VN Ren'Py Beast Control [v1.7.0] [Kiryuuco]

[rance4747]

Yeah, I try to make it more consistent with the images, but again, AI sucks, it's terrible, and it's a pain to work with.
Starfire's images were made way before I tried to make a consistent style for all the images (It has a warning for those), and I still want to remake them, but again, not enough time.

AI doesnt suck.

Having consistent style is litterally picking an artist style lora from civit ai and adding it near the end of the promt.
For example, i was experimenting with Mittelt from DXD to make emotion sprites for her character card using Pony models on SDforge.
This is base model + character lora + perfect eyes lora results.

This is adding bleedman style lora at the end

And this is switching to one other artist

Finally this is using a mix of several style loras at small procentages (no more than 0.3) after some minor tinkering

Its very much IS possible to make both sfw and porn of any kind while keeping to certain styles or mixes of those no matter what was fed into character loras originally, since the styles mixes will apply over the pictures you generated. And its also very much possible to either find an artist that you like who would agree to let you tinker with his style, is, sadly too dead to care if you do it, or mix several styles to the point where even the artists whose styles were used wont recognize their own style's influence (which is how basically our own brain come up with our personal styles to draw things, minus the fact that we are using much more wast and corrupted sample size.)

In my understanding, if you saved promts, or use a local tool that allows you to work with already existing images while applying your own mix of styles, reworking even a 1k of pics is a matter of 1-2 days of passively cheking if the output is acceptable enough before picking the good stuff and moving to the next pics batch.

 

[Kiryuuco]

AI doesnt suck.

Having consistent style is litterally picking an artist style lora from civit ai and adding it near the end of the promt.
For example, i was experimenting with Mittelt from DXD to make emotion sprites for her character card using Pony models on SDforge.
This is base model + character lora + perfect eyes lora results.
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This is adding bleedman style lora at the end
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And this is switching to one other artist
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Finally this is using a mix of several style loras at small procentages (no more than 0.3) after some minor tinkering
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Its very much IS possible to make both sfw and porn of any kind while keeping to certain styles or mixes of those no matter what was fed into character loras originally, since the styles mixes will apply over the pictures you generated. And its also very much possible to either find an artist that you like who would agree to let you tinker with his style, is, sadly too dead to care if you do it, or mix several styles to the point where even the artists whose styles were used wont recognize their own style's influence (which is how basically our own brain come up with our personal styles to draw things, minus the fact that we are using much more wast and corrupted sample size.)

In my understanding, if you saved promts, or use a local tool that allows you to work with already existing images while applying your own mix of styles, reworking even a 1k of pics is a matter of 1-2 days of passively cheking if the output is acceptable enough before picking the good stuff and moving to the next pics batch.

Oh! I tried similar things, yes.
The problem comes from making the TF Versions of characters, and a lot of scenes, are them interacting with other characters (Specially Beast), and doing sex scenes.

I do a selection of Lora's to try to keep them all "kind of" similar, but yeah, I already do a lot of things you are saying.

 

[CuriousWonder]

Hey, if you have an idea for an game, it's always nice to put it out! Even if it's small, or incomplete.
I mean, Beast Control's first release was what... 4 scenes? Not even that?
And now I'm able to pay to have an artist and a writer on our team, and the game evolved to have more than 40 scenes!


People's first game will hardly be their best, the important is learning from releasing them.
(Also, technically, Beast Control is my first game, but not the first game I worked on, lots of games industry knowledge helped me to create it and plan it's release, thanks to almost 3 years of work as Game QA and a few months of Game Design if you'd believe it. Biggest fun fact I have of my career, is that I worked on a canceled Five Night at Freddie's game as QA.)

If this is reference my hesitation to making a game than I appreciate it. But my biggest issue honestly is the scale of the idea. Imagine a sort of corruption tf game built like a war game. You could either play the hero off to fight the demon Lord or as the demon Lord leading armies that'd turn your enemies into demons that'd serve you.

Although, I did at least make a post about an idea (albeit niche) for a game so that maybe one day someone might see and try it.

Also, the part about you have development experience still is a big jump for a first time development of a game. Like I can't imagine it was easy and personally I think what you made so far is praise worthy. Especially since you're already learning things you can change and trying to act on them with a second game

 

[iamdazed]

By non-furry path you mean not having any animal TF's? Or just "Just animal ears/tail without the furry body"?
In any case, no, the transformation and mix of Humans/Furries are the main thing of the game, so there isn't a 100% human path planned at the moment.

Too bad, game looks good aside from the furry bs.

