L7Bear

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This is a piracy forum. All of the games on here are people's livelihoods. Why engage with the site if it threatens your livelihood?
Oh, I think I can answer that one!
I've never been a game developer, per se, but I wrote for several adult games from 2018 until 2023 (most of my writing was for one game series from 2019 to 2023.) Since I've been out of the business for over a year I should be able to talk freely about this without causing anyone trouble.

Pirate sites (with F95 being the most popular, in my experience) are a double-edged sword.
On the one hand, it's "free" advertising. On the other hand, it's "stolen" content.
Wait, that last one shouldn't be in quotes for most AVNs. While a few post their own games to F95 (especially the free/public first version or two), most find their games getting posted here without their consent. It is stolen content.

However, these are small teams (or even solo projects) who can't afford the fancy DRM that the big studios used.
I say used, because most big publishers have even learned that draconian DRM and anti-piracy measures inevitably screw up and piss off paying customers.
So, you either work with the pirates, or you go out of business.
Yay! Piracy!

But, like I said, it's a double edged sword. There are some benefits to piracy.
Most of the pirates would never buy the game anyway, so that isn't really lost income.
Some of us pirates will reward good games by purchasing them on Steam, donating to their Patreon, or otherwise trying to support the developers. (Alas, too few of us, and most of us don't have the $$$ to support as many or as much as we would like.)
But piracy increases word-of-mouth, so some people will be like "What's this AVN my friends keep talking about?" and do it the right way - buying the game &/or donating to the dev to legally download the game.

But, let's go back to your question. Why engage with a piracy site if it threatens their livelihood?
Well, in this specific case, the Dev was pleading with the people who have a (legal) copy of the game to NOT share it here.
They were engaging with this site specifically to literally say this is their primary source of income and please don't take that away from them.

If you look at their stats (currently 863rd on Adult Games Rank, and over 10k on overall patreon rank) they aren't making a ton of money off this game. This isn't one of the lucky few pulling down over $50k/mo and getting kinda rich. They're currently making about $9.94 per hour (if you assume it's only 40 hours per week) and I'm not sure if that is for a single person or a team of people... before taxes, etc.
So, yeah. It makes sense that they would want to come to this pirate site and ask people not to pirate their game.

However, this is also a forum where people discuss their game, give feedback, report bugs, and such. People rarely post that on patreon, discord, etc. At least not in my experience. So, any smart dev is unfortunately going to want to look at this site and the comments.

I hope that clarifies things a bit for you (and anyone else reading.) I could go on - there's a LOT more to this than I've touched on above - but that should be sufficient to answer your lovely, heartfelt question.

TLDR: Just because you're a pirate doesn't mean you have to be an asshole.
 

Kaeri

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You can try doing a search and replace, but there may be other places where 'toy-' is used that could break something else.

If you want to try to fix it, make sure to backup the game's index.html file first. If you look at the two posts I made (lingerie and vibrator quests), find the second code block for each. You want that, as well as the line number just before it. Find the line number in the index.html file and replace what's there with what's in the code block. Save it, and it should work. If you did something wrong, delete the index.html and replace it with the backup one you did at the start.

If I recall correctly, the dev started doing the naming one way and then switched to another way. During the process not all references were updated to the newer convention.
I tried to do a cleanup for the red lingerie one, but couldn't get it to work no matter what I did. It doesn't help that my file opens up everything as &lt; and &gt; instead of < > even when opening in notepad++. :(
 

TheGodUncle

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Oh, I think I can answer that one!
I've never been a game developer, per se, but I wrote for several adult games from 2018 until 2023 (most of my writing was for one game series from 2019 to 2023.) Since I've been out of the business for over a year I should be able to talk freely about this without causing anyone trouble.

Pirate sites (with F95 being the most popular, in my experience) are a double-edged sword.
On the one hand, it's "free" advertising. On the other hand, it's "stolen" content.
Wait, that last one shouldn't be in quotes for most AVNs. While a few post their own games to F95 (especially the free/public first version or two), most find their games getting posted here without their consent. It is stolen content.

