Just a heads up. I did a clean install, and it resolved the Rings issue and the eternal Jenga "issue," HOWEVER, the image in the shower, still offset as in the picture I sent you. I will keep digging, playing, maybe move to a whole separate computer and see if I can get more to the bottom of it. In the meantime, nothing new except for the "Images missing" comments, which I will leave out unless it is something like the Back alley menu image where it shows the filename as missing inside the actual game, not just "there is no picture for this part of the game."
I guess any suggestions will help, even if I don't actually get involved in doing anything about them.
We've already got a post I put together of suggestions that anyone can consider adding to or even working with, although I'm not considering writing any 'new stuff' or extra content - just 'tweaks'
Right - for the first one if I understand you right - then Yes, her iris's are just clones of the original iris shifted down/across & I tried to 'make' them a full iris by cloning other bits of the original eye
No pressure on suggestions, just throwing it out there.
Did I miss a linked file for the anti-cheat patch? I saw code in the post...would I need to do some copy paste that could break things? Let me know.
Also...I was going to download your edits and make edits on top of them, but even though it lists them as .png, when I downloaded them it was a weird filetype I have never worked with. Could I get a zip of the PNGs in case I cannot solve that little issue too?
Honestly, my interpretation what probably happened:
- Gord has vague ideas how to improve BSC.
- They start optimisticly, thinking it shouldn't take too long to improve.
- They notice any change is hard (something silly as fixing the music took something like 3 hours of time divided between me and FoxyTails in research / fixing / testing), and to write a scene you click through in 5 minutes, it takes an hour to write.
- At first they figured they could produce a new version in a month, now they find out it'd take half a year at least.
- They lose interest, but feel bad admitting that they bit off more than they could chew.
- They delete their account as they don't have many posts anyway.
Speaking from experience here: the only way I was able to help FuzzyBunny23 clean up/modularize some of the code in his original RenPy port (that this version is based on) was the fact that COVID was happening and I could devote multiple hours per day going through the code. Trying to make any non-trivial update to this game is a huge project, whether you're attempting an "I can code this better" rewrite or you're just trying to pick up the torch from where it's been dropped.
My original intent was to do a first pass to make it easier for FB23 to focus on writing (and not having to remember 40 different stat combinations and how to check game state), and then while he and others worked on content I would work on a complete overhaul of the code so that story expansion could be done separately from adding/tweaking game mechanics. I feel like I mildly succeeded at the first part (in that FB23 was able to do a couple of decent updates based on the refactored codebase, and then Novilon was able to continue from there)... but that was such an undertaking that afterward I had neither the time nor energy to follow through with the overhaul.
I agree that SWP is taking the approach most likely to succeed -- narrow focus, promise little, deliver when you're ready.
Regarding Cheats, I personally, believe keeping them as they are is best. Leave it to each individual player to decide if they want to cheat or not. I know I do... granted only for the Money & Energy but still I'm a cheater. I'm here for the porn/role play/story not to grind or manage energy.
Regarding Cheats, I personally, believe keeping them as they are is best. Leave it to each individual player to decide if they want to cheat or not. I know I do... granted only for the Money & Energy but still I'm a cheater. I'm here for the porn/role play/story not to grind or manage energy.
All I can see is her ears being backwards now x.x
I have ruined so many images for myself.
Also I thinks its great that this chat has kinda blown up with some solid teamwork and discussion. Ive been checking in on it regularly for so long and it rarely was updated. Now I think it's grown 10 pages of comments in just the last couple weeks.
Finally Updated to v0.3.1. I will be switching to maybe releasing new updates on the weekends only. Exception might be made for small bug fixes.
Once again, I wasted way too many hours remaking the game screen.
Fixed some bugs with the Cream sprite not properly being replaced according to the preferences.
Ordering Pizza now actually costs money. Updated the Credits Screen.
Willy Wonka finally returned from his chocolate factory.
Increased maximum hunger to 5
Decreased minimum hunger to -5
Mall, Park, and Movies Activities now decrease hunger bar
Running out of energy outside now have a devastating consequences.
Didn't really tested this update. Might have bugs.
Hello, guys. All these discussion about BSC has finally force me to try my hands at remaking BSC. Mostly simplifying some of the codes and making it easier for maintaining. Haven't actually touch much of the actual events though.
I did include some fixes that has been suggested here before. Like constant main music, making sure all activities in the city to actually pass the time, actually closing the mall at 1800 hours and etc. I also changed the default amount of time passed for an event from 2 hours to 30 minutes.
I've also added an option to use the new AI character sprites made by Shadow Word: Porn or stick with the old one in the Preferences. The new sprites do not currently replaces all the old sprites.