 

[grenelink]

What a mediocre use of AI, 0 post processing, I recommend the author of this project to take on the team someone who understands AI and has editing tools like Photoshop

 

[Kiryuuco]

If this is reference my hesitation to making a game than I appreciate it. But my biggest issue honestly is the scale of the idea. Imagine a sort of corruption tf game built like a war game. You could either play the hero off to fight the demon Lord or as the demon Lord leading armies that'd turn your enemies into demons that'd serve you.

Although, I did at least make a post about an idea (albeit niche) for a game so that maybe one day someone might see and try it.

Also, the part about you have development experience still is a big jump for a first time development of a game. Like I can't imagine it was easy and personally I think what you made so far is praise worthy. Especially since you're already learning things you can change and trying to act on them with a second game

Yep, that sounds really complex.
Beast Control initially had some sandbox things, and had code written to have a day system/money system, but I scraped it, and decided to have it be a more straight forward Visual Novel, and decided to keep those things for Feral City.

Maybe starting on something smaller might help! But still, it's a great idea for a game, I remember there was one game here with a similar idea, but it got abandoned.

 

[Kiryuuco]

What a mediocre use of AI, 0 post processing, I recommend the author of this project to take on the team someone who understands AI and has editing tools like Photoshop

It already has post processing.
And about hiring someone that "understands" AI.



The idea is to only use AI as a means to secure living and budget to create games without it.
AI already steal enough from artists, the idea of paying money to someone that uses AI is awful to me, I want to steal back from AI, and not give it more money.

 

[Ozorius]

Palmeiras !

NÂO TEM MUNDIAL

 

[•••]

AI doesnt suck.

Having consistent style is litterally picking an artist style lora from civit ai and adding it near the end of the promt.
For example, i was experimenting with Mittelt from DXD to make emotion sprites for her character card using Pony models on SDforge.
This is base model + character lora + perfect eyes lora results.
View attachment 4128028

That consistency is pretty impressive. Would you mind sending me the prompts and other settings you used for this? I've used Civit AI quite a lot and never managed to get it consistent, although I did make a new character (based on an existing one), maybe that doesn't help. Still I'd really appreciate your example!

 

[Tylock42]

To Kiryuuco

I am enjoying this game so far. (you're turning me into an Anthro Cowgirl fan) I wanted to ask, is there is any plans for pregnancy (sex and birth) scenes in future for the cowgirl routes?

 

[Kiryuuco]

To Kiryuuco

I am enjoying this game so far. (you're turning me into an Anthro Cowgirl fan) I wanted to ask, is there is any plans for pregnancy (sex and birth) scenes in future for the cowgirl routes?

Glad you're enjoying the game so far! And you're not the only one, the Patreon is slowly cultivating a Cow Cult.
And for your questions.
For pregnant sex? Yes.
Birth? No.

 

[KrisfromKaos]

NÂO TEM MUNDIAL

Unexpected Brazil Mentioned

 

[Rodric]

Really like the game... Just wish there was a version without pubic and body hair... Big turnoff

 

[Oliz82]

Hello.

It's been a while since I played the game, even more since I left a comment, and I still have mixed feelings.

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Yep!
They were in polls to be added, but sadly, lost the votes to other characters.
But, I still might add them in special/extra scenes, with "shorter" paths.

And as for the last line, Marvel characters might come in the future, but for now, when using Super Heroes, I still want to use DC ones for a while before I open the floodgates of Marvel Characters.
And as Nightwing... he's 100% in the plans, I still want to add more Yaoi/Gay content to the game.

Reading this, I feel like the gay/bi promise is more or less abandoned. I wonder if one day I'll ever see a bi porn game being made.

As for the new game, the first samples were good but the new character isn't that much attractive (probably a question of taste).

Good continuation.

 

[CuriousWonder]

Reading this, I feel like the gay/bi promise is more or less abandoned. I wonder if one day I'll ever see a bi porn game being made.

In regards to the idea of this game being bi sexual has been abandoned, I'd say isn't true. Like in the same run you could have bimbo bunny raven, futa tiger star and Femboy Gwen.

Also, there's all the none canone extra scenes.

Although, if you really in need of game where the character is 100% bi check Warlock and boobs. The Mc gives and takes from both men, women and in between

 

[Oliz82]

Hello.

In regards to the idea of this game being bi sexual has been abandoned, I'd say isn't true. Like in the same run you could have bimbo bunny raven, futa tiger star and Femboy Gwen.

Also, there's all the none canone extra scenes.

