L7Bear
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Oh, I think I can answer that one!This is a piracy forum. All of the games on here are people's livelihoods. Why engage with the site if it threatens your livelihood?
I've never been a game developer, per se, but I wrote for several adult games from 2018 until 2023 (most of my writing was for one game series from 2019 to 2023.) Since I've been out of the business for over a year I should be able to talk freely about this without causing anyone trouble.
Pirate sites (with F95 being the most popular, in my experience) are a double-edged sword.
On the one hand, it's "free" advertising. On the other hand, it's "stolen" content.
Wait, that last one shouldn't be in quotes for most AVNs. While a few post their own games to F95 (especially the free/public first version or two), most find their games getting posted here without their consent. It is stolen content.
However, these are small teams (or even solo projects) who can't afford the fancy DRM that the big studios used.
I say used, because most big publishers have even learned that draconian DRM and anti-piracy measures inevitably screw up and piss off paying customers.
So, you either work with the pirates, or you go out of business.
Yay! Piracy!
But, like I said, it's a double edged sword. There are some benefits to piracy.
Most of the pirates would never buy the game anyway, so that isn't really lost income.
Some of us pirates will reward good games by purchasing them on Steam, donating to their Patreon, or otherwise trying to support the developers. (Alas, too few of us, and most of us don't have the $$$ to support as many or as much as we would like.)
But piracy increases word-of-mouth, so some people will be like "What's this AVN my friends keep talking about?" and do it the right way - buying the game &/or donating to the dev to legally download the game.
But, let's go back to your question. Why engage with a piracy site if it threatens their livelihood?
Well, in this specific case, the Dev was pleading with the people who have a (legal) copy of the game to NOT share it here.
They were engaging with this site specifically to literally say this is their primary source of income and please don't take that away from them.
If you look at their stats (currently 863rd on Adult Games Rank, and over 10k on overall patreon rank) they aren't making a ton of money off this game. This isn't one of the lucky few pulling down over $50k/mo and getting kinda rich. They're currently making about $9.94 per hour (if you assume it's only 40 hours per week) and I'm not sure if that is for a single person or a team of people... before taxes, etc.
So, yeah. It makes sense that they would want to come to this pirate site and ask people not to pirate their game.
However, this is also a forum where people discuss their game, give feedback, report bugs, and such. People rarely post that on patreon, discord, etc. At least not in my experience. So, any smart dev is unfortunately going to want to look at this site and the comments.
I hope that clarifies things a bit for you (and anyone else reading.) I could go on - there's a LOT more to this than I've touched on above - but that should be sufficient to answer your lovely, heartfelt question.
TLDR: Just because you're a pirate doesn't mean you have to be an asshole.