I do need some feedbacks and suggestions with what else to do with this "remake". I was thinking of overhauling the stats systems cause I feel like there is way too many stats to keep track of. Not sure. What do you guys think?
PLEASE POST ANY BUGS THAT YOU ENCOUNTER. I WILL FIX THEM IN THE NEXT UPDATE.
Some items already have a use (ie camera) but I thought stuff like the 'toggle rain' cheat was relevant for having the camera since there's a good chance it WON'T rain during the 7 days, but you could still see the event before time ran out
Does that actually happen? From what I can see in the coding, It will always rain on Day 5 and a 20% chance of rain one of the days between 2 and 6 (exclusing 5) which is randomly determined at NEW GAME.
Think I've come up with a way to extend 7 days to 2 weeks using 1 of the unused items which also include a (small) rewrite of a bit of existing unused content (MochiMochi_2)
Is this still a popular demand? I would've thought changing the default time passing for events from 2 hours to 30 minutes would have been enough. Well, if it is I'll consider adding your code in next update.
I have a question however anyway you can add the Willy Wonka quote back when you get caught that was my favorite part was making yourself lose and you hear Willy say you get nothing you lose
I noticed you've duped some of the new ones, I assume SWP is either having trouble getting duplicate images but with 'eyes down' or it's just not possible.
I'm no expert in art packages but a little about layers & cloning so attempted a couple of 'eyes down' edits
Opinions anyone ?? .. & yeah I DO know the eyes don't really look right
Could be. I didn't really have any other choice than to just follow with what I got.
Cream dress ok eyes down and cream panty1 angry eyes down seems pretty good I would like to add them in. Though I can't seem to download the pictures. I keep getting error saying unsupported type.
On the other hand, her irises looks like it got cutoff a bit at the top for cream dress sultry eyes down.png. And for cream panty1 curious eyes down.png, I think rather than making an eyes down version, maybe make an eyes up version? Cause she kinda looks like she's already looking downward.
Also, from talking to SWP, they might be planning to replace all the generated AI art as it was "made on obsolete models with obsolete skills."
So any edits to the current AI sprites might become moot in the future.
Just a heads up. I did a clean install, and it resolved the Rings issue and the eternal Jenga "issue," HOWEVER, the image in the shower, still offset as in the picture I sent you. I will keep digging, playing, maybe move to a whole separate computer and see if I can get more to the bottom
Nice. Also, no need to keep looking. I've replaced the original SWP version with yours. so now both are shown in truecenter and there won't be any shifting anymore. Though, I think you need to edit the event cream showering.png a bit because her legs is actually still has a small cutoff. You can see it if you got to the scene and hide the text box. There's no problem with event cream shower surprised.png tho.
Regarding Cheats, I personally, believe keeping them as they are is best. Leave it to each individual player to decide if they want to cheat or not. I know I do... granted only for the Money & Energy but still I'm a cheater. I'm here for the porn/role play/story not to grind or manage energy.
I'm personally leaning on keeping the status quo. When I used to play BSC I usually get the 1000 energy and constantly set time to morning to see all the events on Day 1. Blasphemous? Probably. Obsessive? Definitely. Fun? Yup.
I am still open to maybe changing it tho. Maybe to lock it behind NG+ or something.
Finally Updated to v0.3.1. I will be switching to maybe releasing new updates on the weekends only. Exception might be made for small bug fixes.
Once again, I wasted way too many hours remaking the game screen.
Fixed some bugs with the Cream sprite not properly being replaced according to the preferences.
Ordering Pizza now actually costs money. Updated the Credits Screen.
Willy Wonka finally returned from his chocolate factory.
Increased maximum hunger to 5
Decreased minimum hunger to -5
Mall, Park, and Movies Activities now decrease hunger bar
Running out of energy outside now have a devastating consequences.
Didn't really tested this update. Might have bugs.
Does that actually happen? From what I can see in the coding, It will always rain on Day 5 and a 20% chance of rain one of the days between 2 and 6 (exclusing 5) which is randomly determined at NEW GAME.
Is this still a popular demand? I would've thought changing the default time passing for events from 2 hours to 30 minutes would have been enough. Well, if it is I'll consider adding your code in next update.
I've re-added Willy back
Could be. I didn't really have any other choice than to just follow with what I got.
Cream dress ok eyes down and cream panty1 angry eyes down seems pretty good I would like to add them in. Though I can't seem to download the pictures. I keep getting error saying unsupported type.
