mark Twain quote is Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. So, over the next few chapters I'll be utilizing that quote to bring her to life. That said, MC will be building his relationships in the meantime. Whether you make them serious relationships, FWB, or just good friends. That's up to you.

Since I focused mostly on animations this week, the story renders only bumped to 1,682. However, I'll be back on track with the story renders this week. So you can expect to see the preview renders continue. I also worked on the script more as well as added notes for CH3. Additionally, I moved one scene from CH2 to CH3. So only 10 scenes remain until I'm finished with story renders.
Have an amazing week everyone!
digi.B

It sounds very veeeeery awesome!