However, these are small teams (or even solo projects) who can't afford the fancy DRM that the big studios used.
I say used, because most big publishers have even learned that draconian DRM and anti-piracy measures inevitably screw up and piss off paying customers.
So, you either work with the pirates, or you go out of business.
Yay! Piracy!

But, like I said, it's a double edged sword. There are some benefits to piracy.
Most of the pirates would never buy the game anyway, so that isn't really lost income.
Some of us pirates will reward good games by purchasing them on Steam, donating to their Patreon, or otherwise trying to support the developers. (Alas, too few of us, and most of us don't have the $$$ to support as many or as much as we would like.)
But piracy increases word-of-mouth, so some people will be like "What's this AVN my friends keep talking about?" and do it the right way - buying the game &/or donating to the dev to legally download the game.

But, let's go back to your question. Why engage with a piracy site if it threatens their livelihood?
Well, in this specific case, the Dev was pleading with the people who have a (legal) copy of the game to NOT share it here.
They were engaging with this site specifically to literally say this is their primary source of income and please don't take that away from them.

If you look at their stats (currently 863rd on Adult Games Rank, and over 10k on overall patreon rank) they aren't making a ton of money off this game. This isn't one of the lucky few pulling down over $50k/mo and getting kinda rich. They're currently making about $9.94 per hour (if you assume it's only 40 hours per week) and I'm not sure if that is for a single person or a team of people... before taxes, etc.
So, yeah. It makes sense that they would want to come to this pirate site and ask people not to pirate their game.

However, this is also a forum where people discuss their game, give feedback, report bugs, and such. People rarely post that on patreon, discord, etc. At least not in my experience. So, any smart dev is unfortunately going to want to look at this site and the comments.

I hope that clarifies things a bit for you (and anyone else reading.) I could go on - there's a LOT more to this than I've touched on above - but that should be sufficient to answer your lovely, heartfelt question.

TLDR: Just because you're a pirate doesn't mean you have to be an asshole.

I'm not going to respond to every single paragraph because I agree with some of them and others aren't really relevant to the point I'm trying to make.

>Some of us pirates will reward good games by purchasing them on Steam, donating to their Patreon, or otherwise trying to support the developers. (Alas, too few of us, and most of us don't have the $$$ to support as many or as much as we would like.)

I know, I've supported multiple games I found through this site. I've even supported this game for multiple months.

>But, let's go back to your question. Why engage with a piracy site if it threatens their livelihood?
Well, in this specific case, the Dev was pleading with the people who have a (legal) copy of the game to NOT share it here.
They were engaging with this site specifically to literally say this is their primary source of income and please don't take that away from them.

Why should this game get special treatment? For most devs whose games are posted here the game is their primary source of income and those games still get pirated. Should this dev be treated differently just because they asked?

>but that should be sufficient to answer your lovely, heartfelt question.

No need to be sarcastic bud.

>Just because you're a pirate doesn't mean you have to be an asshole.

Pirating a game when the dev asks you not to makes you an asshole but pirating it when the dev hasn't asked or said anything doesn't?
 

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I tried to do a cleanup for the red lingerie one, but couldn't get it to work no matter what I did. It doesn't help that my file opens up everything as &lt; and &gt; instead of < > even when opening in notepad++. :(
That's expected to see a lot of those. HTML, Sugarcube/Twine, and other engines all have reserved characters. Escaping them is required to allow it to be passed through the parser/interpreter. Because HTML and Sugarcube/Twine both can extensively use '<', '>', and '&', it requires extensive escaping. You can find HTML decoder websites, if you needed, but they may not work trying to do the entire file all at once.

I didn't look at the rest of the code, as I figured the dev will need to clean it all up at some point on their own. Hopefully sooner than later. My two lines were just stop-gaps to get the quest running. The silfire quest ends "to be continued" shortly after the vibrator quest anyways, so there'll be more coming.