On the other hand, her irises looks like it got cutoff a bit at the top for cream dress sultry eyes down.png. And for cream panty1 curious eyes down.png, I think rather than making an eyes down version, maybe make an eyes up version? Cause she kinda looks like she's already looking downward.
Also, from talking to SWP, they might be planning to replace all the generated AI art as it was "made on obsolete models with obsolete skills."
So any edits to the current AI sprites might become moot in the future.
Nice. Also, no need to keep looking. I've replaced the original SWP version with yours. so now both are shown in truecenter and there won't be any shifting anymore. Though, I think you need to edit the event cream showering.png a bit because her legs is actually still has a small cutoff. You can see it if you got to the scene and hide the text box. There's no problem with event cream shower surprised.png tho.
I'm personally leaning on keeping the status quo. When I used to play BSC I usually get the 1000 energy and constantly set time to morning to see all the events on Day 1. Blasphemous? Probably. Obsessive? Definitely. Fun? Yup.
I am still open to maybe changing it tho. Maybe to lock it behind NG+ or something.
Okay I found out what to do but there's a lot to do so first get your morality with her to negative 9 so just call her a button masher cheater a few times then you can take her bikini top now you can also dominate tails but it requires more work so after you get her bikini top you have to get her relationship to at least 375 or higher and then do board games to get her to take of her dress then you have to get your morality back to negative 15 as it probably when back up while trying to get her relationship up now don't call her a button masher cheater because you will lose your relationship with cream instead you want to go swimming with her repeatedly give her top back then take it away again and again and again then once at negative 15 you can dominate tails and will take about 4 days or at least it did the way I did it and if you don't have your relationship high with cream she will just grab a t shirt when tails comes over and if your mortality is too low tails won't call you a bad babysitter
By the way, can I just say SWP's art is phenomenal?
If he considers that art with obsolete models and obsolete skills, wow
One thing, I notice that this part is missing from options.rpy,
define gui.about = _p("This game is based on the original \"Babysitting Cream\" from Aval0nX, and on Protofan's unofficial Ren'Py port of the last-known version of Aval0nX's game, the 2013 Flash-based \"dealwithit\" version.\n\nDevelopment of this expanded-and-revised version was originally started in 2020 by FuzzyBunny23, inspired by Protofan's port, and is being continued by the BSC Dev Crew in his absence. While it is not yet complete, it contains updated text, new/modified scenes, new sounds, animations, and more images, and (hopefully) will continue to be extended until completion.")
define gui.about = _p("""This game is based on the original {a=
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}"Babysitting Cream" from Aval0nX{/a}, which was adapted by Protofan into an unofficial Ren'Py port.
Development of this expanded-and-revised version was originally started in 2020 by FuzzyBunny23, continued by Novilon, and finally picked up by Xaverion. In addition to numerous code fixes (see changelogs.txt), it contains new AI-generated images from Shadowword: Porn.""")
Does that actually happen? From what I can see in the coding, It will always rain on Day 5 and a 20% chance of rain one of the days between 2 and 6 (exclusing 5) which is randomly determined at NEW GAME.
yes it does, but 'maybe' the cheaters want to see this event earlier
Is this still a popular demand? I would've thought changing the default time passing for events from 2 hours to 30 minutes would have been enough. Well, if it is I'll consider adding your code in next update.
Maybe not as relevant now that times are reduced, but being able to extend the 7 days does open possibilities....
NEW special day events could happen - e.g a parcel arrives at the house for Vanilla / it's packaging is damaged / do you have a peek or not / yes / see sex toys like remote vibrating buttplug - you've got 'anal play' with Cream achievement.....well imagine what could happen at the Mall
Also there was a suggestion IIRC that IF time is extended then you get a better chance on random events - eg Meeting Amy between day 2 to 6 has ~40% chance of happening in week 1, maybe up this to 60-70% for week 2 ?
Code:
if renpy.random.randint(1,10) >= 6 and day.between(2,6):
jump .Amy_Park1
elif renpy.random.randint(1,10) >= 4 and day.between(8,14):
jump .Amy_Park1
Incidentally, looks like I forgot to add 'special day events' to 2nd week giving players a chance to get those if they missed them the first time round, so in 'vanilla.rpy' line 33>45 need to add 'or day.num ==' to each line
Cream dress ok eyes down and cream panty1 angry eyes down seems pretty good I would like to add them in. Though I can't seem to download the pictures. I keep getting error saying unsupported type.
Weird - anyway the zip attach contains my modified versions - hope you have better luck
And for cream panty1 curious eyes down.png, I think rather than making an eyes down version, maybe make an eyes up version? Cause she kinda looks like she's already looking downward.
does she ??
