Ren'Py Onhold Behind the Doom [v0.8] [UnrulyAction]

[DJbustnut]

If you're referring to the New Version 0.8. I dought that its playable, if anyone has managed to have the full save with all the scenes hopefully someone will share it.

It's not whenever I redownload this I always do 0.7

 

[Nameless One]

I just read through the thread a bit....

 

[BlitzWulf]

i think someone could pick up this game and work on it if they wanted to

 

[newspaperkind69]

isnt dat disrespect to the original creator?

 

[EroDev]

Funnily enough I was debating that same thing. Tl:dr I actually already did pick this game up and continue it.

I found this game a couple of months ago, in v0.8. It's an interesting project, I like the art style, and I was looking forward to seeing where it'd go in the next release. Since 0.8 wasn't very stable I decided to just fix all the bugs I was seeing while I waited. That then turned into re-adding the content I realised had been hidden/removed from 0.7.

It was a fun side project but once I saw the creator had not only stopped working on it but deleted all their accounts, I decided to just flesh out what I wanted from the game myself - i.e. finishing up the character stories, filling out the plot, more scenes, more choices... Ended up just rewriting the entire code from scratch and recreating the content I liked, filling out the rest.
It got to a point in the last few days where as said, I was debating that same thing - is it now worth sharing/devoting proper time to?
If it was an active project I absolutely wouldn't do it or share it with anyone else (I know I'd find it disrespectful if someone posted a rewritten version of a game I made without at the very least asking me, especially if they'd changed lots), but if the game is abandoned and there is no way to contact the creator, is it different? Both ethically, and in terms of the upload rules.
I've erred on the side of "Best not".

 

[L00kingFor]

Funnily enough I was debating that same thing. Tl:dr I actually already did pick this game up and continue it.

I found this game a couple of months ago, in v0.8. It's an interesting project, I like the art style, and I was looking forward to seeing where it'd go in the next release. Since 0.8 wasn't very stable I decided to just fix all the bugs I was seeing while I waited. That then turned into re-adding the content I realised had been hidden/removed from 0.7.

It was a fun side project but once I saw the creator had not only stopped working on it but deleted all their accounts, I decided to just flesh out what I wanted from the game myself - i.e. finishing up the character stories, filling out the plot, more scenes, more choices... Ended up just rewriting the entire code from scratch and recreating the content I liked, filling out the rest.
It got to a point in the last few days where as said, I was debating that same thing - is it now worth sharing/devoting proper time to?
If it was an active project I absolutely wouldn't do it or share it with anyone else (I know I'd find it disrespectful if someone posted a rewritten version of a game I made without at the very least asking me, especially if they'd changed lots), but if the game is abandoned and there is no way to contact the creator, is it different? Both ethically, and in terms of the upload rules.
I've erred on the side of "Best not".

Maybe the project could be continued with a disclaimer stating that it's an 'unofficial' continuation? That way, people interested in the game can still experience it while properly acknowledging the original work.

 

[Mishanya1004]

Funnily enough I was debating that same thing. Tl:dr I actually already did pick this game up and continue it.

I found this game a couple of months ago, in v0.8. It's an interesting project, I like the art style, and I was looking forward to seeing where it'd go in the next release. Since 0.8 wasn't very stable I decided to just fix all the bugs I was seeing while I waited. That then turned into re-adding the content I realised had been hidden/removed from 0.7.

It was a fun side project but once I saw the creator had not only stopped working on it but deleted all their accounts, I decided to just flesh out what I wanted from the game myself - i.e. finishing up the character stories, filling out the plot, more scenes, more choices... Ended up just rewriting the entire code from scratch and recreating the content I liked, filling out the rest.
It got to a point in the last few days where as said, I was debating that same thing - is it now worth sharing/devoting proper time to?
If it was an active project I absolutely wouldn't do it or share it with anyone else (I know I'd find it disrespectful if someone posted a rewritten version of a game I made without at the very least asking me, especially if they'd changed lots), but if the game is abandoned and there is no way to contact the creator, is it different? Both ethically, and in terms of the upload rules.
I've erred on the side of "Best not".

Honestly, you could just as easily either add a disclaimer saying that this isn't official, and that it is done with all respect to the original developer.

At this point in time I doubt he's ever gonna come back to the actual community, so if you do your due diligence and show the proper respect - no harm, no foul. I'd certainly want to play it.

 

[MkUltSmash]

Funnily enough I was debating that same thing. Tl:dr I actually already did pick this game up and continue it.