Although, if you really in need of game where the character is 100% bi check Warlock and boobs. The Mc gives and takes from both men, women and in between

Thanks, I appreciate the input.
Futa/trans isn't gay, even if many consider it like that because there's a dick. And while I don't mind it, it isn't appealing to me.
Femboys/sissies, while it's gay, don't do it for me since they look too feminine. I may sound old but I want a woman feminine enough and a man masculine enough.

In the extra scenes, there's nothing gay : the only close one is futa on male (futa Raven with femboy Beast).

I don't consider Warlock and Boobs a bi game since there's only one male LI and, from what I read, there's no bi scene (meaning scenes with a man and a woman and the protagonist at the center, leading to : MC fucking the woman while being fucked, MC fucking the man while being pegged, MC fucking the man who himself fucks the woman, plus the diverse foreplays associated). The closer to a bi game I ever played is Spacecorps XXX, though it is still exclusive. There are 2 exceptions : The gardener, limited to one short scene, and World Citizen, very short but the scene chosen is very exciting.

Good continuation.

 

[Kiryuuco]

Hello.

It's been a while since I played the game, even more since I left a comment, and I still have mixed feelings.

Spoiler: Remarks

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Reading this, I feel like the gay/bi promise is more or less abandoned. I wonder if one day I'll ever see a bi porn game being made.

As for the new game, the first samples were good but the new character isn't that much attractive (probably a question of taste).

Good continuation.

Wow, that's a lot of stuff, thanks for the feedback!
Let's see if I can reply to some of them.

1. Gay/Bi Promise.
The way the game works now, it's basically for a scene to be added, it needs to win a Patreon vote.
There have been multiple polls with Gay Options, but they sadly lost (We are getting a Nightwing TF/TG next update, that I would argue it has a gay/bi side).
The plans to make more gay/bi content aren't dead, and I still hope to add more content, specially Beast with another male character that is not a femboy or futa.

'tho, sadly I must say, the plans for Feral City (the 2nd game), at the start it will have 5 Characters with paths, and none of them will be a gay path in the way you want (3 Female Paths, One Female/Futa Path, One Femboy Path).
I am Bi, and want to add masculine men to the game, (I have already the planning of 3 male characters), both me, and our artist want to add a lot of gay sex to the game (I also kind of feel bad for the artist, I made him draw women for almost three months, only this month he's finally been able to draw cocks).

2. Black screens.
They are a way to give the scene a "breather", or give pauses, they are not a bug and they are a tool of telling the story.

3. Starfire Futa Images.
Yep, they are a bug, I have hopes of remaking the Starfire Futa scenes to fix all of that, but remaking those would be a lot of work, which I don't have the time to do it right now.
And yeah, sadly, because of AI, it's hard to make it all the same style or colors, so Beast's skin color is almost changing every image.
As for the typo, it's fixed for the next version! Thanks for the heads up, I always try to proof-read the entire game before updates, but small details like that are easy to miss.

4. Gameplay Loop Problems.
The sleep and other options where starts of making the gameplay loop bigger (I even had the code and files made for a day and night system, and to make it more of a loop).
But when scenes started to get longer, and the writing got way better, I accepted seeing this game as just a normal Visual Novel with multiple choices and little gameplay.

That way, players are still happy with the content (Great different TF scenes with great writing voted by them).
And I can spend more of my time on the gameplay side working on Feral City.

And hey! Our next character art for Feral City will be the main character, hope to see your opinion on him in the future! And thanks for all the feedback.

 

[Kiryuuco]

In regards to the idea of this game being bi sexual has been abandoned, I'd say isn't true. Like in the same run you could have bimbo bunny raven, futa tiger star and Femboy Gwen.

Also, there's all the none canone extra scenes.

Although, if you really in need of game where the character is 100% bi check Warlock and boobs. The Mc gives and takes from both men, women and in between

For me, even the "straight" scenes scratch the gay for me in the game.
Example, the Beast Werewolf scene, even if it ends up with "straight" sex, almost half of it being Beast slowly transforming into a big muscular werewolf already leaves me satisfied.

 

[KrisfromKaos]

I'm straight but like Futa on Male...yeah


But still enjoy the fact that the AI game is use to fund a game with actual art so...it's pretty good

My only wish was Raven actually have a transformation of being...well a Raven of course lol

 

[CuriousWonder]

For me, even the "straight" scenes scratch the gay for me in the game.
Example, the Beast Werewolf scene, even if it ends up with "straight" sex, almost half of it being Beast slowly transforming into a big muscular werewolf already leaves me satisfied.

That's fair. Honestly I enjoy most of the game, it's only really the Femboy bits that aren't my thing but as I've said here before that's just me.

Also, yeah the transformation aspect is really what I like about this most. It's one of those games hitting a specific niche and that's what makes it stand out