Looking 'up' to me looks as though she's looking at the player while 'down' she's looking at below the belt line
& yeah the eyes are 'clipped' in that other pic
Attempted tweaking those pics using a full iris from 'cream dress scared' - see which you prefer
Development of this expanded-and-revised version was originally started in 2020 by FuzzyBunny23, continued by Novilon, and finally picked up by Xaverion. In addition to numerous code fixes (see changelogs.txt), it contains new AI-generated images from Shadowword: Porn.
All I can see is her ears being backwards now x.x
I have ruined so many images for myself.
Also I thinks its great that this chat has kinda blown up with some solid teamwork and discussion. Ive been checking in on it regularly for so long and it rarely was updated. Now I think it's grown 10 pages of comments in just the last couple weeks.
Finally Updated to v0.3.1. I will be switching to maybe releasing new updates on the weekends only. Exception might be made for small bug fixes.
Once again, I wasted way too many hours remaking the game screen.
Fixed some bugs with the Cream sprite not properly being replaced according to the preferences.
Ordering Pizza now actually costs money. Updated the Credits Screen.
Willy Wonka finally returned from his chocolate factory.
Increased maximum hunger to 5
Decreased minimum hunger to -5
Mall, Park, and Movies Activities now decrease hunger bar
Running out of energy outside now have a devastating consequences.
Didn't really tested this update. Might have bugs.
I can get behind this, it also allows time for testing. I had not even functionally gotten out of days 1 and 2 in the last version testing between needing to clean install and checking whether saves broke, and trying NOT to skip things in the early game for testing purposes.
Does that actually happen? From what I can see in the coding, It will always rain on Day 5 and a 20% chance of rain one of the days between 2 and 6 (exclusing 5) which is randomly determined at NEW GAME.
Unable to determine. Assumed no...It has been a LONG time since i have seen a random rain day...I have only seen the consistent day 5 since that change as far as I am aware.
Is this still a popular demand? I would've thought changing the default time passing for events from 2 hours to 30 minutes would have been enough. Well, if it is I'll consider adding your code in next update.
I still think it should happen. It makes for the gameplay to be able to be more relaxed in going after achievements/items, not trying to cram EVERYTHING into one day, not worrying about time lost at the beach instead of a whole days worth of activities, and leaves the door open for more content, and thus, in a way lessens the NEED to cheat to get to what you want, unless your only purpose is speed.
Cream dress ok eyes down and cream panty1 angry eyes down seems pretty good I would like to add them in. Though I can't seem to download the pictures. I keep getting error saying unsupported type.
On the other hand, her irises looks like it got cutoff a bit at the top for cream dress sultry eyes down.png. And for cream panty1 curious eyes down.png, I think rather than making an eyes down version, maybe make an eyes up version? Cause she kinda looks like she's already looking downward.
Also, from talking to SWP, they might be planning to replace all the generated AI art as it was "made on obsolete models with obsolete skills."
So any edits to the current AI sprites might become moot in the future.
I was having the same problem...hence the asking for a zip with the PNGs to work from. Thats the main one I was gonna tinker with. Moot or not...they are enjoyable for the time being, way better IMHO than the original artwork, and SWP deserves more
Nice. Also, no need to keep looking. I've replaced the original SWP version with yours. so now both are shown in truecenter and there won't be any shifting anymore. Though, I think you need to edit the event cream showering.png a bit because her legs is actually still has a small cutoff. You can see it if you got to the scene and hide the text box. There's no problem with event cream shower surprised.png tho.
I did not even know you could hide the text box until all this discussion, so I did not do so after my edit...ut wouldn't take much to fix, though, it may be moot from your previous statement. Ill probably fix it for myself since I am OCD and now I will be looking for it...(Thanks for that...) and can make it a "patch" for anyone else if they WANT it...in the meantime...as I have no intention of putting pressure on SWP, though I would like to pick their brain for image creation info, models, program versions, wayts to get the consistent imagery that i have not acheived in my dabblings and the various images I have included here.
Because, as far as the game mechanics are concerned...you are. There is a "morality score." If it is "too high" you are the good guy whether you like it or not and won't steal. I do not know what value it has to be below, just what the mechanic you're missing is.
Speaking of stats...going back here....I actually went into the FAQ and Tutorial after the fresh install to try and eliminate my odd issues that seemed to be just affecting me...and these may or may not accurately/functionally be reflected in code in this descriptive manner...and this is just going from what was put into the Tutorial at whatever stage that was added into the game code.