I found this game a couple of months ago, in v0.8. It's an interesting project, I like the art style, and I was looking forward to seeing where it'd go in the next release. Since 0.8 wasn't very stable I decided to just fix all the bugs I was seeing while I waited. That then turned into re-adding the content I realised had been hidden/removed from 0.7.

It was a fun side project but once I saw the creator had not only stopped working on it but deleted all their accounts, I decided to just flesh out what I wanted from the game myself - i.e. finishing up the character stories, filling out the plot, more scenes, more choices... Ended up just rewriting the entire code from scratch and recreating the content I liked, filling out the rest.
It got to a point in the last few days where as said, I was debating that same thing - is it now worth sharing/devoting proper time to?
If it was an active project I absolutely wouldn't do it or share it with anyone else (I know I'd find it disrespectful if someone posted a rewritten version of a game I made without at the very least asking me, especially if they'd changed lots), but if the game is abandoned and there is no way to contact the creator, is it different? Both ethically, and in terms of the upload rules.
I've erred on the side of "Best not".

id consider this more closer to a mod than you taking over the entirety of the IP.

also id consider it a mod id love to try out someday

 

[AlecHolland]

Funnily enough I was debating that same thing. Tl:dr I actually already did pick this game up and continue it.

I found this game a couple of months ago, in v0.8. It's an interesting project, I like the art style, and I was looking forward to seeing where it'd go in the next release. Since 0.8 wasn't very stable I decided to just fix all the bugs I was seeing while I waited. That then turned into re-adding the content I realised had been hidden/removed from 0.7.

It was a fun side project but once I saw the creator had not only stopped working on it but deleted all their accounts, I decided to just flesh out what I wanted from the game myself - i.e. finishing up the character stories, filling out the plot, more scenes, more choices... Ended up just rewriting the entire code from scratch and recreating the content I liked, filling out the rest.
It got to a point in the last few days where as said, I was debating that same thing - is it now worth sharing/devoting proper time to?
If it was an active project I absolutely wouldn't do it or share it with anyone else (I know I'd find it disrespectful if someone posted a rewritten version of a game I made without at the very least asking me, especially if they'd changed lots), but if the game is abandoned and there is no way to contact the creator, is it different? Both ethically, and in terms of the upload rules.
I've erred on the side of "Best not".

Wait a sec, you fixed all the bugs? Why don't you share the copy then? It would greatly help.

 

[EroDev]

I'd be open to doing it if it's allowed and there is interest in it. I've taken another look at the rules and the "Game Uploading Section 6" implies it's okay (it'd fall under the remakes part). Though the examples I found were all done with permission, or filled with comments slagging off the uploader for doing it without permission....
I'm a coder, not an artist, so I'm limited to re-using/re-purposing the art that was already there. Without being able to add new art there is only so far I can take it.

As for the bug fixes - I rewrote the project from scratch. Only a few fixes were actually made in the original project code before I decided to do so. I'm afraid I don't have a "fixed" version of v0.8 to share.

 

[FearlessBOB]

I'd be open to doing it if it's allowed and there is interest in it. I've taken another look at the rules and the "Game Uploading Section 6" implies it's okay (it'd fall under the remakes part). Though the examples I found were all done with permission, or filled with comments slagging off the uploader for doing it without permission....
I'm a coder, not an artist, so I'm limited to re-using/re-purposing the art that was already there. Without being able to add new art there is only so far I can take it.

As for the bug fixes - I rewrote the project from scratch. Only a few fixes were actually made in the original project code before I decided to do so. I'm afraid I don't have a "fixed" version of v0.8 to share.

You could start a new thread, called "fan remake" whatever and just link the thread here... Dunno if it's allowed, but plenty of 'Big Brother' remakes did it like that, and they're still there.

Just a thought.

 

[TheVanderell]

I'm already developing a game, but I would be open to the idea of creating a discord server to make a fan remake, I have some basic skills of coding, drawing/editing images and writing. If someone is interested DM me and we can start working

 

[EroDev]

You could start a new thread, called "fan remake" whatever and just link the thread here... Dunno if it's allowed, but plenty of 'Big Brother' remakes did it like that, and they're still there.

Just a thought.

Yep good suggestion. I have a fair bit of tidying up I'd want to do first (very different standard of polish in something just for me vs something I'd want to share), so will probably spend a couple of weeks doing that and then see where everything's at.