There's a lot of "to be continued" quests from the early in-game days through to the newest days. So there'll be a lot of revisiting. Silfire and Verdiant (spelling? emails you get about Eva) are pretty short at this point.
 

dasflute2

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Happy to see the Yara BBC corruption path developing. Its one of the best in the game.
I haven't played the game in a few updates, going to wait for a few more to have a big chunk saved up, so I'm interested to hear there's a route where you can corrupt Yara out of being a lesbian and into having sex with men. You don't see that very often.
 

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Bug Report: From a new game, I couldn't get the Jasmin/Jerome combo date during springbreak to trigger. I have maxed the relationship with Jasmin and accepted Jerome during springbreak, but the next event with Jasmin does not have the join Jasmin/Jerome option.
 
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I haven't played the game in a few updates, going to wait for a few more to have a big chunk saved up, so I'm interested to hear there's a route where you can corrupt Yara out of being a lesbian and into having sex with men. You don't see that very often.
Whenever you play again you can click on the journal, character info, and Yara's profile. There you can see she has a BBC stat like Jasmin and the MC. It's been building up for the past few updates and seems like next update will be when she finally 'succumbs'.
 
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dasflute2

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Whenever you play again you can click on the journal, character info, and Yara's profile. There you can see she has a BBC stat like Jasmin and the MC. It's been building up for the past few updates and seems like next update will be when she finally 'succumbs'.
Good to know, I'll dive in with the next update in that case, I think!

What's the general route to trigger it? I assume you have to pursue Yara and dom her? Or is it something else?
 

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Good to know, I'll dive in with the next update in that case, I think!

What's the general route to trigger it? I assume you have to pursue Yara and dom her? Or is it something else?
I haven't tried it without domming her, might still be possible. Leading up to it there are various moments where you can lead her down that path, like at the track meets on Thursdays there is one moment where her BBC stat can be raised, or an event where the MC can argue with Yara about her distain for men. There's also a story section where the MC can side with either the women or the black men over a school project bet, if the MC sides with the men and wins the bet Yara and all the other girls have to get fucked by the black men. But this event doesn't seem to get referenced again though, so it's placement is a bit odd.

The main meat of this path comes from the recent spring break section and the latest post spring break update. There you can lock in on a partner or harem, seems like it's building to end game or mutually exclusive paths. If you choose Yara you can start to convince her that Jeremy should be her prom King or tease her about Jeremy in general. Alternatively if you go with the Jeremy and Jasmin harem path, Jeremy asks the MC if he can also pursue Yara. Not sure if the Yara and Jeremy pairing will happen next update since the dates seem to be happening next. But the last update really heavily foreshadowed it.

I'm pretty sure you need to have a high Yara BBC stat for some of these triggers. So the best way to get it is to do all Yara events before the spring break. It worked for me with Yara BBC at 10 points.
 

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Bug report: During the slifire training, when you come to the point where you hate to buy a choker a photo yourself. It doesnt allow you to click that option, even if you bought every single choker in the game. Its stays grey.
 

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I'm not going to respond to every single paragraph because I agree with some of them and others aren't really relevant to the point I'm trying to make.
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>but that should be sufficient to answer your lovely, heartfelt question.

No need to be sarcastic bud.

>Just because you're a pirate doesn't mean you have to be an asshole.

Pirating a game when the dev asks you not to makes you an asshole but pirating it when the dev hasn't asked or said anything doesn't?
Your apparent goal was to demotivate the game developer (from profiting on their game, from interacting with this site, and/or from developing their game.)

My goal was to demotivate you and encourage others to empathize a bit more with game developers.

ETA. regarding de-motivation:
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That's expected to see a lot of those. HTML, Sugarcube/Twine, and other engines all have reserved characters. Escaping them is required to allow it to be passed through the parser/interpreter. Because HTML and Sugarcube/Twine both can extensively use '<', '>', and '&', it requires extensive escaping. You can find HTML decoder websites, if you needed, but they may not work trying to do the entire file all at once.