-RWC is listed as "your" since it's Relationship with Cream, not toward, it is a "Sonic Stat"
-Energy is A "Sonic Stat"
-Happiness is a "Cream Stat"
-Moral Alignment is a "Sonic Stat" -Lust IS a "Sonic Stat" (According to the Tutorial) which I think is silly/inaccurate, as like I said before...Sonic's lust is the player behind the screen's, and it makes more sense that Cream's lust would be a determining factor in what you get to do with her, unless the morality stat gets more use and there is more NC etc. Hell, there could even be 2 lust stats as far as I am concerned if there are functionally relevant reasons to use it...but that's a whole other can-o-worms.
(Edit) -Touch is a "Cream Stat"Re-read that specific part in the tutorial after a feedback comment, and it is Cream's comfortableness with being touched. My bad. Though, I still stand by the following...I might be splitting hairs there...but there are differences between chance touches (No intent/no active pursuit of it) Sonic actively touching, (like through Choices) and Cream Actively touching (After certain stats or events have occurred where she is now comfortable with DOING something for the first time.)
-Peep is a Sonic Stat, "How well you can spy on cream"
-Jerk Off is (Obviously) a "Sonic Stat" by its nature, but the description indicates ability to do so without being caught by or upsetting cream, which interestingly I see as 2 different things....without getting caught is how discreet one can be while doing it...and not upsetting is more her comfort with it if you are "caught" doing it. I see why it was put into one score for a game of this nature of course, but there I go...analyzing things to death again...
-Exposure, This is actually, by my read, a "Cream Stat."The act is Sonic exposing, but the stat increases not because you do that, but based on Cream's comfort with it...It gains points when you are able to without angering or upsetting her, and effects HER willingness to get naked in front of you.
-Hunger is a "Cream Stat"SHE gets unlimited energy, as long as she is fed.
-And of course Time affects all things, so that is a Universal Stat.
Also whoever wrote it even comments that there is a cheat menu, but urges it to not be used unless you simply mean to brute force to the naughty stuff, or get "hopelessly blocked at some point"...I think that lends weight to having it but behind either general play achievements, or a once through to an ending in a NG+ style or SOMETHING other than just...here's everything handed to you on a silver platter. (But you all know I am already biased at this point.)
Someone asked for an android port, and as I had made an android port for Cubsitting Simulator before, it was a small effort to port Xaverion's game to android, and that's what I uploaded to my Mega.
So Xaverion's 'official' versions are for PC only. If I happen to have time when a new version hits, I port it to android and update my Mega, so there will always be a delay.
Maybe not as relevant now that times are reduced, but being able to extend the 7 days does open possibilities....
NEW special day events could happen - e.g a parcel arrives at the house for Vanilla / it's packaging is damaged / do you have a peek or not / yes / see sex toys like remote vibrating buttplug - you've got 'anal play' with Cream achievement.....well imagine what could happen at the Mall
Also there was a suggestion IIRC that IF time is extended then you get a better chance on random events - eg Meeting Amy between day 2 to 6 has ~40% chance of happening in week 1, maybe up this to 60-70% for week 2 ?
Weird - anyway the zip attach contains my modified versions - hope you have better luck
Attempted tweaking those pics using a full iris from 'cream dress scared' - see which you prefer
Nice. Also, no need to keep looking. I've replaced the original SWP version with yours. so now both are shown in truecenter and there won't be any shifting anymore. Though, I think you need to edit the event cream showering.png a bit because her legs is actually still has a small cutoff. You can see it if you got to the scene and hide the text box. There's no problem with event cream shower surprised.png tho.
I see it...its more discreet because the cutoff is behind the black more opaque part, not the orange translucent.Interestingly, I was pretty sure I used exactly the same size image area for both, so they should be in the same spot unless the code aligns them differently. Anyway...I will probably do one more edit of it and then call that quits since the word is all images are likely to be replace anyway.
if you don't have your relationship high with cream she will just grab a t shirt when tails comes over and if your mortality is too low tails won't call you a bad babysitter
That's potentially annoying...I was going to just leverage the fact that you can't go below 0 RWC to use the -100 and just sink the morality for that test playthrough, but if you have to be exactly at 15, (or at least not the lowest -20 "read: too low" from your comment, I hope is a mistake meaning RWC too low, not morality) that makes it even trickier, even if you are/were actively trying to see that more risque content.
That's potentially annoying...I was going to just leverage the fact that you can't go below 0 RWC to use the -100 and just sink the morality for that test playthrough, but if you have to be exactly at 15, (or at least not the lowest -20 "read: too low" from your comment, I hope is a mistake meaning RWC too low, not morality) that makes it even trickier, even if you are/were actively trying to see that more risque content.