 

[elstupidwolf]

Honestly as long as it's not claiming to be the original dev I don't think it's disrespectul.
The good thing would be to clean up 0.8 because the pictures are here but it's just not working properly (as expected)

 

[EroDev]

Well it's been a couple of weeks, so for an update:
I've been focusing on getting all of the content available in 0.8 into the project while polishing it all up. I've done that, mostly. The scenes are there, and you can view them all in the scene gallery even if the character routes aren't complete. So "0.8 without the bugs" is technically done.
But I wouldn't be sharing it if I hadn't given an arbitrary deadline of "a couple of weeks". There's a lot more I want to do. Bare minimum I'd like to fully complete the plot lines for Captain Marvel, Black Widow and Yelena, and I'm trying to make the affection / submission options meaningful, so it's taking a while. I've significantly slowed down the progression so each character takes longer and I am trying to avoid falling into the SU trap of each one feeling similar/having the same steps to get through.

I've changed quite a few things about the overall story and I am also working on the pre-0.8 characters. I would like what I share to be an enjoyable and substantial release in its own right rather than just a non-buggy scene gallery for 0.8. I said a couple of weeks as I'm quite busy for the next few and knew I wouldn't have much time for it, but now I'm focused I'm really getting into it and I'd rather share something I'm proud of.
So I'm not going to set another arbitrary deadline. I'm going to chip away at it whenever I can until I feel its in a great place. If I feel that isn't working then I'll pick a deadline to give myself a kick.

I may post updates if people are interested: do feel free to make suggestions/requests, I'm of course curious if there are things people generally want changed/unchanged etc. For example I dropped the JRPG style combat missions from 0.8 (I have strong opinions on the JRPG combat so many renpy games try to implement) and expanded the covert mission deployments to cover all missions instead. This was a personal preference as I liked the latter more. But if everyone loved that and will be disappointed with it gone, I'll bear that in mind.
Outside that at some point I'll hopefully post a new thread with a first pass release uploaded.

Added a few screenshots for anyone curious about how this version looks.

 

[rfacure]

Well it's been a couple of weeks, so for an update:
I've been focusing on getting all of the content available in 0.8 into the project while polishing it all up. I've done that, mostly. The scenes are there, and you can view them all in the scene gallery even if the character routes aren't complete. So "0.8 without the bugs" is technically done.
But I wouldn't be sharing it if I hadn't given an arbitrary deadline of "a couple of weeks". There's a lot more I want to do. Bare minimum I'd like to fully complete the plot lines for Captain Marvel, Black Widow and Yelena, and I'm trying to make the affection / submission options meaningful, so it's taking a while. I've significantly slowed down the progression so each character takes longer and I am trying to avoid falling into the SU trap of each one feeling similar/having the same steps to get through.

I've changed quite a few things about the overall story and I am also working on the pre-0.8 characters. I would like what I share to be an enjoyable and substantial release in its own right rather than just a non-buggy scene gallery for 0.8. I said a couple of weeks as I'm quite busy for the next few and knew I wouldn't have much time for it, but now I'm focused I'm really getting into it and I'd rather share something I'm proud of.
So I'm not going to set another arbitrary deadline. I'm going to chip away at it whenever I can until I feel its in a great place. If I feel that isn't working then I'll pick a deadline to give myself a kick.

I may post updates if people are interested: do feel free to make suggestions/requests, I'm of course curious if there are things people generally want changed/unchanged etc. For example I dropped the JRPG style combat missions from 0.8 (I have strong opinions on the JRPG combat so many renpy games try to implement) and expanded the covert mission deployments to cover all missions instead. This was a personal preference as I liked the latter more. But if everyone loved that and will be disappointed with it gone, I'll bear that in mind.
Outside that at some point I'll hopefully post a new thread with a first pass release uploaded.

Added a few screenshots for anyone curious about how this version looks.

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Amazing work! A shame that you can't create more art and truly keep the game going without the original creator. I don't know if people cared to open the game files, but there's a lot of base assets of new heroines (like rogue/Alexandra daddario, jean grey and etc..) for future updates.

 

[newspaperkind69]

Amazing work! A shame that you can't create more art and truly keep the game going without the original creator. I don't know if people cared to open the game files, but there's a lot of base assets of new heroines (like rogue/Alexandra daddario, jean grey and etc..) for future updates.

can u post images of rogue from gamefiles?? i didnt knw abt dis until now, i dont have the game isntalled anymore

 

[MetagrossShiny.98]

Amazing work! A shame that you can't create more art and truly keep the game going without the original creator. I don't know if people cared to open the game files, but there's a lot of base assets of new heroines (like rogue/Alexandra daddario, jean grey and etc..) for future updates.

Couldn't the game continue using AI art?

 

[DJbustnut]

Couldn't the game continue using AI art?

Hell no

 

[Richh123]

AI Art is Good is some instances not all.