I didn't look at the rest of the code, as I figured the dev will need to clean it all up at some point on their own. Hopefully sooner than later. My two lines were just stop-gaps to get the quest running. The silfire quest ends "to be continued" shortly after the vibrator quest anyways, so there'll be more coming.

There's a lot of "to be continued" quests from the early in-game days through to the newest days. So there'll be a lot of revisiting. Silfire and Verdiant (spelling? emails you get about Eva) are pretty short at this point.
I looked into this and it turns out its not actually called "redsexy", it should be "redcute".
If you change all instances of "redsexy" to "redcute" it works
 
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TheGodUncle

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Your apparent goal was to demotivate the game developer (from profiting on their game, from interacting with this site, and/or from developing their game.)

My goal was to demotivate you and encourage others to empathize a bit more with game developers.

ETA. regarding de-motivation:
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No, it was a genuine question. Why do you think you know what I'm trying to say better than i do?

I empathize with developers, that's why I try to support them when I can. I just don't think some games/developers should be treated differently than others.
 

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No, it was a genuine question. Why do you think you know what I'm trying to say better than i do?

I empathize with developers, that's why I try to support them when I can. I just don't think some games/developers should be treated differently than others.
Nobody is saying he should be treated differently than others, I don't think it's asking too much to not spam for heroes, specially when we know sooner or later is going to be available anyway bet it here or with any other game really.

At the end of the day Devs are normal people, imagine being a smaller dev who is not exactly making thousands every month and yet you see your thread here being spammed every update asking for a leak, that has to be demotivating...
 
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I looked into this and it turns out its not actually called "redsexy", it should be "redcute".
If you change all instances of "redsexy" to "redcute" it works
There are two sets of red lingerie, based on the gave variables. There is 'redcute' and 'redsexy', so both could be used, yes. In the image below, number 1 is 'redsexy' and number 2 is 'redcute'.

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I went with 'redsexy' as it's the one that matches what is requested in the text message the MC is sent. The two images are 'images/clothes/sexy red thong.jpg' and 'images/clothes/sexy red bra.jpg', which match the 'redsexy' lingerie.

Any of the underwear sets can be made to work, but if you want the actually requested one, then the easy fix it to replace line 45247 with this, and it'll use the 'redsexy' lingerie. If you want the else statement properly nested, keep the leading spaces.

JavaScript:
    &lt;&lt;else&gt;&gt;&lt;&lt;if $panties.has(&quot;redsexy&quot;) and $bra.has(&quot;redsexy&quot;)&gt;&gt;&lt;&lt;link &quot;Model the lingerie I am wearing&quot;&gt;&gt;&lt;&lt;add &quot;goodgirl&quot; 1&gt;&gt;&lt;&lt;add &quot;open&quot; 1&gt;&gt;&lt;&lt;pickup $mail &quot;Slifire Mission 7 Option 1&quot; 1&gt;&gt;&lt;&lt;pickup $mail &quot;Slifire Mission 7 Choice&quot; 1&gt;&gt;&lt;&lt;script&gt;&gt;
$panties refers to sugarcube.state.variables.panties
$bra refers to sugarcube.state.variables.bra

When an underwear set is worn, it put the appropriate reference into the $bra and $panties variables.
When an underwear set is bought, the reference 'redsexy', 'redcute', etc., is added to the $wardrobe (sugarcube.state.variables.wardrobe) list.
 

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I'm stuck at Eric 50(Go to sleep) and Eva 60(go to her house house on saturday evening) but the options dont show up, does anyone know how to get past them?
 
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Killer94

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The harem route is just about Yara and Eva for now. If you want to choose it you need to have selected the Join Eva and Yara option during the beach visit just before the truth or dare game.
oh god damm it i fucked up then cuz i chose to spy on angela :( anywho thx for the reply i appreciate it
 
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cheats are super wonky some of things i edit work and other times no anyone else having this issue
 
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